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Japan's Mitsubishi Corp. and Turkey's Gap İnşaat on Monday laid the foundation of a $1.3 billion plant to produce carbamide in Turkmenistan, which plans to gain added value by using its natural gas to produce the fertilizer for export.

Turkmenistan holds the world's fourth-largest reserves of natural gas. Its economy has grown by more than 10 percent a year in recent years, owing largely to rising gas exports to China via a pipeline built in late 2009. But the government of the Central Asian country has also invested billions of dollars in projects to develop other sources of exports. Under this program, the new plant will process natural gas to produce annually 1.1 million tons of the fertilizer carbamide, which is also known as urea, for a global market. "The plant is entirely designed for exports. Carbamide delivered from here will be loaded onto ships and then sent to overseas nations," Turkmen President Kurbanguly Berdymukhamedov said at a lavish ground-breaking ceremony in a desert area some 800 km (500 miles) west of the capital Ashgabat.

The plant, which will employ 1,000 workers, will be built near the Garabogaz Bay in the Caspian Sea. The fertilizer will be shipped mainly to markets in Europe and the Far East, local government officials have said. The $1.3 billion cost of the project will be 85 percent financed by a loan from Japan Bank for International Cooperation and the rest by the Turkmen government. Also under the diversification plan, Berdymukhamedov in June concluded two large-scale agreements with South Korea's LG International Corp and Hyundai Engineering to build two plants worth a total of $4 billion to process gas into other products. One plant will produce 600,000 tons of liquid fuels per year, and the other will produce 290,000 tons of polyvinyl chloride and 190,000 tons of hydrate of sodium a year, a government official said at the time.


Japan, Turkey build $1.3 bln Turkmen fertiliser plant


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great news so this is the "how" russian domain on EU gas markets will ends im sure from this time we will hear more good news about Turkmenistan Azerbaijan friendship lets hope turkmens could hold the iranian& russian's leverage until the gas flow to Europe
 
I love this- heheh would like to see more corporation :D
me too with turkey and japan are at Turkmenistan's side im sure they will succeed japan also can be active in turkmenistan sea farming program they will need Japanese vast knowledge and experience in sea farming but i fear if japon get more active in turkmenistan china gets upset ! see this

Iran’s new challenge, losing Turkmen gas

so now turkmenistan only have to costumer russia and china it is clear russia will do anything to stop this so it's leave china as only reliable income
 
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me too with turkey and japan are at Turkmenistan's side im sure they will succeed japan also can be active in turkmenistan sea farming program they will need Japanese vast knowledge and experience in sea farming but i fear if japon get more active in turkmenistan china gets upset ! see this

Iran’s new challenge, losing Turkmen gas

so now turkmenistan only have to costumer russia and china it is clear russia will do anything to stop this so it's leave china as only reliable income
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Russia also doesn't like Chinese influence in Central Asia. Turkmen gas should be sold through Caspian pipeline to Europe.
 
You must have been upset for 5 years because that's how long turkmenistan has been selling gas to China.
actually im not , china played very different than russia , russia just tried to isolate / colonized turkmenistan what im afired of is that the china (since dont have good relations with japon ) begin to played nasty with turkmenistan
 
actually im not , china played very different than russia , russia just tried to isolate / colonized turkmenistan what im afired of is that the china (since dont have good relations with japon ) begin to played nasty with turkmenistan

I don't think you have to worry about any Chinese backlash since they do have a non-interventionist policy in other nations' internal affairs. They didn't even care when Japan conducts business investments with Pakistan, which is their major ally.

Am i right? @Chinese-Dragon , @Genesis , @Edison Chen , @LeveragedBuyout ?
 
I don't think you have to worry about any Chinese backlash since they do have a non-interventionist policy in other nations' internal affairs. They didn't even care when Japan conducts business investments with Pakistan, which is their major ally.

Am i right? @Chinese-Dragon , @Genesis , @Edison Chen , @LeveragedBuyout ?

Don't do that, seems lame, we may not always play by the rules, but the one rule we do follow is, we'll never stop anyone from anybody, let's put all our stuff on the table and let yourself see what's what.

Never understood these hard tactics, it never works, people go to the best deals, and the most prosperous nations, we tried isolation, didn't work, and now we have far more "allies" in Africa than we ever did during the isolation days.
 
Don't do that, seems lame, we may not always play by the rules, but the one rule we do follow is, we'll never stop anyone from anybody, let's put all our stuff on the table and let yourself see what's what.

