Is the occupation of Manipur by India stands illegal according to international law?

[Leishangthem]

Signing of the Standstill Agreement by Ningthou Bodhchandra without the approval of the Manipur State Council in 1947 and without ratification by the Manipur State Legislative Assembly under pressure from the Government of India was an illegal.

There is no such provision in the Indian Independence Act 1947 and India (Provisional Constitution) Order 1947 to merge and annex the acceding States who are acceding to the Dominion of India (now Union of India) by the Standstill Agreement. The acceding States are sovereign States. The acceding State is a part or unit of the Union not a part or territory of India. The Union is a political body.

The signing of the Standstill Agreement by Ningthou Bodhchandra and acceptance by the Governor General were illegal and invalid in the eyes of international law.

Manipur was already an independent nation and the Ningthou (king) had no authority to ratify the merger with India, that power lies within Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly; Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly never concurred to the merger with India.

Manipur got her independence 3 years before India itself and had derived its own constitution before India's own. Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA)-1947 is still active and it couldn't be removed by Indian constitution.

 

[Imran Khan]

who cares law . hand us over some land and then keep saying its illegal . its all game of power man

 

[American Pakistani]

Not only Manipur but entire north east looks completely different compared to Indians, in their looks, culture, language, geography, etc. They look like South East Asians.

 

[Leishangthem]

Not only Manipur but entire north east looks completely different compared to Indians, in their looks, culture, language, geography, etc. They look like South East Asians.

Yes,NE people are central asian mongoloid and look somewhat between East asian & South east asian in general.
The people,culture and religious faith are completely different than mainland India.

 

[crankthatskunk]

@Maitham , thanks for the information. I never knew this. I know a little about the Kashmir issue that the Raja in Kashmir acceded Kashmir to India. The scenario in Manipur looks exactly like Kashmir.
I think the Kashmir document of accession is also not valid under the Law. Its signatures were back dated by a day, which makes it illegal and unenforceable in the Law.
India used a reverse logic to accede Junagarh state in the Gujrat Region of India.
India is not a natural country, it is amalgamation of different states, most of which were independent states before the English occupied them and then created the country of India. India is bound to unhinged sooner or later, guaranteed.
Indian politicians know this fact, that's why they are inclined to use terror and oppression as their tools.

 

[Shankranthi]

Yes,NE people are central asian mongoloid and look somewhat between East asian & South east asian in general.
The people,culture and religious faith are completely different than mainland India.

Funny you should say that.

When you heard about Northeast States we generally think of those small eyes, flat nose and fair complexion Mongoloid faces.

But these are new visitors who showed up to enrol as Voters in one Assembly Constituency of Manipur.

Manipur was the last bastion of Hinduism in the almost-thoroughly Christianized Northeast. Now being invaded by lakhs of PAN-card & Aadhaar-card holding, burka & skullcap-searing Bangladeshis & Rohingyas - imported by local MLAs for the sake of votes. Soon will be New Bangladesh.

They an now enjoy the "benefits" of opposing the Citizenship bill for Non Muslims. Karma is a bitch.

The signing of the Standstill Agreement on 11 August, 1947 was illegal

Signing of the Standstill Agreement by Ningthou Bodhchandra without the approval of the Manipur State Council in 1947 and without ratification by the Manipur State Legislative Assembly under pressure from the Government of India was an illegal.

There is no such provision in the Indian Independence Act 1947 and India (Provisional Constitution) Order 1947 to merge and annex the acceding States who are acceding to the Dominion of India (now Union of India) by the Standstill Agreement. The acceding States are sovereign States. The acceding State is a part or unit of the Union not a part or territory of India. The Union is a political body.

The signing of the Standstill Agreement by Ningthou Bodhchandra and acceptance by the Governor General were illegal and invalid in the eyes of international law.

Manipur was already an independent nation and the Ningthou (king) had no authority to ratify the merger with India, that power lies within Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly; Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly never concurred to the merger with India.

Manipur got her independence 3 years before India itself and had derived its own constitution before India's own. Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA)-1947 is still active and it couldn't be removed by Indian constitution.

JAC demand for inclusion of Bengali as native people of Manipur. Just see the man and those sitting behind him. Their demand shows they are from somewhere. Wake up Northeast leaders, else you are doomed.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Yes,NE people are central asian mongoloid and look somewhat between East asian & South east asian in general.
The people,culture and religious faith are completely different than mainland India.

Central Asian? Do you know where central Asia is boi?

 

[Jackdaws]

The signing of the Standstill Agreement on 11 August, 1947 was illegal

Signing of the Standstill Agreement by Ningthou Bodhchandra without the approval of the Manipur State Council in 1947 and without ratification by the Manipur State Legislative Assembly under pressure from the Government of India was an illegal.

