JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[Goritoes]

block 3 is replacing pl-5 with pl-10 s

I am more concerned about dual racks for BVR, Indians are trying to get see first shoot first capability, so i doubt paf will neglect this issues of bvr over wvr.

 

[araz]

I am more concerned about dual racks for BVR, Indians are trying to get see first shoot first capability, so i doubt paf will neglect this issues of bvr over wvr.

DERs are a part of Block 3 package and have been shown at least on some models. @messiach had told us they are already incorporated on block 2s but not used except in emergency situation for preservation of air frames. I see no reason why they will not be there on block 3s. You will need HOBS for the merge if both parties escape the bvrs but if that is the case use of HOBS missiles in WVR will ensure MAD in both cases.
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[Enigma SIG]

jsf has removed hud as helmet display provided everything so no need for HUD

but ....

F-35 Pilot Reveals the Disappointing Truth About the Fighter's Cockpit

"I haven't met anyone who uses it," the pilot says about one pointless feature.

www.popularmechanics.com

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Like a car without a tachometer. Gives me the creeps.
Though you'd argue that a good driver/pilot can work on "feel" alone.

 

[Goritoes]

DERs are a part of Block 3 package and have been shown at least on some models. @messiach had told us they are already incorporated on block 2s but not used except in emergency situation for preservation of air frames. I see no reason why they will not be there on block 3s. You will need HOBS for the merge if both parties escape the bvrs but if that is the case use of HOBS missiles in WVR will ensure MAD in both cases.
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I wonder how confident PAF is with the JF dog fight and WVR fighting capabilities, the feb 2019 one we know was F-16 so?

 

[The Raven]

block 3 is replacing pl-5 with pl-10 s

You don't necessarily need IRST for HMD/S HOBS missile combo, e.g. the JHMCS/AIM-9X combo, rather IRST, or a DAS type system on the F-35, is for long range passive threat detection. Although in theory the new IR-based MAWS detectors on the Block III could detect aircraft, I doubt they will be of the quality needed or the appropriate signal processing installed. Instead, the most likely solution will be an IRST similar to the one on the J-10C.

 

[khanasifm]

You don't necessarily need IRST for HMD/S HOBS missile combo, e.g. the JHMCS/AIM-9X combo, rather IRST, or a DAS type system on the F-35, is for long range passive threat detection. Although in theory the new IR-based MAWS detectors on the Block III could detect aircraft, I doubt they will be of the quality needed or the appropriate signal processing installed. Instead, the most likely solution will be an IRST similar to the one on the J-10C.

MAWS is missiles approach and warning system not sure how you are using it instead of IRST which is basically a ir camera

please explain? Because both are on IR spectrum ?
A mini Distributed aperture system ?

 

[khanasifm]

So know block 1 had not composites and other no clue while watching pac kamra they only speak of sheet metal and machines parts but nothing about composites for Jf

only falco uav composites are referenced on tv program

so where t the composite on Jf ?

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1370/MR1370.ch2.pdf

 

[Metal 0-1]

Genuine question though; Why PAF didn't opted for GB-6 and LS-6-500 Glide bomb for Jeff.

Glad to get answers from Senior members.

 

[The Raven]

MAWS is missiles approach and warning system not sure how you are using it instead of IRST which is basically a ir camera

please explain? Because both are on IR spectrum ?
A mini Distributed aperture system ?

Lookup how the DAS works on the F-35, it's more than just a MAWS.

 

[krash]

if that is the case use of HOBS missiles in WVR will ensure MAD in both cases.
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There will still be parameters that would need to be met with HOBS missiles. The envelop of escape will be tighter, no doubt, but it still will be there.

Genuine question though; Why PAF didn't opted for GB-6 and LS-6-500 Glide bomb for Jeff.
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Glad to get answers from Senior members.

Because GIDS makes our own REK. Pretty sure these were also the ones the JF-17s dropped during Ops Swift Retort.

Takbir

If you were specifically asking about the 500 variant of the LS-6 then we probably have them, since Pakistan did, reportedly, use the LS-6 kits before Takbir.


Don't know about the GB-6.

 

[Metal 0-1]

If you were specifically asking about the 500 variant of the LS-6 then we probably have them, since Pakistan did, reportedly, use the LS-6 kits before Takbir.


Don't know about the GB-6.

Yes talking about them because they offer more stand off range

 

[krash]

Yes talking about them because they offer more stand off range

The 500 doesn't offer more range, it offers greater payload. 500kg vs 250kg, to be exact.

Also, the Takbir is supposed to be an improvement on the LS-6.

 

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[FuturePAF]

Genuine question though; Why PAF didn't opted for GB-6 and LS-6-500 Glide bomb for Jeff.
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Glad to get answers from Senior members.

Please refrain from calling the JF-17 “Jeff” it is not considered acceptable by many of the moderators on this forum.

 

[MastanKhan]

Please refrain from calling the JF-17 “Jeff” it is not considered acceptable by many of the moderators on this forum.

Hi,

Since when have the moderators changed their name to GOD---?