JF-17 Fighter: China's Weird MiG-21 and F-16 Hybrid

[BHarwana]

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The 42 degree wing is quite izdale 33 style.

Those very best MIG OKB engineers chosen their new home.

But Air intake going below make it a totally different bird than JF-17

izdale 33 has more in common with F-16 than JF-17

Aerodynamically JF-17 is better than both

 

[Raider 21]

Northrop Grumman F-20 Tigershark....whose assembly line was to be shifted to Pakistan when we d ecided to but F-16 instead

Does have some design elements/shape that resembles today's JF-17

F-20 was offered a few years after the F-16 order was placed.

 

[Dazzler]

Mig 33 is totally different thing than jf-17 th difference between mig33 and jf17 is to much. Both jets have totally different aero dynamic properties. F-35 is totally based on jf17. Put a bigger engine into jf17 and take all weapons in internal bay and you get. F-35. F-22 was the only jet at that time which was using the intake system used by jf17.

:O

but, but.....

 

[Hu Yao]

But Air intake going below make it a totally different bird than JF-17

izdale 33 has more in common with F-16 than JF-17

Aerodynamically JF-17 is better than both

Did I say jf-17 is project 33?

I said JF-17 inherateda lot of features from that.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

@Mahmood uz Zaman

 

[BHarwana]

Did I say jf-17 is project 33?

I said JF-17 inherateda lot of features from that.

Not a lot but you can say some. That don't makes it a derivation. 33 was a good project no doubt but 33 is a different breed all together.

 

[deep_blue]

I see a resemblance. Mig-21 >> J-7 >> Sabre II >> Super 7 >> JF-17... all directly related.

Well..
Consult an eye specialist.
And your eyes r doing fine then go to some one who could fix your brain(if there is anything)

 

[denel]

Well..
Consult an eye specialist.
And your eyes r doing fine then go to some one who could fix your brain(if there is anything)

Forget it friend, he is a troll who has nothing better to do. I will even pay for his university education if he wants to put his mind to better use.

 

[ziaulislam]

I have some even better, the JF-17 PT01 itself with "Super-7" painted on its side.

and another with the Pakistani flag instead of the Chinese,

And then of the Maiden flight of the first prototype with Super 7 written on the tail,

And then of the same aircraft landing,

Even these pictures wont be enough. Do I also need to post pictorial proof of the SABRE II project's evolution in to the Super-7 and then its iterative evolution into the JF-17? Because i can. The official Grumman documents detailing the evolution from the Project SABRE II design to the early Super 7 design are readily available online.



If only you knew what that meant.

You do know that super 7 was first shelved in late 1980s
Than in mid to late1990s Chinese invited Pakistan for new design project that was incidentally also named super 7

The concept wasnt to improve the mig21 but ti build something new ...somewhat minor mig21 improvement did ended up as PG while major change was the j-8

 

[untitled]

What's so weird about the JF17?
As for it being hybrid it doesn't matter as long it has some potency

 

[GriffinsRule]

What @ziaulislam and some others have mentioned, the original Super 7 project was shelved and the new design effort that was initiated in the late 90s and led to JF-17 just inherited the project name. There are many references to this such as the article below from Combat Aircraft.

 

[denel]

What @ziaulislam and some others have mentioned, the original Super 7 project was shelved and the new design effort that was initiated in the late 90s and led to JF-17 just inherited the project name. There are many references to this such as the article below from Combat Aircraft.

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I agree; the nomenclature confusion is the root cause of various hypothesis.

 

[denel]

Question - are another 20 in the pipeline for delivery this year? I assume still Blk2. Any thoughts when 17B's will be brought online.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

MiG-21 is an excellent plane. The world's first Mach 2 fighter jet. I'd take a MiG-21 over an F-16 any day. Put an AESA in it, and it's spectacular.

 

[krash]

You do know that super 7 was first shelved in late 1980s
Than in mid to late1990s Chinese invited Pakistan for new design project that was incidentally also named super 7

The concept wasnt to improve the mig21 but ti build something new ...somewhat minor mig21 improvement did ended up as PG while major change was the j-8

Please present facts with references. I've learnt from this thread not to respond to fanciful posts with 'facts' that no one backs up with evidence.