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lets wait and hope to see lawrence of shiarabia to get your words true...



hehe the fire worshipper in his best performance.. :)

What if I tell you that there is no region in KSA where Shias are a majority and that they make up 10% of the population (biggest number given is 15% but it is not accurate)? Or most importantly what if I tell you that they are Arabs who share everything in common with us expect for following a different sect (Shia Islam and all its branches - Twelver, Zaydi, Ismaili)?

Kurds on the other hand, well you know about them.

BTW Kurds are apparently from Iran or so they claim or Iranians claim so (don't care BTW) so they should return to Iran and get their own country there. Sounds only fair. What I care about is them not stealing any Arab land (which they won't succeed with) and unlike you Turks, we Arabs have dealt with them before successfully.

In your country there are almost 20 million of them and millions of cryptoKurds (Turkified Kurds who deny their ancestry we have one such person on PDF). You should worry about them rather than fantasies of a few Shia villages trying to break free from KSA, lol. Never in history has there even been such a movement nor will there be, unlike Kurds trying to get their own country.
 
What if I tell you that there is no region in KSA where Shias are a majority and that they make up 10% of the population (biggest number given is 15% but it is not accurate)?

so 10 % or 15 % than this is enough because iran or iraq or turkey it is the same.. and even if they are arabs I dont think they are happy with your reign - they should get their lawrence and get independence..

I am not Shia you moron and zoroadastrians don't worship fire

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How old are you? Saudi Arabian Shias (whether Twelver, Zaydi or Ismaili) are fellow Arabs. They have never had any aspiration of having their own country. What own country? No such thing in history. Are they going to declare Al-Awamiyyah as a country?

Are you really comparing that with 40 millions of Kurds who have their own separate culture, language, ethnicity, history etc. and who are fighting for their country in 4 different countries while we speak? 1 (KRG) is already de facto independent. Bad comparison. Really bad.

Next time we should divide KSA in a Hanbali, Shafi'i, Maliki, Hanafi, Salafi, Sufi version. Shias should also be divided into a Twelver, Zaydi and Ismaili part.

No need for any Lawrence. 95% of Arabia was always independent.


yeah deny it but we could just say give the eastern province to shia.. :)

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yeah deny it but we could just say give the eastern province to shia.. :)

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Are Saudi Arabian Shias a different ethnicity with their own language, culture? Have Saudi Arabian Shias ever had their own country? Do they aspire to have their own country? Are they even the majority anywhere (region that is) in KSA? The question is no. Unlike the Kurds. You and every knowledgeable person knows that there is no comparison in this case.

There has never been any separatist movement. Unlike Kurds. Nor any political body. Unlike Kurds.

So nothing to deny.

Saudi Arabian Shias belong mainly to 1 single city (in the Eastern Province) called Al Qatif with some surrounding small villages that range between 30 villages in numbers. Their other locations are also a few dozens in and around Al-Ahsa, a very small minority in Al Madina (the oldest Shia community in the world BTW) and parts of Najran, Asir and Jizan (Zaydis and Ismailis, no Twelvers).
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All those maps of KSA are wrong. Sunnis are a majority in the Eastern Province outside of Al-Qatif but even there, there are many Sunnis as many people have been moving there due to the oil and gas industries from all across KSA.

Trust me, when I tell you that there will never be any "Shiastan" in Arabia or the Arab world. That has never been the case nor will it be the case. Unlike Kurdish aspirations which have already succeeded (KRG) de facto.

As I said, moronic comparison but there is nothing wrong with dreaming.

BTW I don't support a Kurdistan but I believe that the Kurds in Iraq and Syria are recent arrivals who should return to their ancestral lands which are not in Iraq or Syria. Let them have their own country in Mullahstan along with the Arabs, Baloch, Turkmen and Azeris. Impossible to repress people forever.
 
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Are Saudi Arabian Shias a different ethnicity with their own language, culture? Have Saudi Arabian Shias ever had their own country


whats your problem if they did not have a country than they can have it now.. if they are not a different ethnicity than why are germany, österreich and die schweiz not one country? whats wrong with you ? you clinching to your own unity but you disrespect the unity of other countries like iraq, syria, iran and turkey.. you hypocrite!
 
whats your problem if they did not have a country than they can have it now.. if they are not a different ethnicity than why are germany, österreich and die schweiz not one country? whats wrong with you ? you clinching to your own unity but you disrespect the unity of other countries like iraq, syria, iran and turkey.. you hypocrite!

They can in theory just like your ancestral village, town or city can become an independent country in theory.

How many times do I have to tell you that Saudi Arabian Shias cannot have their own country for all the reasons that I have given to you? Nor do they aspire to such a thing.

I only care about Iraq and Syria. As for Kurds, they belong to Turkey and Iran. They have nothing to do with the Arab world. They are fairly recent migrants.

