Jinnah Wali Azadi demand raised at Shaheen Bagh anti-CAA protest

[War Thunder]

Ghazwa-e-Hind has started and all Muslims need to support to balkanize India.

Well how about the Muslims become Muslims first?
How many Muslims do you know in Pakistan?

 

[El Sidd]

Well how about the Muslims become Muslims first?
How many Muslims do you know in Pakistan?

Government numbers are quite definite

 

[Lincoln]

Stop trying to abuse Ghaz-e-Hind. It is in Ahadees. I am not saying that this is ghazw-e-hind but if you say something against ghazw-e-hind then do keep in mind that it is real as it is in ahadees.

Do some research and stop mocking Ghazw-e-hind ahadees..

It's an unreliable hadith, and we don't know which timeline it refers to.

Frankly, we are NOT interested in taking over India, warna faida Pakistan ka?

 

[sohail.ishaque]

First of all it's Ghazwa-e-Hind not Ghaz-e-Hind - Second, It's you who gave Fatwa that Ghazwa-e-Hin have started - Third, If your believe is that much strong then you should have already been marching towards red fort because as per Hadith, everyone who takes part in that Ghazwa will surely go to heaven. So, stop bringing Quran & Hadith in the issue, Hindustani Muslims are getting what they deserved, they have been mocking Pakistanis for decades to prove their loyalties to Bharat mata.

First of all, stop acting like a high school teacher. You won't get an Oscar for pointing out a typing/spelling mistake. There are a few mistakes in ur post also, but we are not here to teach each other english grammer, are we ?
Second, I haven't given any Fatwa(btw that wasn't my post about ghazw-e-hind) that it has started or it'll start when. I am just saying, don't mock it. And that means if u laugh at it, ur laughing at the ahadees. I see a lot of pathetic scumbag, including u, doing that every now and then without realizing what they are doing.
Thirdly, And yes i do believe in it and i'll join it in any way i can and I won't need ur orders or permissions for that.

And yes, i don't like Hindustani, Bangali, or Afghani namak harams, but that doesn't mean that i start abusing my own ahadees.

It's an unreliable hadith, and we don't know which timeline it refers to.

Frankly, we are NOT interested in taking over India, warna faida Pakistan ka?

ok, so you are going to decide which hadith is reliable and which is not ? As far as the timeline is concerned, i myself haven't said anything about it. I mean i never said that it has started or it'll start when.

My only objection is that we shudn't mock any hadees, Even if we are not sure about its reliability, we can just leave it as is.

And again, why are you saying WE ? i mean which group of people u represent ? the establishment, Pak Govt ??? i would like to know, seriously.

Btw I think Ghazw-e-hind has not much to do with the Indian muslims, it is not related to them, infact it is more related to war between india and pakistan.
The last line is totally my own understanding, i don't want you to agree with it or deny it. Its just my assumption. Thats all.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Well how about the Muslims become Muslims first?
How many Muslims do you know in Pakistan?

Once we take care of these kuffars, we can take care of the looney liberals amongst us.

 

[War Thunder]

Once we take care of these kuffars, we can take care of the looney liberals amongst us.

How about fixing yourself, and overcoming your flawed self, before embarking on a kuffar beating journey?
Where have these journeys taken you or the country while the men involved in the undertaking made poor examples of being Muslims?

 

[Lincoln]

First of all, stop acting like a high school teacher. You won't get an Oscar for pointing out a typing/spelling mistake. There are a few mistakes in ur post also, but we are not here to teach each other english grammer, are we ?
Second, I haven't given any Fatwa(btw that wasn't my post about ghazw-e-hind) that it has started or it'll start when. I am just saying, don't mock it. And that means if u laugh at it, ur laughing at the ahadees. I see a lot of pathetic scumbag, including u, doing that every now and then without realizing what they are doing.
Thirdly, And yes i do believe in it and i'll join it in any way i can and I won't need ur orders or permissions for that.

And yes, i don't like Hindustani, Bangali, or Afghani namak harams, but that doesn't mean that i start abusing my own ahadees.



ok, so you are going to decide which hadith is reliable and which is not ? As far as the timeline is concerned, i myself haven't said anything about it. I mean i never said that it has started or it'll start when.

My only objection is that we shudn't mock any hadees, Even if we are not sure about its reliability, we can just leave it as is.

And again, why are you saying WE ? i mean which group of people u represent ? the establishment, Pak Govt ??? i would like to know, seriously.

Btw I think Ghazw-e-hind has not much to do with the Indian muslims, it is not related to them, infact it is more related to war between india and pakistan.
The last line is totally my own understanding, i don't want you to agree with it or deny it. Its just my assumption. Thats all.

The three hadith in question are considered da'eef, meaning weak. In other words, unreliable.

By we, you can interpret whatever you like, but Jinnah created Pakistan because he didn't believe in the unity system of Hindustan, why would we want to invade and unite again.

The only people who propel this notion are like the same religious leaders who opposed the Pakistan Movement.

Pakistani and Indians are different people. The only thing we desire to take back is Kashmir. Nothing else. Pakistan first.

