Killing of Democracy in America

[LetsGetRowdy]

democracy never existed in united states. from the very start it was always a 2-party-1-system state that represented the multi-national corporations. presidential candidates are already chosen beforehand; you want person A or person B? doesn't matter because they both work for us.

 

[VCheng]

............at least american govt pays lip servise to democracy you dont even do that....................

I only tell it like it is, fairly and squarely. Always.

 

[lem34]

If democracy is about corruption then non-democratic countries should be the most virtuous and filled with benevolent dictators. And yet what do we consistently see year after year on the corruption index.

Your on thin ground and you know it american leaders dare not speak up against aipac its taboo, you will be called antisemitic if you dare to bring it up.

A small group percentage of american jews have taken over the american regime by using money simple really.

 

[gambit]

democracy never existed in united states. from the very start it was always a 2-party-1-system state that represented the multi-national corporations.

This tells me you do not understand even the basics of democratic principles. So tell us...How corruption free are China and Viet Nam?

 

[gubbi]

Today, Israel is the only country in the world that mainstream U.S. politicians (and most members of the foreign-policy establishment) cannot openly criticize. It is the only country in the world that U.S. presidents cannot pressure in any meaningful way.

BS. The fact that Iran is till pursuing its nuclear ambitions without a repeat of Operation Babylon, even when the Arab world is secretly imploring Israel to do so, shows how much US influences Israel.

You people only read/follow conspiracy theories which whet your delusional appetites.

 

[lem34]

democracy never existed in united states. from the very start it was always a 2-party-1-system state that represented the multi-national corporations.

Both parties take instruction from Tel Aviv lol

 

[gambit]

Your on thin ground and you know it american leaders dare not speak up against aipac its taboo, you will be called antisemitic if you dare to bring it up.

A small group percentage of american jews have taken over the american regime by using money simple really.

Pakistan ranks pretty low on the Corruption Perception Index, buddy. That mean Pakistan must be awfully 'democratic'.

 

[lem34]

Pakistan ranks pretty low on the Corruption Perception Index, buddy. That mean Pakistan must be awfully 'democratic'.

Gambut you have been on this forum for about two and a half years you have done over 8000 posts do you not know the rules in the forum? You are off topic we are not talking about corruption in pakistan. If you wish to talk about these topics you are welcome to go to those threads. pakistani issues and problems are well known and have been discussed many times. Pakistanis do not claim the high moral ground like your govt does. You can not obviate the shortcomings in america and your system by using pakistan or any other nation in mitigation. American govt claims to be a democracy. But thats all it is its just a claim. A small percentage of jews formed under AIPAC have created a strong disciplined group who pay large amounts of money to politicans to help them get elected. without advertising and spending large amounts of money it is very difficult if at all to get elected in america. Your political leaders of both parties are beholden and owe favours to their funders and hence Anerican govts policy is dictated indirectly by tel aviv to the detrement of the american nation and people. No matter what you say you can not get away from that. get off your computer what do you gain by slagging pakistan and its people off its an unhealthy practice and you are creating more people who dislike you.

 

[VCheng]

.................. what do you gain by slagging pakistan and its people off its an unhealthy practice and you are creating more people who dislike you.

To be fair, let's ask the same question the other way too; what is being gained by demonizing USA incessantly, except cementing the bad impression already created of Pakistanis succumbing to increasing radicalism? No good can come of it either.

We need to be build bridges of understanding if we are to benefit Pakistan.

 

[lem34]

To be fair, let's ask the same question the other way too; what is being gained by demonizing USA incessantly, except cementing the bad impression already created of Pakistanis succumbing to increasing radicalism? No good can come of it either.

We need to be build bridges of understanding if we are to benefit Pakistan.

The more people we bring this to the attention of the more likely injustice will be defeated thats the way we have been bought up ie not to accept injustice or abuse of the disenfranchised in the world. I give voice to those poor souls who are suffering injustice whether they be palestinian afghani children etc

wouldnt it be great that some americans read this and a lightbulb gos on in their head and they join the many movements in america who are trying to retake their country from a select minority who do not represent americans generally

 

[Donatello]

To be fair, let's ask the same question the other way too; what is being gained by demonizing USA incessantly, except cementing the bad impression already created of Pakistanis succumbing to increasing radicalism? No good can come of it either.

We need to be build bridges of understanding if we are to benefit Pakistan.

The building of the bridges takes place with both the sides working together....not with the dual face policy that America is currently pursuing.

Remember this is the exact kind of policy that took Iran from being their best allies to their worst enemies.

 

[VCheng]

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wouldnt it be great that some americans read this and a lightbulb gos on in their head and ......................

...................... and that lightbulb further hardens the resolve to make sure that these rabid and unjustified tirades never succeed.

Please be aware of this aspect too.

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The building of the bridges takes place with both the sides working together..............

Yes, I have been saying that all along.

Please remember that being unnecessarily confrontational harms the weaker party far more than the stronger party.

 

[lem34]

Cheng as I said on another thread your posts here are posted as if you think facts are an optional extra to be employed when it suits you

It is a fact that a small group in america not repesentative of america control the american regime. Why do you want to live in denial.

If you want to accept a world of injustice thats a matter for you but dont tell us to be silent in a world where the superpower in this world has had its democracy subverted

 

[TheJewverine]

This forum amazes me, it is quite fascinating how Israel can be so "weak" and tiny based on the comments here and yet at the same time it is directly controlling everything the most powerful nations in the world are doing. Pretty amazing stuff, must be something in the Matzo crackers we eat? Or maybe it is the bagels and lox?

 

[VCheng]

..................but dont tell us to be silent in a world where the superpower in this world has had its democracy subverted

I would never object to any one expressing their points of view. Please do carry on, as I shall too.

US democracy may be far from ideal, but it is still one of the best systems out there, with proven and evident results. Criticize it all you want, but please know that any alternatives presently practiced are even worse.