Japan hails U.K. plan to send aircraft carrier group to Asia

[White and Green with M/S]

When Saddam met PLO leaders Yasser Arafat in the late 80s, both talked about the recent US military operations in Panama, when warned about US military prowess by Arafat, Saddam simply replied. " Iraq isn't Panama"

See the similarities?

LOL you comparing 60s eras weapons of Iraq to latest PLAN/PLAAF weapon, kid how old you're???

 

[striver44]

LOL you comparing 60s eras weapons of Iraq to latest PLAN/PLAAF weapon, kid how old you're???

No, I'm just pointing the striking similarities of confidence between Iraq in the running up to Desert storm and kids boasting china power on PDF.

kid how old you're???

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[Nasr]

I feel sorry for the Japanese people who have their leadership in virtual servitude to the Zionist-America. Had Japan actually been an independent nation, they would have had great relationship of rapprochement with China and Korea. Together they could have been a dominant counter weight in the Pacific Ocean. Instead Japan and South Korea are good examples of what vassal states look like. From the onset of Western Colonial Powers reaching the shores of Japan, China, Indonesia, Korea and Vietnam, they have brought nothing misery, anarchy, destruction upon these nations. Like the Black Plague, the Western Colonists spread in all directions.

Anyone who ever approached the Noble Qur'an with sincerity, knows that the Noble Qur'an has spoken of this happening in history. Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj .... remember that? Descending upon humanity from every height and every slope, once they were released.

Lo and behold, the last 500 years of history bare witness to this very prophecy in the Noble Qur'an.

And blind as bats are those who fail to see this and learn.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

No, I'm just pointing the striking similarities of confidence between Iraq in the running up to Desert storm and kids boasting china power on PDF.

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SADAM was stupid without any technological advantages he think that he would take on allies, and don't compare China with Iraq, China is a different ballgame for west/USA, if USA want to attack China, they will think 10 times before attacking China

 

[striver44]

SADAM was stupid without any technological advantages he think that he would take on allies, and don't compare China with Iraq, China is a different ballgame for west/USA, if USA want to attack China, they will think 10 times before attacking China

Don't compare China with Iraq, China is a different ballgame

Don't compared Iraq with Panama, Iraq is a different ballgame

Same excuse. None of you are equal in power to the states even if you would like to think so.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Don't compare China with Iraq, China is a different ballgame

Don't compared Iraq with Panama, Iraq is a different ballgame

Same excuse. None of you are equal in power to the states even if you would like to think so.

And you're nobody to say that China will not survive if allies will attack China, China has all latest and advance tech in their hand Did Panama or Iraq had latest tech to sustain enemy like west, use your brian if you have, if not stop farting baselessly

 

[striver44]

And you're nobody to say that China will not survive if allies will attack China, China has all latest and advance tech in their hand Did Panama or Iraq had latest tech to sustain enemy like west, use your brian if you have, if not stop farting baselessly

contrary to popular belief, Iraq isn't the backward armed forces people like to portray in 1991.

in 1991, Iraq had arguably one of he most advanced and (probably) densest IADS not just in ME but the whole world.

in November 1990 and April 1991. The Iraqi IADS was a composite system which integrated European and Soviet search and acquisition radars, and a range of Soviet and European SAM and AAA systems, all tied together with a French built Kari C3 (Command/Control/Communications) network. While smaller than the now defunct Soviet system in central Europe (Western TVD), the system had a respectable capability and comparable if not higher density of SAM and AAA systems, with considerable redundancy in communications links and hardened C3 facilities.

Organisationally the IADS was split into three principal elements, a national fixed site strategic system using fighters and SA-2 and SA-3 systems covering key airfields and strategic air defence sites, operated by the Iraqi air force. This system was supplemented by Republican Guard operated SAM and AAA systems covering key nuclear, biological and chemical warfare facilities. Finally, the Iraqi army had its own mobile radar, SAM and AAA systems tasked with protecting both fixed sites and units in the field.

Geographically the national IADS was split into several large zones, in each of which were located central local C3 facilities, one or more large hardened airbases and a network of communications links to fixed radar and SAM sites. Control of the whole network was centred in hardened facilities in the vicinity of Baghdad. While microwave links were used extensively, these were backed up by landlines.

this was also supported by thousands of heavy AA and AAA guns, many are radar guided.

AWACS

contrary to popular belief, Saddam operated PGMs in its Air Forces arsenal (French AS301)

it's not as backward as you think

 

[Nan Yang]

Isn't it a bit too late? China already got back Hong Kong without firing a single shot... The acme of warfare.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

contrary to popular belief, Iraq isn't the backward armed forces people like to portray in 1991.

in 1991, Iraq had arguably one of he most advanced and (probably) densest IADS not just in ME but the whole world.




this was also supported by thousands of heavy AA and AAA guns, many are radar guided.

