Japan firms ready for agriculture technology transfer for VN

[Aepsilons]

That's one of the big issues with TTP which is actually a troyan horse to impose American standards on those other countries.

Yes...and it's suppose to be a Partnership. But Obama says US should write the trade rules. LOL!

What is this an Autocracy or what? Japan and Vietnam should increase trade relations with China, but maintain our defense and strategic ground.

A win win situation.

 

[Carlosa]

Yes...and it's suppose to be a Partnership. But Obama says US should write the trade rules. LOL!

What is this an Autocracy or what? Japan and Vietnam should increase trade relations with China, but maintain our defense and strategic ground.

A win win situation.

Correct. There is not such a thing as a partnership with US, they rig the system in order to be in control and you know they have quite a bit of control over Japan and they are not shy to exercise that control when is needed. Their interest always come first. That's why countries like Vietnam have to be very careful to have a balanced position that avoids dependency.

Yes...and it's suppose to be a Partnership. But Obama says US should write the trade rules. LOL!

What is this an Autocracy or what? Japan and Vietnam should increase trade relations with China, but maintain our defense and strategic ground.

A win win situation.

To go a bit further, why are China and the BRICS creating alternative financial institutions?
Because the US is firmly in control of the FMI, World Bank, etc and they refuse to share control, so.............

 

[Aepsilons]

Correct. There is not such a thing as a partnership with US, they rig the system in order to be in control and you know they have quite a bit of control over Japan and they are not shy to exercise that control when is needed. Their interest always come first. That's why countries like Vietnam have to be very careful to have a balanced position that avoids dependency.

Vietnam needs to pursue a clear and independent policy and under no circumstance allow US bases in its soil. Learn from us Japanese --- never start a global war (something we still are paying for even some 70 years later) , never invite foreign forces into one's soils -- for us it was no choice of our own --- it was imposed on us as per the terms of unconditional surrender of the Japanese Empire.

Always read the fine lines with US agreements , their diplomats are shrewd and will exploit any weakness. To their favor.

Correct. There is not such a thing as a partnership with US, they rig the system in order to be in control and you know they have quite a bit of control over Japan and they are not shy to exercise that control when is needed. Their interest always come first. That's why countries like Vietnam have to be very careful to have a balanced position that avoids dependency.



To go a bit further, why are China and the BRICS creating alternative financial institutions?
Because the US is firmly in control of the FMI, World Bank, etc and they refuse to share control, so.............

Correct. I admit at least with these Chinese led institutions there will be representative say on the members. Even with the AIIB, there's nothing wrong with it. Did you see how Obama publicly rebuked the British government? You don't do that to a long time ally and partner especially when that said country is only following economic interest. It's not like as if the UK abandoned America, the UK is still a member of the IMF, WB, NATO. Even imposed sanctions on Russia as per US requests.

Still that is not enough ?

As for Japan, I don't know. Sometimes I'm infuriated how America has us by the balls and loves to squeeze it whenever she can to influence our policies. Pardon my French, amigo, but seriously, $hit!

 

[Carlosa]

Vietnam needs to pursue a clear and independent policy and under no circumstance allow US bases in its soil. Learn from us Japanese --- never start a global war (something we still are paying for even some 70 years later) , never invite foreign forces into one's soils -- for us it was no choice of our own --- it was imposed on us as per the terms of unconditional surrender of the Japanese Empire.

Always read the fine lines with US agreements , their diplomats are shrewd and will exploit any weakness. To their favor.

Totally true. There are many forms of world domination; the traditional form was based on military power, occupation, etc. We can say that's the typical style in effect until WW2.

After WW2, a certain country changed the way to do it and has mastered the process.
Now control is done by controlling the international financial system and its institutions and by having their currency as the world reserve currency. Isn't it nice to just print money and buy anything you like with it?

Add to that cultural domination by virtue of movies, television, etc which bring the lifestyle and culture of that country to everybody in the planet, etc, etc, these are just a few examples.

Correct. I admit at least with these Chinese led institutions there will be representative say on the members. Even with the AIIB, there's nothing wrong with it. Did you see how Obama publicly rebuked the British government? You don't do that to a long time ally and partner especially when that said country is only following economic interest. It's not like as if the UK abandoned America, the UK is still a member of the IMF, WB, NATO. Even imposed sanctions on Russia as per US requests.

Still that is not enough ?

As for Japan, I don't know. Sometimes I'm infuriated how America has us by the balls and loves to squeeze it whenever she can to influence our policies. Pardon my French, amigo, but seriously, $hit!

Good, you can see that, now, what happens when a country opposes that system?
All those elements of control get used against that country, their economy can get recked by those financial instruments, speculation against their currency, oh so many ways, color revolutions, etc, etc. The mainstream press is a corporate unit that follows the official line, otherwise its bad for business.

Do you see where I'm going? Translation, Ukraine, proxy war to weaken the rising power that dares to defy the hegemon power. Just open your mind and check the possibilities and you'll find a lot of things that will make you think a lot.

 

[Aepsilons]

Totally true. There are many forms of world domination; the traditional form was based on military power, occupation, etc. We can say that the typical style in effect until WW2.

After WW2, a certain country changed the way to do it and has mastered the process.
Now control is done by controlling the international financial system and its institutions and by having their currency as the world reserve currency. Isn't it nice to just print money and buy anything you like with it?

Add to that cultural domination by virtue of movies, television, etc which bring the lifestyle and culture of that country to everybody in the planet, etc, etc, these are just a few examples.

Very true my friend, very true. And I personally hate the American thinking of "If you're not with us then you're against us".

Seriously, there's no room for pragmatism with that kind of partner. In fact that is a very dangerous policy to follow.