Never understood these hard tactics, it never works, people go to the best deals, and the most prosperous nations, we tried isolation, didn't work, and now we have far more "allies" in Africa than we ever did during the isolation days.
so u are ok of any other company work in Turkmenistan ?? like japan and south Korea ? until this day china didn't done anything wrong in turkmenistan what possible will destroy this relation if turkmenistan make good relation with usa will u play nasty ?? what is your red line ? are u ok with turkmens to sell gas to eu ??


btw cmon turkmenistan is a 4.5 million pop with 4th largest gas energy in the world unlike russia and iran they dont use energy so much this make it more likly to others to isolate the country

like russia and iran they buy the gas with very very cheap price from turkmenistan and sell it with high price to eu and turkey and when turkmenistan try to find new costumer like china they play nasty this was what they have done to stop turkmenistan to sell it gas to china

russia purposely close the pipeline which lead to it's distraction
ukraine said it wont buy gas from turkmenistan
iran even was far worse they simply said we will use your gas but we wont pay u !

this lead the country with zero income will u act like them if turkmenistan try to sell gas to eu ?
 
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I don't think you have to worry about any Chinese backlash since they do have a non-interventionist policy in other nations' internal affairs. They didn't even care when Japan conducts business investments with Pakistan, which is their major ally.

Am i right?

Turkmenistan, to its benefit, does not share a border with China, so it's unlikely that China will suddenly produce a map from 1649 showing that Turkmenistan belonged to a previous Chinese dynasty, and thus it, and its gas, belongs to China. That's not a possibility at this time, so China's interest is simply in a reliable supply of gas. As long as Turkmenistan fulfills its contractual obligations, I don't see any reason for China to be involved further, unless it wants to participate in building more infrastructure in Turkmenistan.

Russia, however, does regard Turkmenistan as part of its sphere of influence, so I can easily see Russian interference or bullying of Turkmenistan if Turkmenistan reduces Russia's leverage over Europe by supplying its own gas.
 
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Turkmenistan, to its benefit, does not share a border with China, so it's unlikely that China will suddenly produce a map from 1649 showing that Turkmenistan belonged to a previous Chinese dynasty, and thus it, and its gas, belongs to China. That's not possibility at this time, so China's interest is simply in a reliable supply of gas. As long as Turkmenistan fulfills its contractual obligations, I don't see any reason for China to be involved further, unless it wants to participate in building more infrastructure in Turkmenistan.

Russia, however, does regard Turkmenistan as part of its sphere of influence, so I can easily see Russian interference or bullying of Turkmenistan if Turkmenistan reduces Russia's leverage over Europe by supplying its own gas.

from your tone I can see you doubt our claims, one of the reasons for the current calm in Europe and Americas is one there is an America, and second the nations that can claim don't want to, like germany, or can't like Austria, while the ones like France and UK got what they wanted and could accept after WW2.

China on the other hand was so weak after Opium war that our power can no longer be extended that far and after a hundred plus years, it seems as if our original claim was out of this world.

The difference between Europe and Asia is we don't fall under the US and we are certainly not been reduced to the current Austria from the former Austrian Empire.

The other difference is the Chinese system, while in the West, people hold different titles like emperor of Austria, king of Hungary, and duke of this count of that, in effect it means the Austrian emperor accepts that his Austrian lands limits, but he just also owns the others, while Chinese system is all lands belongs to the Chinese emperor and he is not the king of this count of that, he is just one emperor of all China.

The different system, and the different result of WW2, as well as the last 200 years of Chaos has caused China to lose our strong hold on our own turf. Just ask yourself this, how can the Philippines that didn't even exist as a nation have a zone that extends further to China than China to it.

so u are ok of any other company work in Turkmenistan ?? like japan and south Korea ? until this day china didn't done anything wrong in turkmenistan what possible will destroy this relation if turkmenistan make good relation with usa will u play nasty ?? what is your red line ? are u ok with turkmens to sell gas to eu ??


btw cmon turkmenistan is a 4.5 million pop with 4th largest gas energy in the world unlike russia and iran they dont use energy so much this make it more likly to others to isolate the country

like russia and iran they buy the gas with very very cheap price from turkmenistan and sell it with high price to eu and turkey and when turkmenistan try to find new costumer like china they play nasty this was what they have done to stop turkmenistan to sell it gas to china

russia purposely close the pipeline which lead to it's distraction
ukraine said it wont buy gas from turkmenistan
iran even was far worse they simply said we will use your gas but we wont pay u !

this lead the country with zero income will u act like them if turkmenistan try to sell gas to eu ?

First of all, why would we intervene, if you got a better deal, take it, if you want new friends do it. Burma is starting to try to balance us and using US and India to have us up the offer. We feel that it's not worth our time if we do, so we'll just consolidate our existing projects, while going to other countries and invest. As it turns out, plenty of countries like our money and plenty want our expertise.

What Burma is finding out is, unlike the previous cold war, we don't want a pact, we don't want allies, we don't export ideology, we really don't care if you like us or not, we just want to improve our economy, and that can happen with anybody.
 

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