AWACS

contrary to popular belief, Saddam operated PGMs in its Air Forces arsenal (French AS301)

it's not as backward as you think

Mostly outdated tech from 60s Their IADs were a basic version of 60s era soviet SAMs, and not upgraded version Used by Soviets, They have only few AWACS of 60s also Iraqi air force were not using AIR SUPERIORITY like Su-27 or Mig-29 they had old interceptor like Mig-25/23/Mirage F-1 etc etc which is not comparable to Allied F-15/F-16/F-14/F-18/Mirage-2000 etc etc, and AAA was useless for Iraq even for radar guided AAA, and do tell us how many AAA gun is being used by USA/Russia/UK/France etc etc???

 

[striver44]

Mostly outdated tech from 60s Their IADs were a basic version of 60s era soviet SAMs, and not upgraded version Used by Soviets, They have only few AWACS of 60s also Iraqi air force were not using AIR SUPERIORITY like Su-27 or Mig-29 they had old interceptor like Mig-25/23/Mirage F-1 etc etc which is not comparable to Allied F-15/F-16/F-14/F-18/Mirage-2000 etc etc, and AAA was useless for Iraq even for radar guided AAA, and do tell us how many AAA gun is being used by USA/Russia/UK/France etc etc???

yes from the 60s,
by the time Desert storm commenced, this 60s weapons are at most 30 years old.

do you know how old is Soviet designed Su-27/J series jets already in 2021??? yes, that's right 40+ years old, not to mention the J-8s......

Iraqi IADS is the densest and most sophisticated in all of ME, either you like it or not, do you know they already use advanced computers to process data in their central command, how cool is that in the 90s???

again Iraq is not that backwards as you people like to portray.

although technology plays an important part, it's not the individual weapons that defeated them. but the aggregate firepower the US brought upon them, the one that is now in the making in the Indo-Pacific.

China is impressive, but still it's not going to even dent the US. the same way Iraq didn't dent the US during desert storm.

 

[KurtisBrian]

the creatures that stole the UK and the city of London sticking their evil noses into the business of others again. Hope everyone sanctions and blockades the UK. Let that Rottenchild thief go hungry.

Did not like living in Japan. Was certainly poisoned the entire time I was there. Evil nation of slavers.

once japan was asian super power . sad to see

but you also know that for far longer Japan was a backwards isolated land of borderline starvation and mass serfdom.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

yes from the 60s,
by the time Desert storm commenced, this 60s weapons are at most 30 years old.

do you know how old is Soviet designed Su-27/J series jets already in 2021??? yes, that's right 40+ years old, not to mention the J-8s......

Iraqi IADS is the densest and most sophisticated in all of ME, either you like it or not, do you know they already use advanced computers to process data in their central command, how cool is that in the 90s???

again Iraq is not that backwards as you people like to portray.

although technology plays an important part, it's not the individual weapons that defeated them. but the aggregate firepower the US brought upon them, the one that is now in the making in the Indo-Pacific.

China is impressive, but still it's not going to even dent the US. the same way Iraq didn't dent the US during desert storm.

Mostly analogue system they had but allied forces in first gulf war using digital systems, USAF had develop tactics against these Soviet IADs in Vietnam war in 60-70s so they knows these systems weakness
wow what a crap logic you have does have Iraq have long range Cruise missile, and don't talk about AS-30 its is/was a short range PGM and 1 country facing 12-14 enemy, and don't forget China have ICBM/IRBM to deter west/USA, Did Iraq have ICBM???, if Iraq had a ICBM in their hand i could assure you that Allied forces had have not attack Iraq in 90s

 

[KurtisBrian]

When? It depends on when the CCP are angry enough to invade Taiwan.

Legalities. Taiwan and China are still legally in a civil war. That means China can legally retake the island.

Even with lesser technology China certainly dented the USA in the Korean War. Chinese are NOT like ydna haplogroup J, Arabs. Chinese are industrious, strong, intelligent, highly advanced, coordinated, brave and tenacious.

ydna haplogroup O men are numerous and dominant over many of the best places on Earth because they are fcking tough.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

do you know how old is Soviet designed Su-27/J series jets already in 2021??? yes, that's right 40+ years old, not to mention the J-8s......

Su-27/J series yes these are 70s design but upgraded to latest systems/sensors and J-8/J-7 China 3rd or 4th line of defense last ditch weapons and they are slowly retiring them, there first line of defense is J-20/J-11 series/J-16/J-15/Su-30MKK/2

 

[striver44]

Chinese are industrious, strong, intelligent, highly advanced, coordinated, brave and tenacious.

Yes that explains all.