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RIP to the victims.
But this looks and sounds very fishy as it manipulates a sublimimnal message or at least a hidden one!!!

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The French word _ Je suis =I am_ manipulation might just be a sign of the conspiracy theory , A tag I prefer to avoid, but in cases like this one, there are no other proper terms to use, or substitutes.
We all know that Islam is spreading pretty quickly in Europe...The whole scenario might just be a mean to put a halt or try to retard the effects on European societies.
This is just a thought about the possibilities behind these "terrorist attacks" and there timing...
 
WHat do you mean by 'Islam is spreading pretty quickly in Europe'?

A Pew Research Center study, published in January 2011, forecast an increase of Muslims in European population from 6% in 2010 to 8% in 2030. Pew also found that Muslim fertility rate in Europe would drop from 2.2 in 2010 to 2.0 in 2030. On the other hand, the non-Muslim fertility rate in Europe would increase from 1.5 in 2010 to 1.6 in 2030.

In Europe as a whole, the Muslim share of the population is expected to grow by nearly one-third over the next 20 years, rising from 6% of the region’s inhabitants in 2010 to 8% in 2030. In absolute numbers, Europe’s Muslim population is projected to grow from 44.1 million in 2010 to 58.2 million in 2030. The greatest increases – driven primarily by continued migration – are likely to occur in Western and Northern Europe, where Muslims will be approaching double-digit percentages of the population in several countries. In the United Kingdom, for example, Muslims are expected to comprise 8.2% of the population in 2030, up from an estimated 4.6% today. In Austria, Muslims are projected to reach 9.3% of the population in 2030, up from 5.7% today; in Sweden, 9.9% (up from 4.9% today); in Belgium, 10.2% (up from 6% today); and in France, 10.3% (up from 7.5% today)

The growth of the global Muslim population, however, should not obscure another important demographic trend: the rate of growth among Muslims has been slowing in recent decades and is likely to continue to decline over the next 20 years, as the graph below shows. From 1990 to 2000, the Muslim population grew at an average annual rate of 2.3%. The growth rate dipped to 2.1% from 2000 to 2010, and it is projected to drop to 1.7% from 2010 to 2020 and 1.4% from 2020 to 2030 (or 1.5% annually over the 20-year period from 2010 to 2030, as previously noted).

The slowdown in Muslim population growth is most pronounced in the Asia- Pacific region, the Middle East-North Africa and Europe, and less sharp in sub-Saharan Africa. The only region where Muslim population growth is accelerating through 2020 is the Americas, largely because of immigration.
Pew Forum, The Future of the Global Muslim Population, January 2011
The Future of the Global Muslim Population | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project
 
I for one have had enough of Charlie, can we start talking about what is going on in our own back yard please. Charlie is dead, the replaced him with someone else. He has printed new cartoons sold more than seven million copies, the fools who committed this atrocity achieved nothing and there you have it.

Now lets move on.
 
WHat do you mean by 'Islam is spreading pretty quickly in Europe'?

A Pew Research Center study, published in January 2011, forecast an increase of Muslims in European population from 6% in 2010 to 8% in 2030. Pew also found that Muslim fertility rate in Europe would drop from 2.2 in 2010 to 2.0 in 2030. On the other hand, the non-Muslim fertility rate in Europe would increase from 1.5 in 2010 to 1.6 in 2030.


Pew Forum, The Future of the Global Muslim Population, January 2011
The Future of the Global Muslim Population | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

Here is one of thousands of articles contradicting the Pew Research Center findings:

A Peaceful Invasion?

There is a new Muslim conquest of Europe underway—but this time, it is a peaceful invasion. Millions of Turks, Arabs, Algerians and other Muslims have immigrated to European countries, seeking employment and a better life. Often they begin as guest workers before becoming permanent residents. For years, these workers were largely welcomed by nations that needed their lower-cost labor. Increasingly, however, immigrant Muslim populations in Europe are growing to the point that they have become a major cultural and political force affecting their host countries. Rather than assimilate, they are testing the limits of European tolerance—and social tensions are growing.

In 1970, according to the World Christian Encyclopedia, there were 20 percent more Roman Catholics around the world than there were Muslims. By 2000, this proportion had almost reversed; there were 1.20 billion Muslims worldwide, compared to just 1.06 billion Roman Catholics. And Islam is growing, both through births and conversions, at a rate far greater than Roman Catholicism.

This shift is particularly visible in France. Demographers note that among French youth, the percentage of Muslims is much higher than among the general French population. In a recent column, commentator Cal Thomas speculated, "At current rates, the Muslim population will grow… to a majority in 25 years. French culture, possibly French secularism and liberty, cannot be sustained in the face of such demographic facts" ("Lessons Learned," January 11, 2006).

