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KP government allocates Rs.139 billion for education

Na u didnt get my meaning, im asking whether are suggesting colleges like the west where they offer undergraduate programs or r u talking about inter level colleges...
this Pakistani coined term "inter level colleges" is an educational hoax to be precise. Call em high schools and then comes college/univerity level------- but why are yuu so interested in the semantics and not arguing about the actual stuff ?
 
this Pakistani coined term "inter level colleges" is an educational hoax to be precise. Call em high schools and then comes college/univerity level------- but why are yuu so interested in the semantics and not arguing about the actual stuff ?
I wanted to make sure what u were actually proposing before going any further, its always best to clear things up first.
Now coming to ur proposal i think its immature(no offence) and is the textbook eastern response to issues which instead of targetting the problem actually multiplies it. Consider a simple agricultural buisiness model for instance , ur yearly yield of crops is suffering due to bad management and outdated techniques, you dont go around planting more crops on a larger scale the next time but improve ur yield by taking on new methods, better quality seeds, equipment and management.
Education is the same as is the core of the establishment of any succesful national network or enterprise etc.
We need to invest heavily to improve the facilities we already have, we need to invest a lot more into training professors and teachers, we need new modern techniques and approaches to education, we need introduction of basic recreational facilities initially, we need more scholarship programme's to aid those who cant afford higher studies, building up on that we can slowly raise the "standard of education" in pakistan.
We dont need more of the same junk, we need a better quality output hence due to lack of funds we need to set our priorites right and focus more on output right now rather than expanding. We already are producing doctors and engineers faster, much much faster than we could employ them and believe me due to the unplanned, unregulated expansion of institutues the quality factor is fast plummeting.
The fact of the matter is that we need to invest heavily to first repair and than upgrade extensively the level and standard of education we offer here coupled with a lot better facilities to mould a student into something worthwhile, just putting up more schools and colleges would not solve anything, hell u can have colleges etc at every street corner and still we would lag centuries behind the developed world in education.
After we have upgraded the existing education network and mangement system here than we can think about expanding on the same new standards that we would've set for ourselves, this is what would kill the cancer, this is what is needed, it would be a slow process yet will pay in the long term, no short cuts in life pal, nations that invested in quality back then are now reaping the benefits.
Our politicians usually avoid this approach because they like to cut "feetas" and pose for pictures, nothing pleases the stupid masses more than new buildings, there are a thousand fold more opportunities for corruption by initiating new projects that start to decay in a year. We need people who plan beyond thier 5 year tenure, we need people who plan for decades into the future.
Ps. Learn to take pride and respect the local coined terms among other things, it would do wonders for ur self respect, people in germany stick to the term university while in canada it is refered to as school n if u say university people give u wierd looks, its the different for every country so no need to mock everything pakistani...
 
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I wanted to make sure what u were actually proposing before going any further, its always best to clear things up first:-).
Now coming to ur proposal i think its immature(no offence) and is the textbook eastern response to issues which instead of targetting the problem actually multiplies it. Consider a simple agricultural buisiness model for instance , ur yearly yield of crops is suffering due to bad management and outdated techniques, you dont go around planting more crops on a larger scale the next time but improve ur yield by taking on new methods, better quality seeds, equipment and management.
Education is the same as is the core of the establishment of any succesful national network or enterprise etc.
We need to invest heavily to improve the facilities we already have, we need to invest a lot more into training professors and teachers, we need new modern techniques and approaches to education, we need introduction of basic recreational facilities initially, we need more scholarship programme's to aid those who cant afford higher studies, building up on that we can slowly raise the "standard of education" in pakistan.
We dont need more of the same junk, we need a better quality output hence due to lack of funds we need to set our priorites right and focus more on output right now rather than expanding. We already are producing doctors and engineers faster, much much faster than we could employ them and believe me due to the unplanned, unregulated expansion of institutues the quality factor is fast plummeting.
The fact of the matter is that we need to invest heavily to first repair and than upgrade extensively the level and standard of education we offer here coupled with a lot better facilities to mould a student into something worthwhile, just putting up more schools and colleges would not solve anything, hell u can have colleges etc at every street corner and still we would lag centuries behind the developed world in education.
After we have upgraded the existing education network and mangement system here than we can think about expanding on the same new standards that we would've set for ourselves, this is what would kill the cancer, this is what is needed, it would be a slow process yet will pay in the long term, no short cuts in life pal, nations that invested in quality back then are now reaping the benefits.
Our politicians usually avoid this approach because they like to cut "feetas" and pose for pictures, nothing pleases the stupid masses more than new buildings, there are a thousand fold more opportunities for corruption by initiating new projects that start to decay in a year. We need people who plan beyond thier 5 year tenure, we need people who plan for decades into the future.
Ps. Learn to take pride and respect the local coined terms among other things, it would do wonders for ur self respect, people in germany stick to the term university while in canada it is refered to as school n if u say university people give u wierd looks, its the different for every country so no need to mock everything pakistani...
my emphasis was on getting more doctors n engineering as we are already running out of em. So to address the future medical and industrial related issues we need em in numbers . Let's forget abiut their professional services for the nation. Do you know how much remittances we'd be receiving if they make it to the foreign countries?
 
