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If the Kurds are right, the Middle East will be coping with an aggressive al-Qaeda state in its midst for the foreseeable future. Kurdistan will consolidate its position as a de facto, if not de jure, independent state. And the Obama administration’s strategy of re-creating a unified Iraq under a strong central government will, like its previous Middle East schemes, prove a mirage.

Even if the Kurds were more enthusiastic, the prospect of a unity government in Baghdad would be questionable. Standing in the way is Maliki, who appears to have the backing of Iran as well as the Assad government in Syria. This axis of Shiite hardliners appears set on battling the Sunni al-Qaeda forces without concessions to the Kurds or moderate Sunnis. A broadly supported Shiite alternative to Maliki has yet to appear.

A political fix might be possible if Iran concludes that Maliki must go. But even then, Iraqi forces are unlikely to liquidate the al-Qaeda state, say the Kurds. “We can’t do it alone,” Hussein said flatly. “This is a terrorist organization. They have thousands of fighters. They have got sophisticated American weapons. We are talking about rockets, artillery, tanks, even helicopters. I don’t think with the current Iraqi army they can liberate that area. And our [forces] are putting our priority on defending our area, so we can’t do it.”

Hussein said it would take “collective action” by “a regional coalition” to eliminate the al-Qaeda state. Then he grimly ran down the list of potential actors: Iran, he said, would limit itself to defending Baghdad and the Shiite Holy places. Turkey, which chose not to intervene in Syria, would be even more reluctant to fight in Iraq. And the United States? “This government is not going to send troops.”

“We have got a new reality,” said Hussein. “We have got three states in one in Iraq. We have a new state between us in Kurdistan and Baghdad. So we cannot go back to the past.”

Obama’s ‘unity government’ plan in Iraq is just a mirage - The Washington Post
 
Division of Iraq was on the table even before the invasion of Iraq by Bishop George Bush. Bishop George Bush was also warned that minorities specially Iraqi Christians will face persecution by hard liners but Bishop George Bush brushed aside all of this because he said God told him to go to war.
 
and "their" being who ? ...the US/NATO, ........"Zionists" ?

The US supported Iraqi kurds since 1991, so yes - this was bound to happen, the best Iraq can bet on is a lose coalition with some power in Baghdad - but will be an absolute mess considering how the Iraqi Sunni's are with other communities, especially Iraqi Shia's and (vice versa) or other Iraqi minorities.
 
imo IS will temporary stay, but the US will try to set up a permanent Kurdistan. This IS happening gives the KRG a justifiable reason to proclaim independence (perhaps planned and schemed before by the US). just ask yourself who the winners are in the region; Kurds, but especially Israel. Some of Israel's politicians (liebermann) already stated support for an independent Kurdistan in the past and assisted training the peshmerga. their ultimate goal seems to try to destabilize Turkey and Iran and also use Kurdistan as a stepping stone against Iran, because it's currently complicated and tricky for Israel to carry out strikes deep in Iran due the big distance. plus an indebted Kurdistan will always be a loyal subject to the US and Israel. you can already see the slimy rosy words about Kurds in the American media.
 
imo IS will temporary stay, but the US will try to set up a permanent Kurdistan. This IS happening gives the KRG a justifiable reason to proclaim independence (perhaps planned and schemed before by the US). just ask yourself who the winners are in the region; Kurds, but especially Israel. Some of Israel's politicians (liebermann) already stated support for an independent Kurdistan in the past and assisted training the peshmerga. their ultimate goal seems to try to destabilize Turkey and Iran and also use Kurdistan as a stepping stone against Iran, because it's currently complicated and tricky for Israel to carry out strikes deep in Iran due the big distance. plus an indebted Kurdistan will always be a loyal subject to the US and Israel. you can already see the slimy rosy words about Kurds in the American media.

I agree, for all intents and purposes Iraqi Kurdistan is here to stay as a separate autonomous province even if IS fails to maintain its Islamic caliphate. IS made sure of that.
 
imo IS will temporary stay, but the US will try to set up a permanent Kurdistan. This IS happening gives the KRG a justifiable reason to proclaim independence (perhaps planned and schemed before by the US). just ask yourself who the winners are in the region; Kurds, but especially Israel. Some of Israel's politicians (liebermann) already stated support for an independent Kurdistan in the past and assisted training the peshmerga. their ultimate goal seems to try to destabilize Turkey and Iran and also use Kurdistan as a stepping stone against Iran, because it's currently complicated and tricky for Israel to carry out strikes deep in Iran due the big distance. plus an indebted Kurdistan will always be a loyal subject to the US and Israel. you can already see the slimy rosy words about Kurds in the American media.
It is just pre game for attack on Iran and everythhing that will follow from that. I don't know if IS will stay or not but remember IS is not just IS. They have local support from Sunni who are moderates but support radical IS to get rid of Iranian influence in Iraq. AboutUS supporting Kurdistan. Hell, even Erdogan supports KRG. Without Turkish consent there won't be Kurdistan. If it is a good idea for us is another question. But I think we could use IS or other Sunni in Levant as stick against KRG. In that sense Iranians don't have any rods they can use against KRG. It seems that Turkey supports US plan of attacking Iran. At least they are playing along until now.
 
AboutUS supporting Kurdistan. Hell, even Erdogan supports KRG. Without Turkish consent there won't be Kurdistan.
the thing is, stupid govt supports krg, but they seem to miss the point that a Kurdistan wont stop at an independent krg. they think they are on the good side with Kurds if they support krg. if you were an anti-Turk, wouldnt you encourage that Kurdistan to expand even more at the cost of Turkey (and Iran, Syria)? Turkey should stop all support and crucial investment in krg and let them fight it out with IS.
 

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