Europeans who once assumed that Muslim terrorism was an American problem are now discovering that it is their problem, too. Spain and Great Britain have experienced bombings. France has seen widespread rioting by radicalized young Muslims. A Danish newspaper found itself at the hub of international uproar when it printed cartoons that some Muslims found offensive—and this controversy is galvanizing Muslim sentiments around the world. As Voice of America reporter Benjamin Sand recently noted, "Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf says the controversy over editorial cartoons of… Islam's prophet, Muhammad, is uniting moderate and radical Muslims. As he spoke, thousands of Pakistanis protested, and there were several instances of violence, as the caricatures continue to fuel anti-western rage across the Muslim world." (Voice of America News, February 13, 2006).

Although there are many voices urging moderation, controversy ver the Danish cartoons is fanning anti-Muslim sentiments as well. Some of Europe's non-Muslim commentators are no longer as keen on tolerance as they once were—and other Europeans are listening. Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci echoed an increasingly common sentiment: "Europe is no longer Europe. It is a province of Islam, as Spain and Portugal were at the time of the Moors. It hosts almost 16 million Muslim immigrants and teems with mullahs, imams, mosques, burqas, chadors. It lodges thousands of Islamic terrorists whom governments don't know how to identify and control. People are afraid, and in waving the flag of pacifism—pacifism synonymous with anti-Americanism—they feel protected" ("The Rage, the Pride and the Doubt," Wall Street Journal, March 13, 2003).

An Islamic Europe? | Tomorrow's World


Other statistics from the U.N.:
Islam in North America since 1989 increased 25%

Islam in Africa since 1989 increased 2.15%

Islam in Asia since 1989 increased 12.57%

Islam in Europe since 1989 increased 142.35%

Islam in Latin America since 1989 decreased -4.73%

and Islam in Australia and Oceania / Pacific since 1989 increased 257.01%

Growth of Islam and World Religions
 
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Here is one of thousands of articles contradicting the Pew Research Center findings:
Poor science, comparing different time lengths. Besides, I asked a question, you seem to make it into challenge/debate. Let me point something out on the basis of the case of the Netherlands.

Nearly one million Muslims in the Netherlands
On 1 January 2004 an estimated 945 thousand Muslims were living in the Netherlands, compared with fewer than half a million in 1990. Two-thirds of the total number of Muslims in the Netherlands are Turks and Moroccans.
Muslims made up 5.8 percent of the total population on 1 January 2004. Their number will grow in the years to come and is anticipated to exceed 1 million in the course of 2006.
Muslims in the Netherlands, 1 January
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http://www.cbs.nl/en-GB/menu/themas/dossiers/allochtonen/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2004/2004-1543-wm.htm

Estimates for the Muslims population
increased from 5,000 or 0.05% in 1951, to 132,000 or 1.1% in 1971, to 400,000 or 2.8% in 1981, to 450,000 or 3% in 1991, to 626,000 or 4.1% in 1995, to 890,000 or 5.5% in 2002, to 920,000 or 5.7% in 2003 to 945,000 or 5.8% in 2004.

So yes, there are far more muslims in NL in 2004 relative to 1990. Their number will continue to grow through 2006. But despite the increase 1990-2004, the percentage is still less than 6%.

Moreover.....

More than 850 thousand Muslims in the Netherlands
According to the latest figures issued by Statistics Netherlands, approximately 5 percent of the Dutch population, i.e. 850 thousand persons, were followers of Islam in 2006.
CBS - More than 850 thousand Muslims in the Netherlands - Web magazine

While numbers continued to increase, the proportion declined 0.8% percentpoints in 2 years

Declining church and mosque attendance
More than half of the adult Dutch population consider themselves to belong to a church or religious or philosophical movement. One in five – considerably fewer than in the past – are regular church-goers.
Proportion attending religious meetings at least once a month
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Most substantial decline among Muslims
In recent years, church and mosque attendance has been in decline and far fewer people went to religious meetings. The most substantial decline is recorded in the Muslim community. In the period 2004–2008, an average of 35 percent of Muslims went to the mosque at least once a month, as against 47 percent in 1998 and 1999.
Roman Catholic church attendance was also in decline. In the period 2004–2008, an average of 23 percent of Catholics attended a religious service at least once a month, as against 31 percent in 1998 and 1999. Protestant church attendance was fairly stable.

Half are Roman Catholics
In the Dutch population aged 18 years and older 58 percent are religious. Half of them are Roman Catholics, 9 percent are Dutch Reformed, 4 percent are Calvinists and 6 percent report to belong to the Protestant Church in the Netherlands (PKN).
In the total population of the Netherlands, 5 percent are Muslims. In absolute figures, this amounts to 825 thousand people. Some 95 percent of them have a non-western background. With 296 thousand, Moroccans constitute the largest Muslim group, immediately followed by Turks with 285 thousand Muslims.
http://www.cbs.nl/en-GB/menu/themas/vrije-tijd-cultuur/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2009/2009-2853-wm.htm

And since 2006, the number declined from 850.000 to 825.000 in 2009 while the proportion of muslims has actually held at 5% .... Compared to the 1990s the 'active' attendance has also declined.