There is no such provision in the Indian Independence Act 1947 and India (Provisional Constitution) Order 1947 to merge and annex the acceding States who are acceding to the Dominion of India (now Union of India) by the Standstill Agreement. The acceding States are sovereign States. The acceding State is a part or unit of the Union not a part or territory of India. The Union is a political body.

The signing of the Standstill Agreement by Ningthou Bodhchandra and acceptance by the Governor General were illegal and invalid in the eyes of international law.

Manipur was already an independent nation and the Ningthou (king) had no authority to ratify the merger with India, that power lies within Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly; Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly never concurred to the merger with India.

Manipur got her independence 3 years before India itself and had derived its own constitution before India's own. Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA)-1947 is still active and it couldn't be removed by Indian constitution.

If it was signed on 11th August 1947 - neither Dominion of India, nor Union of India existed because Dominion of India came into being on 15th August 1947.

So it was signed by British India which had suzerainty over Manipur? That doesn't make sense - by its very definition, suzerainty means British India controlled the foreign policy of Manipur. So did they sign and counter sign themselves?

 

[Leishangthem]

Funny you should say that.

When you heard about Northeast States we generally think of those small eyes, flat nose and fair complexion Mongoloid faces.

But these are new visitors who showed up to enrol as Voters in one Assembly Constituency of Manipur.

Manipur was the last bastion of Hinduism in the almost-thoroughly Christianized Northeast. Now being invaded by lakhs of PAN-card & Aadhaar-card holding, burka & skullcap-searing Bangladeshis & Rohingyas - imported by local MLAs for the sake of votes. Soon will be New Bangladesh.

They an now enjoy the "benefits" of opposing the Citizenship bill for Non Muslims. Karma is a bitch.



JAC demand for inclusion of Bengali as native people of Manipur. Just see the man and those sitting behind him. Their demand shows they are from somewhere. Wake up Northeast leaders, else you are doomed.

To Meiteis and manipuris , bengali muslim or bengali hindoo ,they are all the same,none of them are wanted in manipur.CAB bill would have opened flood gates of bengalee on manipur which is already bearing the brunt of mainland Indian immigrants.Manipur is trying to acquire ST status for indigenous meetei and prevent non locals from owning land and this type of infiltrations. All indo aryans are outsiders and infiltrators to natives, regardless of their faith.
BTW the native religion of manipur is Sanamahi ,hinduism is just a side religion which is apparently getting more and more unpopular each passing day.

 

[Shankranthi]

To Meiteis and manipuris bengali muslim or hindoo ,they are all the same,none of them are wanted in manipur.CAB bill would have opened flood gates of bengalee on manipur which is already bearing the brunt of mainland indian immigrants.Manipur is trying to acquire ST status for indigenous meetei and prevent non locals from owning land and this type of infiltrations. All indo aryans are outsiders and infiltrators to natives, regardless of their faith.
BTW the native religion of manipur is Sanamahi ,hinduism is just a side religion which is apparently getting more and more unpopular each passing day.

lol.... I am not going to waste my time with a pakistani false flagger.

Hindus are still 62% of Manipur. But the local politicians are making way for Bangladeshis and Rohigyas and create a vote bank. Same as what was done with Assam.

 

[Leishangthem]

If it was signed on 11th August 1947 - neither Dominion of India, nor Union of India existed because Dominion of India came into being on 15th August 1947.

So it was signed by British India which had suzerainty over Manipur? That doesn't make sense - by its very definition, suzerainty means British India controlled the foreign policy of Manipur. So did they sign and counter sign themselves?

WTF!You can't make theory of your own like that.....
British didn't annex Manipur into joining india !!Manipur was annexed by GOI which coordinated the whole acquisition of NE.
Manipur and India were both sovereign and independent countries before merger to India. Hence, the agreement between two sovereign and independent countries should have been signed according to international law i.e free from duress or coercion or force. Therefore the Government of India was violating the international law in forcing and putting the Maharajah Bodhchandra under house arrest from 17 September to 21 September, 1949 in order to extract his signature.

British themselves helped in creation of constitution of Manipur before India's own constitution.The Constitution Making Committee led by its Chairman F.F. Pearson was inaugurated on 10 March 1947. The members were- 1. F.F. Pearson, Chairman 2. S. Somorendro Singh, 3. Md. Kazi Walliullah (representing the Darbar) 4. L.M. Ibungohal Singh (Chief Court). 5.. Bijoy Singh (Jiribam), 6. A. Ibotombi Singh (alias Minaketon)(non-official), 7.H.Dwijamani Dey Sharma,8.Dr. L. Leiren Singh, 9. L. Jogeswar Singh,10. S. Krishnamohon Singh 11.Mera Jatra, (five representatives of the valley), 12.Daiho, 13.Thangkhopao Kipgen, 14.Tiangkham, 15. Teba Kilong, and 16.R. Suisa, (five representatives of the hills)“. Further the same source added “The Manipur State Constitution Act, 1947 was passed on 8 May, 1947 and the Constitution was adopted on 26 July 1947. The passing of the Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA), 1947 in May before the date of 3rd June 1947 is something very unpleasant to those working for the Merger of Manipur to India. After adoption of the Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA), 1947, the Maharajah became the Constitutional Ruler when he devolved his powers to the newly established Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly. He was no longer the absolute monarch to be able to retify the merger documents.

