Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

[Varunastra]

Uday you are clutching for straws. And what you end up with is conjecture.

Fair enough, but for ancient history of such nearby regions it really goes both ways

 

[ummarz]

Fair enough, but for ancient history of such nearby regions it really goes both ways

Thats not how it works lol.

 

[Varunastra]

Thats not how it works lol.

Explain how it works if you will

 

[ummarz]

Explain how it works if you will

Uday you have not improved at all from the last time we chatted. This is very disappointing. I will help you out. This is an excellent book to start with, you will never see the world the same again. Its available on the kindle store too, so easy to get. Let me know once you have read it.

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind​

 

[Menace2Society]

Culturally yes.

 

[Varunastra]

Uday you have not improved at all from the last time we chatted. This is very disappointing. I will help you out. This is an excellent book to start with, you will never see the world the same again. Its available on the kindle store too, so easy to get. Let me know once you have read it.

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind​

Hey hey chill man, it's cool either way, we can't change our history in anycase, better look to the future

Ps - Sapiens has been in my bucket list for way too long maybe it's time

 

[Foinikas]

This may come as a shock to you but Alexander never set foot in India. He turned back as he approached the territory today known as India.

Saying Alexander conquered or fought Indians is like saying German Afrika Korps fought South Africa just because that country has the name 'Africa'.

Or Romanians claming they are Romans because of the name. Have a look at this map which details Alexander's movements in the region.

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Detailed map of Pakistan with route of Alexanders march. Porus fought Alexander at Jhelum. I am pretty sure we will have PDF members from that district in Pakistan.

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A more scoped map of Jhelum district in Pakistan where Alexander fought Porus. Clearly he was not a Gangu but a man from the Indus region.

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I did a threa on this few years back.

When coterminous Pakistan fought Alexander the Great and almost brought him down to his knees.

In 326BC Alexander the Great with his Greek and Macedonian army invaded coterminous Pakistan. Our anscestors fought like lions and almost killed him in what is now Multan. By the time he left our land large part of his army was destroyed. So this thread is to celebrate our ancestors who fought...

defence.pk

Pakistan anyway. It was considered India back then,wasn't it? Just like before the partition.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

I have recently been watching documentaries about the history of the Mughal Empire in the subcontinent.

I was wondering if Pakistanis today consider their country to be an heir to the Mughal Empire?

Obviously I think between Pakistan and India, Pakistan is culturally the more legitimate heir to the Mughal Empire even though most of the great monuments of the Mughals are in and around Northern India from Delhi to Agra. However, under the BJP led India, I believe Hindutva is actively seeking to shred links and traces of the Mughal past. The Mughals came from around modern day Uzbekistan and Afghanistan, and controlled the territory of Pakistan for most of their reign. They fused Turkic/Persian with local South Asian cultures and are Muslim, so obviously Pakistan can be considered the most accurate modern heir of the Mughal legacy.

Agree or disagree?

Pakistan is the successor state and rulers of all Empires that ruled South Asia which include

1. Aryan Invasion (1500 - 300 BC)
2. Maurya Empire (322 to 185 BC)
3. Indo-Greek Kingdom (180 BC - 10 AD)
4. Kushan Empire (30-375 AD)
5. Gupta Empire (320 to 550 AD)
6. Sindh Empire (550 -700 AD)
7. Umayyad Al Hind Empire (700-1000 AD)
8. Ghaznavid Empire (1000 - 1175 AD)
9. Ghurid Empire (1175 - 1206 AD)
10. Mamluk Empire (1206–1290 AD)
11. Khilji Empire (1290-1320 AD)
12. Tughlaq Empire (1320-1414 AD)
13. Sayyid Empire (1414–1451 AD)
14. Lodi dynasty (1451–1526 AD)
15. The Mughal Empire (1526 - 1857 AD)
16. British Empire (1858 and 1947 AD)

 

[ummarz]

Pakistan is the successor state and rulers of all Empires that ruled South Asia which include

1. Aryan Invasion (1500 - 300 BC)
2. Maurya Empire (322 to 185 BC)
3. Indo-Greek Kingdom (180 BC - 10 AD)
4. Kushan Empire (30-375 AD)
5. Gupta Empire (320 to 550 AD)
6. Sindh Empire (550 -700 AD)
7. Umayyad Al Hind Empire (700-1000 AD)
8. Ghaznavid Empire (1000 - 1175 AD)
9. Ghurid Empire (1175 - 1206 AD)
10. Mamluk Empire (1206–1290 AD)
11. Khilji Empire (1290-1320 AD)
12. Tughlaq Empire (1320-1414 AD)
13. Sayyid Empire (1414–1451 AD)
14. Lodi dynasty (1451–1526 AD)
15. The Mughal Empire (1526 - 1857 AD)
16. British Empire (1858 and 1947 AD)

The word successor is used to describe an entity that succeeds its predecessor. By your logic, the #16 on your list, The British Empire, would be the successor state of all previous ones...

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

The word successor is used to describe an entity that succeeds its predecessor. By your logic, the #16 on your list, The British Empire, would be the successor state of all previous ones...

Yes but British ruled India through Indian Nawabs, Nizams and Indian Muslim league.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Kanjaro, te tussi ek dujay di bund maran de chakar’an vich masroof’o.

Aaj Bakra nahi mila taskeen hasil kernay k lyay? Ya dog se kam chala liya

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan is the successor state and rulers of all Empires that ruled South Asia which include

1. Aryan Invasion (1500 - 300 BC)
2. Maurya Empire (322 to 185 BC)
3. Indo-Greek Kingdom (180 BC - 10 AD)
4. Kushan Empire (30-375 AD)
5. Gupta Empire (320 to 550 AD)
6. Sindh Empire (550 -700 AD)
7. Umayyad Al Hind Empire (700-1000 AD)
8. Ghaznavid Empire (1000 - 1175 AD)
9. Ghurid Empire (1175 - 1206 AD)
10. Mamluk Empire (1206–1290 AD)
11. Khilji Empire (1290-1320 AD)
12. Tughlaq Empire (1320-1414 AD)
13. Sayyid Empire (1414–1451 AD)
14. Lodi dynasty (1451–1526 AD)
15. The Mughal Empire (1526 - 1857 AD)
16. British Empire (1858 and 1947 AD)

Not really,,. All Muslims of the sub continent have a right to the Muslim history of the sub continent

It's what forged our identity today

Any other pre Islamic history, for the people of Pakistan is only important if it happened within our land

We don't care what happened to the people east of us, they are not our people

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Aaj Bakra nahi mila taskeen hasil kernay k lyay? Ya dog se kam chala liya

I thought you were in jail?

Taskeen nu chad, mobile kithon hasil kar lya?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistan anyway. It was considered India back then,wasn't it? Just like before the partition.

That is like saying Greece was part of Germany before the collapse of the Third Reich. Just to correct you we were part of British Raj which was dissolved in 1947.

Just like Third Reich was a imposition on various countries of Europe and North Africa, British Raj was also a imposition on various peoples in South Asia.

It emphatically was NOT India as in the meaning it holds today. This infographic should lay bare the actuall situation.

This is British Raj with British flag ruled by London.

These are the successor states of the Raj. From east Myanmar [Burma], Bangladesh, Indian Union and Pakistan.

or in another way.

 

[mikkix]

Afghanistan can claim that. Pakistan is just a western wing of gangadesh I would say except pukhtuns and balochis.