This in fact is in alignment with the results of the PEW report.... (decreased muslim birth rate, increased non-muslim birth rate)

CBS = Dutch Bureau of Statistics aka Statistics Netherlands.

SCP - Social Cultural Planingbureau - Report on Muslims in NL (2012)
http://www.scp.nl/dsresource?objectid=33158&type=org

Mosque attendance is dropping faster than church attendance
Muslim Statistics (Mosques) - WikiIslam

2014: still 5%
Religions Roman Catholic 28%, Protestant 19% (includes Dutch Reformed 9%, Protestant Church of The Netherlands, 7%, Calvinist 3%), other 11% (includes about 5% Muslim and lesser numbers of Hindu, Buddhist, Jehovah's Witness, and Orthodox), none 42% (2009 est.)
Netherlands Demographics Profile 2014

Historical data see e.g. http://www.ijesd.org/papers/29-D438.pdf
Houssain Kettani, Muslim Population in Europe: 1950 – 2020 in: International Journal of Environmental Science and Development, Vol. 1, No. 2, June 2010
ISSN:2010-0264
 
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Poor science, comparing different time lengths. Besides, I asked a question, you seem to make it into challenge/debate. Let me point something out on the basis of the case of the Netherlands.


http://www.cbs.nl/en-GB/menu/themas/dossiers/allochtonen/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2004/2004-1543-wm.htm

Estimates for the Muslims population
increased from 5,000 or 0.05% in 1951, to 132,000 or 1.1% in 1971, to 400,000 or 2.8% in 1981, to 450,000 or 3% in 1991, to 626,000 or 4.1% in 1995, to 890,000 or 5.5% in 2002, to 920,000 or 5.7% in 2003 to 945,000 or 5.8% in 2004.

So yes, there are far more muslims in NL in 2004 relative to 1990. Their number will continue to grow through 2006. But despite the increase 1990-2004, the percentage is still less than 6%.

Moreover.....


CBS - More than 850 thousand Muslims in the Netherlands - Web magazine

While numbers continued to increase, the proportion declined 0.8% percentpoints in 2 years


http://www.cbs.nl/en-GB/menu/themas/vrije-tijd-cultuur/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2009/2009-2853-wm.htm

And since 2006, the number declined from 850.000 to 825.000 in 2009 while the proportion of muslims has actually held at 5% .... Compared to the 1990s the 'active' attendance has also declined.

This in fact is in alignment with the results of the PEW report.... (decreased muslim birth rate, increased non-muslim birth rate)

CBS = Dutch Bureau of Statistics aka Statistics Netherlands.

SCP - Social Cultural Planingbureau - Report on Muslims in NL (2012)
http://www.scp.nl/dsresource?objectid=33158&type=org


Muslim Statistics (Mosques) - WikiIslam

2014: still 5%

Netherlands Demographics Profile 2014

Historical data see e.g. http://www.ijesd.org/papers/29-D438.pdf
Houssain Kettani, Muslim Population in Europe: 1950 – 2020 in: International Journal of Environmental Science and Development, Vol. 1, No. 2, June 2010
ISSN:2010-0264
You seem to think debate and challenge most of the time. That was not my intention . I have provided other statistics and other points of view. You should rethink your thought processes, your hasty assemptions and your feelings too.
 
You seem to think debate and challenge most of the time. That was not my intention . I have provided other statistics and other points of view. You should rethink your thought processes, your hasty assemptions and your feelings too.

Does the Dutch example not inform you that your examples and the PEW report are not necessarily in conflict, even though the numbers are very different?
 
Does the Dutch example not inform you that your examples and the PEW report are not necessarily in conflict, even though the numbers are very different?
Indeed they are not in conflict, the numbers depend on the type of variables as well as the type of samples along many other variables or covariables that one choses in any statistics study.
I believe more in the UN statistics, since they compile more data from different countries, sometimes even the black number or hidden data and their statistics are thus more comprehensive.
 
Indeed they are not in conflict, the numbers depend on the type of variables as well as the type of samples along many other variables or covariables that one choses in any statistics study.
I believe more in the UN statistics, since they compile more data from different countries, sometimes even the black number or hidden data and their statistics are thus more comprehensive.
No, that is not what I meant. What I meant was that there is a difference between a (in this case long term) trend in the absolute numbers and the (in this case shorter term) trend in relative numbers.

UN (or OECD for that matter) often must rely on data supplied by national statistics agencies.
 

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