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Kashmir: India’s Afghanistan

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WHEN the history of modern India is written, it is likely to record that the imperial ambitions of Hindu India died in Kashmir. Afghanistan is justifiably known as the ‘graveyard of empires’. After 19 years, the US is still fighting its longest war there.

India’s war in occupied Jammu & Kashmir is over 70 years long. It has been fought by an occupation force of 700,000, seven times the maximum number of troops deployed at any time by the Soviet Union or US-Nato in Afghanistan. The Kashmir war will end only when New Delhi realises that it cannot break the will of the Kashmiri people and that it is doing grievous damage to the Indian state.

This future is visible now.

First, the illegality of India’s occupation of Kashmir is being widely acknowledged.

The Security Council and the UN secretary general have again reaffirmed the UN resolutions requiring a plebiscite in Kashmir. India’s position violates these resolutions.

Read: UN chief calls for 'maximum restraint' in occupied Kashmir

The Kashmiri Muslims will vigorously oppose being transformed into a minority in their homeland.

Article 370 of the Indian constitution was supposed to encapsulate the terms under which the Maharaja of Kashmir was supposed to have acceded to India. By removing this article, India has eliminated the only legal argument it had itself advanced to justify its claim to Jammu & Kashmir. By its own legal yardstick, therefore, there now is naked occupation.

Second, the Modi government has closed all doors to a peaceful and negotiated resolution of the dispute. It has rejected a bilateral dialogue with Pakistan as well as third-party mediation. Following its Aug 5 unilateral actions, India says there is nothing to negotiate with Pakistan except the “return” of “Azad Kashmir” to India.

Nor does the Indian government contemplate a negotiated relationship with the Kashmiris. They will be now ruled directly by Delhi’s proconsuls. India has clearly opted for a military solution. The Kashmiri Muslims face an existential threat. They will vigorously oppose being transformed into a minority in their homeland by Hindu colonists. They have no choice but to intensify their freedom struggle.

The BJP’s fascist plan to impose a ‘final solution’ by changing Kashmir’s demographic composition will result in serious violations of human rights and humanitarian laws and could lead to a genocide in occupied Kashmir.

Responsibility for mass murder and genocide by ‘Hitler’s Hindus’ will turn India into an international pariah, tear apart its social fabric, and erode its ability to cling on to Kashmir.

Third, India’s arrogance and hostility, the Hindutva racism and the visible suffering being imposed on the Kashmiri people have transformed Pakistan from a fearful friend into a bold ally of the Kashmiri freedom struggle.

Kashmir has been again proclaimed as a core issue for Pakistan. The BJP’s actions have radically diminished the hope within Pakistan that relations with India can be normalised and the Jammu & Kashmir dispute resolved through negotiations.

India’ latest clampdown and anticipated crackdown of the Kashmiri uprising will create considerable domestic pressure on the Pakistani government to actively support the Kashmiri freedom struggle. Such assistance would be entirely legitimate.

The principle of a plebiscite prescribed in Security Council resolution 47 (1948) and subsequent resolutions reflects the legal recognition of the right to self-determination of the people of Jammu & Kashmir. The UN General Assembly, in Resolution 2649 (1970), and several subsequent resolutions, has repeatedly affirmed the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples under colonial and alien domination, “recognised as being entitled to the right of self-determination”, to “restore to themselves that right by any means at their disposal, including armed struggle”. These resolutions, furthermore, also recognise the right of such peoples “to seek and receive all kinds of moral and material assistance” in the “legitimate exercise of their right to self-determination”.

Whether Pakistan does or does not assist the Kashmiri freedom struggle, India is likely to accuse Pakistan of ‘cross-border terrorism’ and threaten the use of force and even resort to aerial strikes on and/or military incursions.

The world is fully aware that a Pakistan-India conflict could turn into a disastrous war with an inherent nuclear dimension. To avoid this, the members of the Security Council, other states and international institutions, are likely to resort to preventive measures.

The major powers and the UN will make efforts to convince India to reverse its course and engage in a credible peace process with Pakistan and the Kashmiri people.

But Modi is drunk with power. He and his RSS coterie (Amit Shah, Ajit Doval et al), are convinced that oppression of the Kashmiris and aggression towards Pakistan is a winning strategy within India. They will probably spurn the calls for restraint and dialogue.

The temptation for the international community then may be to take the “easier” route of coercing Pakistan to refrain from assisting the Kashmiri freedom struggle and accept India’s imposed “realities” in occupied Jammu & Kashmir.