 

[Armstrong]

Very true my friend, very true. And I personally hate the American thinking of "If you're not with us then you're against us".

Seriously, there's no room for pragmatism with that kind of partner. In fact that is a very dangerous policy to follow.

Speaking against Uncle Sam san !

Thats what superpowers do....after all they didn't get where they are by being good all the time !

 

[Viva_Viet]

What is this an Autocracy or what? Japan and Vietnam should increase trade relations with China, but maintain our defense and strategic ground.

A win win situation.

No, we want to stop trading with CN, thats why we join the TPP, unlike JP or others TPP member who will face a hard punishment if quiting TPP, VN can quit the deal whenerver we want if we see no benefit, so TPP is the good deal to expand our market with little risk.

For VN-JP reationship , I think it's not so good now , the Govt finnaly admit that ODA bring more risk than benefit, so JP must stop playing dirty ODA trick to VN first if you want to improve the relationship with VN.

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Tien Sa Port developer turns down Official Development Assistance
Last update: 17:00 | 31/03/2015

Infrastructure developers prefer seeking capital from domestic and foreign commercial loans than official development assistance (ODA), which is in the long run more expensive than people think.

“If we cannot find capital for the Tien Sa Port expansion project, I will step down,” said Nguyen Huu Sia, general director of the Da Nang Port JSC when asked if he could arrange capital for the important project.

Sia refused to borrow capital from Japan’s ODA to implement the project on expanding Tien Sa Port in Da Nang City, saying that his company would seek capital itself.

Sia understands why the expansion project is important to Da Nang City. Huynh Duc Tho, Da Nang’s Mayor, told him that he must commit to find capital from other sources if he refuses ODA.

With a rapid annual growth rate of 10-20 percent, the volume of goods expected to go through Tien Sa Port in the next five or six years would be 10 million tons per annum. This means that if the port cannot be expanded, it would get overloaded.

Sia said that it is now easy to seek capital for investment projects, if the projects are feasible.

“No need to worry about capital mobilization. Capitalists would offer capital at reasonable costs, provided that you can use the capital effectively,” he explained.

Nguyen Thu, chair of the Da Nang Port JSC, said the company needs VND1 trillion for the second phase of the project, while the company itself has 40-50 percent of capital needed.

Thu said Da Nang Port JSC refused ODA because of the anticipated risks from the exchange rate fluctuations. If he borrowed capital from ODA, the project would only kick off in 2016. Meanwhile, capital from domestic sources may allow it to begin in 2015.

A finance expert said he agrees with Sia that it was not difficult to find capital now, so it would be better to ease the reliance on foreign sourced capital and ODA, which is believed to have latent risks.

English - VietNamNet

 

[Carlosa]

Very true my friend, very true. And I personally hate the American thinking of "If you're not with us then you're against us".

Seriously, there's no room for pragmatism with that kind of partner. In fact that is a very dangerous policy to follow.

I tell you this, if you just open your mind to certain possibilities and then you seek out the truth by going to the alternative press, and of course you have to be mindful that everybody has an agenda, but still, you will find that many things are not quite the way you used to think about. Ok, I stop here, I'm just giving you food for thought.

 

[Aepsilons]

Speaking against Uncle Sam san !

Thats what superpowers do....after all they didn't get where they are by being good all the time !

Yes but it makes it difficult for us to engage our own partners because we have to be mindful of what the Americans think. And they do try to influence our rapport with China and Russia.

Do you know that the US invited and recommended that Japan should do active patrols deep inside the SCS? Do you know what this would have done to the Japanese-Chinese relations? Lol.

Luckily our Ministry of Defende politely declined to respond to the US. We will not pursue a policy that will instigate or further destabilize not only Southeast Asian but most importantly our very own East Asian region.

 

[xenon54 out]

Speaking against Uncle Sam san !

Thats what superpowers do....after all they didn't get where they are by being good all the time !

Defenting the great United Satan of America, kuffar puppet.

 

[Carlosa]

Very true my friend, very true. And I personally hate the American thinking of "If you're not with us then you're against us".

Seriously, there's no room for pragmatism with that kind of partner. In fact that is a very dangerous policy to follow.

Yes, that thing of "with us or against us" was really stupid, but when you understand the type of people that are actually in power or have a great influence like the neocons, etc, then its nothing to be surprised about. Look what they did in Iraq, they messed up the whole region, the Iraqi army officials that were fired when the Iraqi army was disbanded are the ones that direct ISIS operations. How much damaged did that create and will create? But before the war, many people that understand the middle east warned Bush about all that, but to not avail, these people don't listen, they just charge ahead totally blind and do their thing.

 

[Aepsilons]

Defenting the great United Satan of America, kuffar puppet.

 

[Carlosa]

No, we want to stop trading with CN, thats why we join the TPP, unlike JP or others TPP member who will face a hard punishment if quiting TPP, VN can quit the deal whenerver we want if we see no benefit, so TPP is the good deal to expand our market with little risk.

For VN-JP reationship , I think it's not so good now , the Govt finnaly admit that ODA bring more risk than benefit, so JP must stop playing dirty ODA trick to VN first if you want to improve the relationship with VN.

English - VietNamNet

TPP needs to be negotiated so that it can be fair for Vietnam. Right now some things in TPP are not good for Vietnam.

 

[xenon54 out]

I wonder how many people didnt get the sarcasm, this is PDF after all.

 

[Viva_Viet]

That's one of the big issues with TPP which is actually a troyan horse to impose American standards on those other countries.

Other TPP members ( except VN) are just US's vassal states, US has imposed whatever they want on those nations for long time already.

VN welcome the TPP and hope it will bring more benefit to us