my emphasis was on getting more doctors n engineering as we are already running out of em. So to address the future medical and industrial related issues we need em in numbers . Let's forget abiut their professional services for the nation. Do you know how much remittances we'd be receiving if they make it to the foreign countries?
As is told u we already have too many and dont knw what to do with them yet their quality is dobious, i knw the statistics, i have doctors in my immediate family. Recently the punjab govt to adress this issue introduced some commendable reforms making it much more difficult to pass fcps yet it still doesnt tackle the issue of quality at uni level and do u knw that we recieved seveal complaints from eurpeon countries about the quality of doctors sent, they emphisized that we need to upgrade their quality, how soon before they start preferring doctors from other nearby fast progressing nations and black list us, it would and is hurting us on the remittances front too. U have a valid point concerning growing demand due to the upcoming industrial revolution due to cpec but as i said we are already producing too many, its not like im saying we should totally wrap up setting uo new colleges, its a gradual process and a succesful state multifunctions on various fronts but priority should be given and the majority of funds spent on upgradation of quality for now, it will pay of in the future heavily..
 
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As is told u we already have too many and dont knw what to do with them yet their quality is dobious, i knw the statistics, i have doctors in my immediate family. Recently the punjab govt to adress this issue introduced some commendable reforms making it much more difficult to pass fcps yet it still doesnt tackle the issue of quality at uni level and do u knw that we recieved seveal complaints from eurpeon countries about the quality of doctors sent, they emphisized that we need to upgrade their quality, how soon before they start preferring doctors from other nearby fast progressing nations and black list us, it would and is hurting us on the remittances front too.
alright then exhaust their skills domestically . Rate gir Jyga n competition would increase.
 
alright then exhaust their skills domestically . Rate gir Jyga n competition would increase.
Improving their quality would make foriegn countries pursue or prefer them more hence they would've better opportunities abroad, how is raising their quality connected with domestic employment?? n with growth of economy and industrial base rate giry ga nhn char jae ga...p.s there are a million other fields worth pursuing but every obedient boy or girl is coaxed by their parents to pursue medicine n engineering, its not everyones cup of tea..
 
Improving their quality would make foriegn countries pursue or prefer them more hence they would've better opportunities abroad,

that's what I also meant . No compromise on the quality ----

how is raising their quality connected with domestic employment??

Mareez marnay Hain :o:

...p.s there are a million other fields worth pursuing but every obedient boy or girl is coaxed by their parents to pursue medicine n engineering, its not everyones cup of tea..
so true :sick: now may I go to sleep?:drag:
 
What the nation should understand that Education literally does not translate into being engineers or doctors or mba.
We have a very narrow scope when it comes to understanding education or a profession. the problem is more social in nature than technical.

Pakistan has a consumer drive policy and very little is produced within Pakistan, if we are loading up on Engineers we must find enough opportunities for them to practice their profession.

It is the sheer amount of confusion and the divide in the society has reached a tipping point. The rulers have become disconnected with the ground reality on a bigger scale which will prove to be their undoing.
 
College or universities?

degree institute for "engineering" is generally called as university (sometime's institute), while incase of Medical it's often called college.

Name doesn't matter.

After 4 plus years?what were the KP Gov doing before? sowing money?:shout:

it's not the first time in 4 year's that KP have allocated education budget, Genius. This year they have allocated 139 billion, for previous 3 year's budget data, try Google.
 
degree institute for "engineering" is generally called as university (sometime's institute), while incase of Medical it's often called college.

Name doesn't matter.



it's not the first time in 4 year's that KP have allocated education budget, Genius. This year they have allocated 139 billion, for previous 3 year's budget data, try Google.
I knw, i was merely inquiring whether he was refering to intercolleges or uni cause what i had to say to him depended on it....
 
degree institute for "engineering" is generally called as university (sometime's institute), while incase of Medical it's often called college.

Name doesn't matter.



it's not the first time in 4 year's that KP have allocated education budget, Genius. This year they have allocated 139 billion, for previous 3 year's budget data, try Google.
Allocatting and Applying both are two different things mate and I know how do both work if and when done.btw I dont like NS Gov but KP gov bhi koi doodh aur shehad ki nehren nahi baha rahi.KP has hardly changed in terms of education.
 

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