The British knew GOI may try to coerce Manipur into joining their union ,hence they included special clause to prevent GOI from abrogating it-
The section 9 (5) of Indian Independence Act, 1947 says “ No order shall be made under this section, by the Governor of : any Province, after the appointed day, or, by the Governor-General, after the thirty-first day of March, nineteen hundred and forty-eight, or such earlier date as may be determined, in the case of either Dominion,. by ‘any law of the Legislature of that Dominion.”. Thus the retrospective effect of any order made under section 9 of the Indian Independence Act, 1947 could not remove the Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA), 1947.

The section 8 of the Instrument of Accession says clearly “ Nothing in this instrument affects the continuance of my sovereignty in and over the state or save as provided by or under the Instrument, the exercise of any power, authority and rights now enjoyed by me as Ruler of this State or validity of any law at present in force in this State.” This means that Manipur was still enjoying the sovereignty and the Manipur State Constitution Act-1947 enacted on 1 January, 1947 was still in force.

“Where in any case circumstances arise which prevent the proper operation in law or in spirit of this Constitution Act, the Council (Manipur State Council /MSC under the Maharajah ) of Manipur may at their discretion refer the matter for decision to such authority outside the State as may be decided hereafter and the decision of that authority shall be binding.” The British stationed in Manipur could sense that the Government of India may try to abrogate or dissolve the MSCA-1947 and the Manipuris may not be able to protect this MSCA-1947. That is why they have inserted this Section -57.

 

[Jackdaws]

WTF!You can't make theory of your own like that.....
British didn't annex Manipur into joining india !!Manipur was annexed by GOI which coordinated the whole acquisition of NE.
Manipur and India were both sovereign and independent countries before merger to India. Hence, the agreement between two sovereign and independent countries should have been signed according to international law i.e free from duress or coercion or force. Therefore the Government of India was violating the international law in forcing and putting the Maharajah Bodhchandra under house arrest from 17 September to 21 September, 1949 in order to extract his signature.

British themselves helped in creation of constitution of Manipur before India's own constitution.The Constitution Making Committee led by its Chairman F.F. Pearson was inaugurated on 10 March 1947. The members were- 1. F.F. Pearson, Chairman 2. S. Somorendro Singh, 3. Md. Kazi Walliullah (representing the Darbar) 4. L.M. Ibungohal Singh (Chief Court). 5.. Bijoy Singh (Jiribam), 6. A. Ibotombi Singh (alias Minaketon)(non-official), 7.H.Dwijamani Dey Sharma,8.Dr. L. Leiren Singh, 9. L. Jogeswar Singh,10. S. Krishnamohon Singh 11.Mera Jatra, (five representatives of the valley), 12.Daiho, 13.Thangkhopao Kipgen, 14.Tiangkham, 15. Teba Kilong, and 16.R. Suisa, (five representatives of the hills)“. Further the same source added “The Manipur State Constitution Act, 1947 was passed on 8 May, 1947 and the Constitution was adopted on 26 July 1947. The passing of the Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA), 1947 in May before the date of 3rd June 1947 is something very unpleasant to those working for the Merger of Manipur to India. After adoption of the Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA), 1947, the Maharajah became the Constitutional Ruler when he devolved his powers to the newly established Manipur State Council and Manipur State Legislative Assembly. He was no longer the absolute monarch to be able to retify the merger documents.

The British knew GOI may try to coerce Manipur into joining their union ,hence they included special clause to prevent GOI from abrogating it-
The section 9 (5) of Indian Independence Act, 1947 says “ No order shall be made under this section, by the Governor of : any Province, after the appointed day, or, by the Governor-General, after the thirty-first day of March, nineteen hundred and forty-eight, or such earlier date as may be determined, in the case of either Dominion,. by ‘any law of the Legislature of that Dominion.”. Thus the retrospective effect of any order made under section 9 of the Indian Independence Act, 1947 could not remove the Manipur State Constitution Act (MSCA), 1947.

The section 8 of the Instrument of Accession says clearly “ Nothing in this instrument affects the continuance of my sovereignty in and over the state or save as provided by or under the Instrument, the exercise of any power, authority and rights now enjoyed by me as Ruler of this State or validity of any law at present in force in this State.” This means that Manipur was still enjoying the sovereignty and the Manipur State Constitution Act-1947 enacted on 1 January, 1947 was still in force.