However, unlike preceding governments, the present Pakistani leadership will not succumb to such coercion.

There is a growing sense in Islamabad that the BJP’s heavy-handed strategy is likely to backfire, sparking a major indigenous Kashmiri insurgency which will be difficult to defeat. If India resorts to the threat or use of force, there is renewed confidence in Pakistan that it can neutralise New Delhi, if necessary, by recourse to credible nuclear deterrence.


India’s prolonged occupation of Kashmir is likely to turn into an Afghan-like quagmire. It will corrode morale in India’s armed forces, divide its polity and erode its economy. Like the colonial powers of the past, India will ultimately lose the debilitating war against a determined popular insurgency.

Read: India eases some curbs in occupied Kashmir

It may take another 10 or even 20 years. But the heroic people of Kashmir, much like the famed Hindu Kush, will eventually bury the imperial dreams of Hindu India.

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The writer is a former Pakistan ambassador to the UN.

Published in Dawn, August 18th, 2019

 
Food for thought:

Few differences between kashmir valley & afganistan
  • kashmir valley area is much smaller
  • kashmir valley is surrounded by thick layer of border defense forces
  • Unlike Russia and USA ... India can absorb attrition against practically any foe due to large population which is mostly young
  • Indian armed forces already fighting insurgency in valley from past 30 years now, India has seen Afgans/Talibs/Uzbeks/Pashtuns/Panjabis/Pakistanis/Local insurgents.
  • Indian armed forces already fighting insurgency in jungle environment in north east/Maoists from past 60 odd years now
  • Huge number of para military is now mostly battle hardened in local insurgencies freeing Indian regular military.
  • Indian economy is mostly based on local consumption so as long as population is thr economy will be more of so stable.
  • Any insurgency led campaign which bets on enemy fatigue & attrition, is basically non-effective against as India has no dearth of men & material.
What is the solution?

A massive first strike on Indian landmass will nukes closer to 1 megaton on every city of size above a million and rest tactical nukes on Indian armed forces at once, then again the opposing nation has to take a dozen hits from currently single operation SSBM arihant.
 
Food for thought:

Few differences between kashmir valley & afganistan
  • kashmir valley area is much smaller
  • kashmir valley is surrounded by thick layer of border defense forces
  • Unlike Russia and USA ... India can absorb attrition against practically any foe due to large population which is mostly young
  • Indian armed forces already fighting insurgency in valley from past 30 years now, India has seen Afgans/Talibs/Uzbeks/Pashtuns/Panjabis/Pakistanis/Local insurgents.
  • Indian armed forces already fighting insurgency in jungle environment in north east/Maoists from past 60 odd years now
  • Huge number of para military is now mostly battle hardened in local insurgencies freeing Indian regular military.
  • Indian economy is mostly based on local consumption so as long as population is thr economy will be more of so stable.
  • Any insurgency led campaign which bets on enemy fatigue & attrition, is basically non-effective against as India has no dearth of men & material.
What is the solution?

A massive first strike on Indian landmass will nukes closer to 1 megaton on every city of size above a million and rest tactical nukes on Indian armed forces at once, then again the opposing nation has to take a dozen hits from currently single operation SSBM arihant.
Megashit....
 
The temptation for the international community then may be to take the “easier” route of coercing Pakistan to refrain from assisting the Kashmiri freedom struggle and accept India’s imposed “realities” in occupied Jammu & Kashmir.

The world needs to know that coercing Pakistan won't work. Pakistan won't sit and watch RSS fanatics rape and plunder occupied Kashmir.

Megashit....

RSS megacrap to be precise.
 
  • Unlike Russia and USA ... India can absorb attrition against practically any foe due to large population which is mostly young
You haven't seen an "insurgency" yet in Kashmir. You call stone throwers and a some locals with old rifles an insurgency? Trust me if this goes to Afghanistan levels, the Indian army will be begging to stop. You'd be seeing IED's everyday.
 
You haven't seen an "insurgency" yet in Kashmir. You call stone throwers and a some locals with old rifles an insurgency? Trust me if this goes to Afghanistan levels, the Indian army will be begging to stop. You'd be seeing IED's everyday.

I think Indian Armed forces has seen enough the 1990s were pretty rough when pakistan pretty much has full access to kashmir valley those days battle hardened Talibanis entered the valley, nowadays the border security is pretty much tight and pakistan might try to open pipeline again with Taliban but it will not be that successful as in 1990s

like I said the only solution to take Kashmir valley from India is massive first strike when I am saying massive it means taking every city with over million habitants and using tactical nuke on Indian armed forces, and prepare for a lone SSBM Arihant response of 12 nukes only which will increase with time end of next decade thr will be 3 more boomers with much more nukes will be patrolling Indian seas.
 