But I support the freedom of oppressed people in Iran (Arabs, Azeris, Turkmen, Baloch and Kurds) and if they can get their own independence as independent ethnic groups (once again) then that would be a good thing. Mullah's are trying to divide the Arab world (which they will fail at) but in return we will end up dividing them once again.

This happened not fairly long ago already (and many times in history before):



BTW Erdogan (Turkey) is the biggest backer of KRG and Iran the biggest backer of PKU. So talk about real hypocrisy.
 
They can in theory just like your ancestral village, town or city can become an independent country in theory.

How many times do I have to tell you that Saudi Arabian Shias cannot have their own country for all the reasons that I have given to you? Nor do they aspire to such a thing.

I only care about Iraq and Syria. As for Kurds, they belong to Turkey and Iran. They have nothing to do with the Arab world. They are fairly recent migrants.

But I support the freedom of oppressed people in Iran (Arabs, Azeris, Turkmen, Baloch and Kurds) and if they can get their own independence as independent ethnic groups (once again) then that would be a good thing. Mullah's are trying to divide the Arab world (which they will fail at) but in return we will end up dividing them once again.

This happened not fairly long ago already (and many times in history before):



BTW Erdogan (Turkey) is the biggest backer of KRG and Iran the biggest backer of PKU. So talk about real hypocrisy.
Evidence shows that its not mullah who want to decide Arab world but some Arab monarch who come to power only because queen of England desired so.

What does "wahhabists you and the Al-Saud family" mean here? There is no such thing as "Wahhabists" (invented word used against Sunni Hanbalis by certain people). Al-Saud are not oppressing any ethnic groups, I am afraid.

Anyway it would be a good thing if the Kurds could get their own independent country in Iran. In fact you should be so kind to take all the Kurds in Iraq and Syria, especially the land grabbers and trench diggers.
Sorry Kurds lived in those area in turkey and Iran and Iraq before Arabs go out of their ancestral land of hijaz 14century ago .just read about it in old Greek stories for example when they tell how 10000 Greek mercenary escaped from Iranian army 2400 years ago.
 
@Timur you turkified arabized islamist wannabe you are obsessed and hateful creature who is meddling in the domestic arab affairs like you friend mohammad45

Evidence shows that its not mullah who want to decide Arab world but some Arab monarch who come to power only because queen of England desired so.


Sorry Kurds lived in those area in turkey and Iran and Iraq before Arabs go out of their ancestral land of hijaz 14century ago .just read about it in old Greek stories for example when they tell how 10000 Greek mercenary escaped from Iranian army 2400 years ago.
The Arabs are the rightful owners of these lands since these lands were Semitic than arab before Islam so arabs have more rights in these lands just how Greek have more common history with anatolians than the Asian Turks or the Persian iranian have more rights in the indo European Central Asia than the Turkmens or Uzbeks
 
What does "wahhabists you and the Al-Saud family" mean here? There is no such thing as "Wahhabists" (invented word used against Sunni Hanbalis by certain people). Al-Saud are not oppressing any ethnic groups, I am afraid.

Anyway it would be a good thing if the Kurds could get their own independent country in Iran. In fact you should be so kind to take all the Kurds in Iraq and Syria, especially the land grabbers and trench diggers.

Oh I know why Wahhabists don't refer to themselves as such. They say they are mainstream sunnis so they can say "we are one of you" to most of the Muslim world. Whereas as everyone knows they are distinct from Sunnis who don't follow the radical teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

As for Iran, don't you fret. When Saddam attacked Iran he expected the Iranian Arabs to join in to the fight. But guess what, they fought against him. As for the Kurds, a vocal minority is vastly outnumbered by the millions of patriotic Iranian Kurds. So your idiotic ruling despotic nepotism can keep spending money to terrorists, we will just kill them like we did before.

Anyway, I fully support any initiative to transfer authority of Hijaz and the holy cities to an international organisation that would better administer it than Saudi. That way, thousands of people won't die because an Al-Saud mutt wanted to cross the road.
 
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As for Iran, don't you fret. When Saddam attacked Iran he expected the Iranian Arabs to join in to the fight. But guess what, they fought against him. As for the Kurds, a vocal minority is vastly outnumbered by the millions of patriotic Iranian Kurds. So your idiotic ruling despotic nepotism can keep spending money on terrorists, we will just kill them like we did before.

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its a little funny to see Saudi's getting excited about Zionist/American propaganda narrative.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Po...an-demand-rights-as-regime-cracks-down-506325

john Bolton outright openly screamed aloud about neocon plans of trying to use ethnic minorities to destabilize iran and possibly start a civil war if they can.

While iran at its weakest post revolution state. When central authority was weak, and a heavily supported saddam attacked. they couldn't even get the arabs (who do not even have the historical roots of other Iranian "minorities") to side with them.

now you see fantasy wet dream scenarios of them trying to get balochis, kurds, and azeris against iran...... its really laughable from an Iranian point of view... but let them dream, and waste their time and resources on dead ends..
 

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