Italy reduces F-35 orders to save money for welfare and social service

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1089914624424767493

 

[AbuzarIlyas]

Price of one F-35 is enough to pay handsome salaries to 25-30,000 skilled gradute workers for whole year to feed their families.

 

[Ultima Thule]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1089914624424767493

So @undertakerwwefan ????

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Price of one F-35 is enough to pay handsome salaries to 25-30,000 skilled gradute workers for whole year to feed their families.

100,000,000/25000=4000

Maybe 2500-3000 workers

 

[MMM-E]

Turks spent $35 billion for 3,9 million Syrian refugees in Turkey

$35 billion = 410 F-35A Fighter Jets


btw Europe should pray for Turkey because of Turkey saved Europe from millions of Syrian refugees

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

btw Europe should pray for Turkey because of Turkey saved Europe from millions of Syrian refugees

What? No one asked Turkey to take in any refugees. You do that. That's up to you.

 

[The SC]

The UAE and KSA can make up for the lost numbers..

 

[MMM-E]

What? No one asked Turkey to take in any refugees. You do that. That's up to you.

are you sure ?
The EU always asked Turkey to take Syrian Refugees because of The US,The EU and Israel have their own dirty plan in Syria ( to create terror coridor in N.Syria ) and Pkk/Ypg - ISIS terrorists forced millions of Syrians to move from their lands to Turkey

but soon the Turkish Armed Forces will clean Manbij , Ayn Al Arab , Talabyad , etc from terrorists and Syrian Refugees will return to their lands in N.Syria


btw Syrian refugees wanted to go to Europe via Turkey
and Europe so begged Turkey not to open Turkey-European border

and The controversial EU refugee agreement with Turkey has been running since 2016

 

[zectech]

Two governments in one: reducing the F-35s was the Southern Italian (Five Star Movement) decision making, save the money for social programs for the poor.

And the warmongering celtic north of neo-nazis Lega 'Nord', wants to stop the Africans from coming into Italy.

Five Star Movement, with loyality in the south and central parts of Italy should have called for new elections rather than partner with racists in the North.

Honestly, what nation is going to bomb Italy? No need for huge NATO budget.

Italy is part of the EU, NATO, and no enemies around them. Gaddafi wanted peace. Libya is for the Amerikans and the French to pay for rebuilding, at Libyans directive.

Turkey's budget is many billions less and is for a larger land mass in a far more dangerous position in the world, and Turkey has a larger population too, 20 more million people.

Italy should form an alliance with China and an alliance with Russia, while staying in NATO. It is the Italian form of diplomacy.

Italy should form a friendship with Erdogan and buy Turkish made arms.

Turks spent $35 billion for 3,9 million Syrian refugees in Turkey

$35 billion = 410 F-35A Fighter Jets


btw Europe should pray for Turkey because of Turkey saved Europe from millions of Syrian refugees

Bill the Clinton Foundation.


Also bill the Nobel committee for giving Obama a Peace Prize.

 

[MMM-E]

Italy should form a friendship with Erdogan and buy Turkish made arms.

Italy develops its own weapons with the UK and France

maybe SOM-J Cruise Missile for F-35s
TAI ATAK-2 heavy Attack Helicopter to replace A-129s
TAI TFX 5th gen Fighter Jet to replace Eurofighters after 2035
and AKINCI UCAV

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

btw Syrian refugees wanted to go to Europe via Turkey
and Europe so begged Turkey not to open Turkey-European border

EU border guards can shoot any refugee who try to go to EU illegally.

 

[zectech]

Italy develops its own weapons with the UK and France

maybe TAI ATAK-2 heavy Attack Helicopter to replace A-129s
TAI TFX 5th gen Fighter Jet to replace Eurofighters after 2035
and AKINCI UCAV

I was suggesting to get away from over-priced European arms and buy more economical Turkish arms.

For instance don't buy this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAMM_(missile_family)#Operators

Buy the Turkish SAMs that will be coming on line in the next ten years.

If the TAI TF-X is under 60 million euros, then buy them too.

EU border guards can shoot any refugee who try to go to EU illegally.

That is not the type of society we want to live in.

When China bombs all Latin American cities to rubble, China then would have to open their borders up for all the refugees, unless they bombed out of hate. And will leave the Latin Americans to suffer starvation and death.

Can't bomb a country for imperialist reasons. Can't bomb a country for fake democratic reasons. Can't bomb a country and leave the people to starve. Can't be like Amerika and bomb a country for imperial reasons, fake democratic reasons* (*see for instance Sisi being a CIA agent and thus not being bombed), and bomb Syria and then tell Syrians they can't flee.

Turkey sided with the Imperialist over a small dispute with the Assads over the PKK. I would still send the bill of 35 billion to the Clintons, the Obamas and to the Washington regime.

 

[MMM-E]

If the TAI TF-X is under 60 million euros, then buy them too.

Turkish Weapons are not cheap .... because of Turkish weapons have high quality NATO standart
Pakistan buys 30 TAI T-129 Attack Helicopters for $1,5 billion


and TAI TFX minimum $100 million (expected) ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAI_TF-X

 

[zectech]

Turkish Weapons are not cheap .... because of Turkish weapons have high quality NATO standart
Pakistan buys 30 TAI T-129 Attack Helicopters for $1,5 billion


and TAI TFX minimum $100 million (expected) ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAI_TF-X

Then economy high quality weapons are Chinese:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_FC-31

Italians can wait until 2025 to buy them.

And HQ-9s instead of british SAMs.

 

[dBSPL]

Turkey's budget is many billions less and is for a larger land mass in a far more dangerous position in the world, and Turkey has a larger population too, 20 more million people.

Is there compulsory military service in Italy? Should be personnel expenses creating the main difference that makes up the budget difference. Turkey also has a highly advanced military factories and logistics system. The costs of back services are very low because they are mainly based on domestic labor and manufacturing. Of course, Italy is a highly developed country in this scope Italy but the labor cost difference is quite high.

There are quite deep ties between Italy and Turkey. Billions of euros Projects are ongoing in both the defense industry and civilian areas .We're at a better spot than 20 years ago. But we have a much greater potential.