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i think it is wrong to compare kashmir with afghanistan due to many reasons like
a. afghanistan is much bigger then kashmir
b. afghanis are probably the most barbaric nation on the face of the earth. they know only one thing to do and that is to fight which is usually not in the name of islam. when there was no russia or US in afg they kept on fighting among themselves. kashmiris are not that type of material.
c. kashmiris dont have access to that much weapons and ammo as the afghans have got. pak is not on position of supplying with that kind of weaponry to kashmiris for fighting their freedom war.
 
like I said the only solution to take Kashmir valley from India is massive first strike when I am saying massive it means taking every city with over million habitants and using tactical nuke on Indian armed forces, and prepare for a lone SSBM Arihant response of 12 nukes only which will increase with time end of next decade thr will be 3 more boomers with much more nukes will be patrolling Indian seas.

The Indian land based nuclear missiles are not based in cities with over million inhabitants. You will face a lot more than 12 nukes.
 
The Indian land based nuclear missiles are not based in cities with over million inhabitants. You will face a lot more than 12 nukes.

First strike means all cities and all armed forces including nukes will be targeted. Only possible survival is stealth SSBMs which are almost impossible to find in abyss of vast oceans
 
First strike means all cities and all armed forces including nukes will be targeted. Only possible survival is stealth SSBMs which are almost impossible to find in abyss of vast oceans

How will you target the nukes if you don't know where they are. Some of them are mobile on TELs. Others are in hardened silos that can withstand nuclear explosions. You don't know where the TELs are as you would need multiple satellites to keep track of them.
 
How will you target the nukes if you don't know where they are. Some of them are mobile on TELs. Others are in hardened silos that can withstand nuclear explosions. You don't know where the TELs are as you would need multiple satellites to keep track of them.

currently pakistan has about 150-200 nukes out of them 25 odd could be smaller tactical nukes, so even after destroying 100 cities<bigger metros might not be possible> with one hit each<keeping aside unknown ABM capabilities> pakistan has around 100 nukes to spend on armed forces so in massive first strike every likely target can be taken out of course thr will be some units that will survive. But India will more or less lose its economy and armed forces major command centers. In retaliation if India is able to launch same number of nukes if India can detect pak nukes on times this will ensure MUTUAL ASSURED DESTRUCTION of both countries so kashmir will likely get freedom unless Indian armed forces stationed thr doesnt start clean up operations in rage. So basically pakistan does have ability to free up kashmir valley at least although valley will need to be supplied with food and fuel from outside I guess, but usage of 400-500 nukes might create nuclear winter in subcontinent.
 
I think Indian Armed forces has seen enough the 1990s were pretty rough when pakistan pretty much has full access to kashmir valley those days battle hardened Talibanis entered the valley, nowadays the border security is pretty much tight and pakistan might try to open pipeline again with Taliban but it will not be that successful as in 1990s

like I said the only solution to take Kashmir valley from India is massive first strike when I am saying massive it means taking every city with over million habitants and using tactical nuke on Indian armed forces, and prepare for a lone SSBM Arihant response of 12 nukes only which will increase with time end of next decade thr will be 3 more boomers with much more nukes will be patrolling Indian seas.

It never reached the level of an insurgency which has been seen in Afg or Syria / Iraq etc.
 
currently pakistan has about 150-200 nukes out of them 25 odd could be smaller tactical nukes, so even after destroying 100 cities<bigger metros might not be possible> with one hit each<keeping aside unknown ABM capabilities> pakistan has around 100 nukes to spend on armed forces so in massive first strike every likely target can be taken out of course thr will be some units that will survive. But India will more or less lose its economy and armed forces major command centers. In retaliation if India is able to launch same number of nukes if India can detect pak nukes on times this will ensure MUTUAL ASSURED DESTRUCTION of both countries so kashmir will likely get freedom unless Indian armed forces stationed thr doesnt start clean up operations in rage. So basically pakistan does have ability to free up kashmir valley at least although valley will need to be supplied with food and fuel from outside I guess, but usage of 400-500 nukes might create nuclear winter in subcontinent.

No. Kashmir will not get freedom. There are a lot of Indian troops in Kashmir, so I guess you will be nuking Kashmir too.

India does not need to detect pak nukes on time. We can launch our nukes even after your nukes hit us. So we will be having mutual assured destruction.
 

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