Enough said.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Jinnah wali azadi ghulamoo ko nhi milti

Or in other words : basanti.....

 

[sohail.ishaque]

The three hadith in question are considered da'eef, meaning weak. In other words, unreliable.

By we, you can interpret whatever you like, but Jinnah created Pakistan because he didn't believe in the unity system of Hindustan, why would we want to invade and unite again.

The only people who propel this notion are like the same religious leaders who opposed the Pakistan Movement.

Pakistani and Indians are different people. The only thing we desire to take back is Kashmir. Nothing else. Pakistan first.

Enough said.

First, Please clarify the bold part,. Declared by who ? you ? This is the same question that i asked in the last post and again u just tell us that these ahadees are unreliable but no proof is given by you.

Secondly, Unity is different, and ruling it is different. And imho, Ghazw-e-hind has nothing to do with the Indian muslims, its more about the war between Pak and India. And also i don't have any affection for the Indian muslims. I believe they'll pay the price for their forefathers mistake.

Now if you have any answer to my first question, then reply, else don't. Please. There is no point in arguing without any logic.

 

[Lincoln]

First, Please clarify the bold part,. Declared by who ? you ? This is the same question that i asked in the last post and again u just tell us that these ahadees are unreliable but no evidence is given by you.

Secondly, Unity is different, and ruling it is different. And imho, Ghazw-e-hind has nothing to do with the Indian muslims, its more about the war between Pak and India. And also i don't have any affection for the Indian muslims. I believe they'll pay the price for their forefathers mistake.

Now if you have any answer to my first question, then reply, else don't. Please. There is no point in arguing without any logic.

Decided by who? What do you mean by who? Don't you know how Ahadith are classified?

Also, Quaid e Azam believed in a democratic society. He endorsed unity at first but when he eventually realized that under the Hindus of the subcontinent, democracy for Muslims would be farce, he began his work for an independent state; he also said that Muslims could never live with the Hindus due to changing ideologies and perspectives.

So, even if you believe in an Islamic Rule (which amounts to pan Islamism, and there's no place for that, even Iqbal believed in an Islamic Commonwealth of Natioms, and not Imperialism, such knowledge can be found in his book about Reconnaissance of Islam and Muslims, which is frequently criticized by Ulema), it is counter intuitive to democracy which the Quaid longed for, and it is also counter intuitive to the idea of ideology clash and that the two people could not live together... unless you plan to wipe out all Indians.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

Decided by who? What do you mean by who? Don't you know how Ahadith are classified?

Also, Quaid e Azam believed in a democratic society. He endorsed unity at first but when he eventually realized that under the Hindus of the subcontinent, democracy for Muslims would be farce, he began his work for an independent state; he also said that Muslims could never live with the Hindus due to changing ideologies and perspectives.

So, even if you believe in an Islamic Rule (which amounts to pan Islamism, and there's no place for that, even Iqbal believed in an Islamic Commonwealth of Natioms, and not Imperialism, such knowledge can be found in his book about Reconnaissance of Islam and Muslims, which is frequently criticized by Ulema), it is counter intuitive to democracy which the Quaid longed for, and it is also counter intuitive to the idea of ideology clash and that the two people could not live together... unless you plan to wipe out all Indians.

You win, i loose. Please don't reply to me again. Thanks.

 

[Lincoln]

You win, i loose. Please don't reply to me again. Thanks.

Thank you for not reading my reply and not countering my arguments.


To expand on Hadith classification.

For your knowledge, it would be better if you learn about classification of Hadith. The hadith in Bukhari and Muslim are regarded as Sahih, while there are 4 more categories, I believe after that.

The hadith are classified in a scientific manner. I have forgotten the conditions, but it depends on the person who narrated, the chain of narrators, if there's a break in between or not, multiple factors. It is classified like this accepted internationally.

Da'eef, meaning weak, is in the 3rd or 4th category, I think. I did not decide these. Thank you.

You win, i loose. Please don't reply to me again. Thanks.

I can also share references directly from Iqbal's book, and from Quaid's life, to support what I have claimed.

 

[Chhatrapati]

@The_Showstopper
Sounds about right. The acting was top class though singing Vande matharam, Jana gana mana, waving flag. Some people just can't hide their real aim, no matter how hard they pretend.
Otoh sounds horrible, it's good to hear. @Protest_again

 

[Protest_again]

@The_Showstopper
Sounds about right. The acting was top class though singing Vande matharam, Jana gana mana, waving flag. Some people just can't hide their real aim, no matter how hard they pretend.
Otoh sounds horrible, it's good to hear. @Protest_again

At least they realised they can't fight the constitution. They are playing to gallery, but thats fine. Lets celebrate. Now they come to realise that they are not special.

 

[The_Showstopper]

@The_Showstopper
Sounds about right. The acting was top class though singing Vande matharam, Jana gana mana, waving flag. Some people just can't hide their real aim, no matter how hard they pretend.
Otoh sounds horrible, it's good to hear. @Protest_again

Looks like, you're already getting orgasms

Anyways did he ever speak out against singing national anthem?

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