“Where in any case circumstances arise which prevent the proper operation in law or in spirit of this Constitution Act, the Council (Manipur State Council /MSC under the Maharajah ) of Manipur may at their discretion refer the matter for decision to such authority outside the State as may be decided hereafter and the decision of that authority shall be binding.” The British stationed in Manipur could sense that the Government of India may try to abrogate or dissolve the MSCA-1947 and the Manipuris may not be able to protect this MSCA-1947. That is why they have inserted this Section -57.

Wtf. Or not. You first need to learn the difference between sovereignty and suzerainty. British Crown had suzerainty over all Princely States. This gave Brits exclusive rights to decide on foreign policy and communication. An entity that does not exist can't sign a Standstill Agreement. Dominion of India did on exist on August 11 1947.

 

[Leishangthem]

lol.... I am not going to waste my time with a pakistani false flagger.

Hindus are still 62% of Manipur. But the local politicians are making way for Bangladeshis and Rohigyas and create a vote bank. Same as what was done with Assam.

The so called 62% hindu are all meiteis which actually have their own traditional religion "sanamahi" ,meetei have adopted parts of Vaishavism ,what they follow is very different than your traditional Hinduism.Meeteis maybe hindu or christian but all of them are sanamahi first and foremost.
Meeteis follows hinduism like how japanese follows a version of buddhism along with their traditional religion Shintoism.
Sanamahis is like Shintoism or Taoism rather than Hindusim,it's more spiritual rather than idol worship and it involves ancestor worship,elemental worship . Meiteis worship a dragon deity as their supreme god.Those are not your typical hindu.

Wtf. Or not. You first need to learn the difference between sovereignty and suzerainty. British Crown had suzerainty over all Princely States. This gave Brits exclusive rights to decide on foreign policy and communication. An entity that does not exist can't sign a Standstill Agreement. Dominion of India did on exist on August 11 1947.

Please read again what I posted.I don't believe you have totally construed what you have just read. Manipur was an independent state 3 years before India itself with its own constitution which is still active as wished by the british, and the annexation was orchestrated from India's side ,it was Nehru & co that forced MANIPUR into merger.The merger proposition didn't came from British side. You can't rewrite histoty on your own like that.

Central Asian? Do you know where central Asia is boi?

There is also a classification of Asians in manner of - North asian= kOREANS,Japanese; Central asians= Chinese,tibeto burman/sino tibetan( NE people belongs to this group) ;Southern= Filipino,indonesian( archipelago related ethnic asian).

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

The so called 62% hindu are all meiteis which actually have their own traditional religion "sanamahi" ,meetei have adopted parts of Vaishavism ,what they follow is very different than your traditional Hinduism.Meeteis maybe hindu or christian but all of them are sanamahi first and foremost.
Meeteis follows hinduism like how japanese follows a version of buddhism along with their traditional religion Shintoism.
Sanamahis is like Shintoism or Taoism rather than Hindusim,it's more spiritual rather than idol worship and it involves ancestor worship,elemental worship . Meiteis worship a dragon diety as their supreme god.Those are not your typical hindu.


Please read again what I posted.I don't believe you have totally construed what you have just read. Manipur was an independent state 3 years before India itself with its own constitution which is still active as wished by the british, and the annexation was orchestrated from India's side ,it was Nehru & co that forced MANIPUR into merger.The merger proposition didn't came from British side. You can't rewrite histoty on your own like that.


There is also a classification of Asians in manner of - East asian= kOREANS,Japanese; Central asians= Chinese,tibeto burman/sino tibetan( NE people belongs to this group) ;Southern= Filipino,indonesian( archipelago related ethnic asian).

Central asians are people between the caucuses and the mongols. Nothing more

 

[Shankranthi]

The so called 62% hindu are all meiteis which actually have their own traditional religion "sanamahi" ,meetei have adopted parts of Vaishavism ,what they follow is very different than your traditional Hinduism.Meeteis maybe hindu or christian but all of them are sanamahi first and foremost.
Meeteis follows hinduism like how japanese follows a version of buddhism along with their traditional religion Shintoism.
Sanamahis is like Shintoism or Taoism rather than Hindusim,it's more spiritual rather than idol worship and it involves ancestor worship,elemental worship . Meiteis worship a dragon diety as their supreme god.Those are not your typical hindu.

1. There is NOT SUCH THING as "Typical hindu".

2. Even sikhs are Hindus. Same with Buddhists and jains too. This as per the Constitution of India which define Hindus as all communities except muslims, xtians and parsis.

3. Japanese themselves follow large parts of Hindu practices as part of their rituals and deities.

For example Japanese Hina Matsuri, called the Doll Festival or Girls' Festival is the same as the Hindu festival of Golu.

Can you tell which is which ?

Or God Shiva etc ...

Another Example,