JF-17B - EW 'Growler'

[Imran Khan]

Stealth fighter like j-20 Can be very better option?


Sir is this EW is ready for export


I don't think so that this blk3 has another 2 additional hardpoints

nope sir j-16 or su-34-35 may be good idea

 

[JohnWick]

nope sir j-16 or su-34-35 may be good idea

Sir but consider
F-15+stealth=j-31 better than sukhois
The era of j-16,j-11,j-15 su-35 has nearly ended

 

[LKJ86]

Hi,

The cheapest option for a EW aircraft is JH7A

Sir is this EW is ready for export

JH-7E

 

[JohnWick]

JH-7E
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we should develop jf-17b into this configuration and i think it would prove a better platform than jh-7E

 

[Dazzler]

EW configuration had been tested on a blk 2 single seat jf-17 quite extensively. The option is there and will be used when felt necessary.

 

[JohnWick]

EW configuration had been tested on a blk 2 single seat jf-17 quite extensively. The option is there and will be used when felt necessary.

In kamra or in Chengdu?

 

[Dazzler]

In kamra or in Chengdu?

KAMRA

 

[denel]

JH-7E
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Thank u... this is another great use for jh-7e.

 

[JohnWick]

KAMRA

It seems to be a aircraft righ??

 

[MastanKhan]

Stealth fighter like j-20 Can be very better option?


Sir is this EW is ready for export


I don't think so that this blk3 has another 2 additional hardpoints

Hi,

With China---you have to learn how to ask---and that is what the pakistanis are extremely terrible at---.

we should develop jf-17b into this configuration and i think it would prove a better platform than jh-7E

Hi,

No it won't---the aircraft is too small---.

 

[denel]

Hi,

With China---you have to learn how to ask---and that is what the pakistanis are extremely terrible at---.



Hi,

No it won't---the aircraft is too small---.

we should develop jf-17b into this configuration and i think it would prove a better platform than jh-7E

to prior member's post... not mk's reply.
no..... for a dedicated EW, you just cannot convert it; there is an entire issue of shielding; power etc that needs to be taken into account; if not, the pilots will fry from inside.

 

[SQ8]

Thanks. That is a scenario utilizing baseline techniques for triangulation. The Growler uses something like this:

https://www.defenseone.com/technolo...y-target-jamming-pods/110038/?oref=d-dontmiss

That needs three aircrafts.

The issue here is that the modeller who does these only has a limited simulation capacity. Perhaps if the JF-17 for DCS was ever released we could see some pretty close simulation.

 

[CriticalThought]

The issue here is that the modeller who does these only has a limited simulation capacity. Perhaps if the JF-17 for DCS was ever released we could see some pretty close simulation.

More than mere simulation, I hope PAC has the capacity to develop an indigenous triangulation algorithm and spoofing signals.

 

[SQ8]

to prior member's post... not mk's reply.
no..... for a dedicated EW, you just cannot convert it; there is an entire issue of shielding; power etc that needs to be taken into account; if not, the pilots will fry from inside.

The shielding exists on some Pakistani F-16s and also on certain mirages thanks to lessons from the French and you guys. Its applied on the canopy and cockpit area and adds about a 50-80lbs depending upon material. Not as drastic as you say it but it is needed, however less so if the electronic emitters are in external pods away from the main body of the aircraft (unlike a EA-6 or F-111G where they sit within the airframe); the growler has only slightly better shileding than the normal F/A-18 which is why Australia’s hornets are essentially hollow growlers ready for conversion.

The issue is power but RAT(Ram air Turbines) make do for the ALQ-99, 131 and 211 and should make do for any other pod.

 

[denel]

The shielding exists on some Pakistani F-16s and also on certain mirages thanks to lessons from the French and you guys. Its applied on the canopy and cockpit area and adds about a 50-80lbs depending upon material. Not as drastic as you say it but it is needed, however less so if the electronic emitters are in external pods away from the main body of the aircraft (unlike a EA-6 or F-111G where they sit within the airframe); the growler has only slightly better shileding than the normal F/A-18 which is why Australia’s hornets are essentially hollow growlers ready for conversion.

The issue is power but RAT(Ram air Turbines) make do for the ALQ-99, 131 and 211 and should make do for any other pod.

correct; shielding plus all the electronics need to be re-tested in worse case scenario; in one of the EW pod testings, we were finding birdies all over the place which caused havoc in the navigation and comms.