JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[DESERT FIGHTER]

looking like somewere in balochistan?

Its Jordan!!The uploader of the videos is from jordan and the place where JFT land appears to be some arab county..simple Logic.

 

[Dazzler]

We don't have to wait until blk 2 in anycase.

The main structure to house the radar is the nose. So as long as they are same on all of the production aircraft, AESA can be retrofitted to the older models (with wiring etc) and also to production ones.


The problem is finding the right one. We need a lightweight AESA radar that is not too power hungry. But then we also want it's range to be more than 150Km........why 150?
Because of future longer range BVR AAMs and any potential AWACS killer missile.

Even if we had the EF Typhoon radar, we still wouldn't be able to fit it. So better that PAF issues tender to all the Chinese,European and US firms for AESA radars and gives its specifications.


Much easier to design a plane and put radar in it rather than to make a radar and then design the plane around it!

First 50 will not be upgraded in terms of radar as they are already much lethal in current form. Radar will be replaced from second batch onwards. Nose is sufficient for an AESA and has enough room for both Selex vixen 750 and NRIET AESA. Just a matter of which one wins the competition.

 

[Dazzler]

The sound of RD-93 is sheer music to my ears !!!

 

[ANG]

Hi Mr. Nabil_05, is the Selex Vixen 750 a new radar? I have heard of the 500 and the 1000 for the Griphen NG. Thanks!

 

[Dazzler]

There is the information of vixen 750 as it can be fitted in lighter fighters like the F-16

Europe designs radars autonomously from U.S.: AINonline[story_pointer]=3

 

[ANG]

Hi Mr. Nabil_05, thanks for the reply. I also found the following article that confirms that this is a new radar being developed. It would be nice if it is fit into the JF-17. Take care.

Saab: Gripen Still in Race for Indian Contract - Defense News

 

[Arsalan]

frinds the new engine is comming.
JF17 in china conductng trails with new, most probably the WS-13 engine.

regards!

 

[Patriot]

JF-17 Landing at some Air base in UAE.

 

[WAQAS119]

China and Pakistan Push Chengdu JF-17 Fighter for Export

In the same week that the Chengdu JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft made its international debut at the Farnborough airshow, the product of this co-development between China and Pakistan was offered to Indonesia. The Pakistan Defence Minister signed a defense cooperation agreement with his Indonesian counterpart in Jakarta. The list of countries that the Sino-Pakistan joint venture is targeting for sales is expanding fast: it reportedly also includes Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Congo, Egypt, Iran, Nigeria, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkey, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

At Farnborough, joint-venture partners Catic and PAC described the JF-17 as a multi-role light fighter with an “outstanding performance-to-cost ratio.” The two aircraft on display were ferried to Farnborough but did not fly during the show, and officials were reluctant to allow journalists into the cockpit to view the three multifunction displays plus head-up display, HOTAS (hands on throttle and stick) and other avionics. The aircraft were shown with PL-5II IR-guided air-to-air missiles on wingtip rails and ferry tanks on the centerline and inner wing stations, leaving the outer wing stations unloaded. Mockups of five Chinese stores were displayed next to the aircraft: a C802A anti-ship missile; an SD-10A active radar-guided air-to-air missile; an LS-6 glide bomb; a WMD-7 targeting pod; and a KG300G electronic warfare pod.

Program officials said that a development JF-17 is now flying in China with a Chinese-developed engine, presumably the WS-13 Taishan. All other JF-17s are powered by the Russian-supplied RD-93 turbofan. On the eve of Farnborough, a Russian newspaper reported the opposition of Sukhoi and MiG director-general Mikhail Pogosian to a further sale of RD-93s to China because the JF-17 is competing with the MiG-29 for export sales. At the show, however, Russian officials, including Pogosian, played down this concern.

 

[fatman17]

EUROPE
Date Posted: 11-Jun-2010


Jane's Defence Weekly

Ukranian firm develops new retrofit bomb kit

Reuben F Johnson JDW Correspondent - Berlin

The private Ukrainian defence electronics firm Adron presented a new retrofit bomb kit at the ILA Air Show that can convert several classes of 'dumb' Soviet/Russian or Warsaw Pact-designed bombs into precision-guided munitions.

The unit is designated as the Adros Blok Aerodynamicheskovo Upravleniya (Aerodynamic Trajectory Control Module [BAU])-01K. Company specialists explained that this unit can be added to almost any 100, 250 or 500 kg bomb.

The unit utilises GPS for its guidance and requires that the aircraft dropping it have a digital control protocol converter on-board to download target co-ordinates into the bomb's guidance unit. The main assembly is fitted to the front end of a 'dumb' bomb and is equipped with a set of guidance vanes. A second, add-on set of vanes are installed at the aft section of the bomb. These two control units give the bomb a circular error probable (CEP) that "is not worse than the American [Boeing] JDAM", said one company specialist.

The company's marketing presentations showed that the BAU-01K has been fitted to different-sized bombs for testing on Ukrainian Air Force Sukhoi Su-25 and Mikoyan MiG-29 aircraft, but it was noted that " Ukraine is not likely to be our first or largest customer. They just do not have that kind of money".

Adron is now preparing to put the bomb kit through a series of trials and test flights, although company officials stated: "We have export customers lining up who want to buy this unit - some of whom have said that they would be willing to buy before we had even completed our operational testing programme." Adron would not say who the first likely customer was, but did say "that there is a lot of interest from nations in the Middle East and Southwest Asia". Ukraine has traditionally been a supplier of weaponry to Pakistan, which would be a likely candidate for this kit.

Adron representatives also stated that they would be careful about who they sold the kit to - not solely because they want to be sure they are not dealing with any embargoed nations, but also out of concern for protecting their intellectual property. "There are some countries in Asia that we would be hesitant to deal with or might even refuse to sell to altogether because of problems with them making illegal copies of this product," said one company official.

A standard 'dumb' bomb (grey) and the front end add-on BAU-01K (white) to demonstrate the ease of retrofitting. Another small set of vanes (also in white) are added to the aft section of the bomb to complete the retrofit.

A bomb fitted with the BAU-01K bomb kit on a Ukrainian Air Force Su-25.

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan plans SD-10A firings by the end of 2010

02-Aug-2010 JMR

Mockups of Chinese SD-10A beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) were displayed alongside two Pakistan Air Force (PAF) JF-17 Thunder fighters shown in the static park ...

 

[Quwa]

Seems PAF has a number of good PGB/JDAM-type kit options for JF-17:

Ukrainian BAU-01K
South African Umbani
Turkish HGK/HGSS

Air Weapons Complex, Pakistani manufacturer of the MK.80 series of unguided bombs should cooperate with the companies in charge of the above programs. We should license-produce these kits for our own usage, as well as market those firms with JF-17.

 

[hataf]

Seems PAF has a number of good PGB/JDAM-type kit options for JF-17:

Ukrainian BAU-01K
South African Umbani
Turkish HGK/HGSS

Air Weapons Complex, Pakistani manufacturer of the MK.80 series of unguided bombs should cooperate with the companies in charge of the above programs. We should license-produce these kits for our own usage, as well as market those firms with JF-17.

you forget to add Chinese one

 

[Dazzler]

Chinese is a done deal already but we are keeping our options open. AWC also make GBU series under license and is an option on JFT

 

[Dazzler]

Another article covering JFT in FIA ......

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