Iran FM : No country has right to ask Iran to halt enrichment

[nirreich]

I did read the last IAEA report. And I don't know what you're trying to say in your second sentence, as it does not make sense grammatically.

Why do you reject the idea that Iran tries to develop nuclear weapons? Why this argument is so inconceivable?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So, you think that the US should attack NK? BTW: the US did not attack NK even before it has nuclear weapons, and PRC has a heavy share of the blame for NK being a nuclear weapons state.

In the 1950's Korean War, the USA + 16 of her allies combined, almost completely overran North Korea.

Until China made a direct military intervention, and pushed the USA and her allies completely out of North Korea.

At that point, a desperate and retreating General McArthur, even threatened to nuke China.

And that is the story of why we decided to get thermonuclear weapons for ourselves.

This story is repeating with Iran. America has been threatening to attack Iran for decades, and has occupied the country on their right (Afghanistan), as well as the country on their left (Iraq).

They have been forced into a corner, and they have also been shown the way out. The entire world watched, as North Korea developed nuclear weapons, and then went on to attack close American allies without fear of retaliation.

 

[nirreich]

In the 1950's Korean War, the USA + 16 of her allies combined, almost conpletely overran North Korea.

Until China made a direct military intervention, and pushed the USA and her allies completely out of North Korea.

At that point, a desperate and retreating General McArthur, even threatened to nuke China.

And that is the story of why we decided to get thermonuclear weapons for ourselves.

This story is repeating with Iran. America has been threatening to attack Iran for decades, and has occupied the country on their right (Afghanistan), as well as the country on their left (Iraq).

Who in their position would NOT want nuclear weapons?

You treat both NK and Iran as passive players. Just to remind you that the Korean War erupted because of a surprise attack by NK on South Korea in order to eliminate this country. Iran too has been involved in numerous acts of terrorism against the US since its people overrun the US embassy in 1979 and until Iran's support for terror organisation working against the US forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan. The US invaded to this countries as a result of reasons not directly connected to Iran.

However, I am pleased to see that you accept the argument that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and all its claims about civilian nuclear programme are just lies.

 

[gambit]

And the USA forgot all about North Korea after they went nuclear, and didn't do anything even after North Korea repeatedly and lethally attacked close American allies.

What kind of message do you think that sends to the world? That the USA will only threaten you until you acquire nuclear weapons?

First of all, there is no evidence that North Korea successfully weaponize any nuclear explosive device and that the US can still strike North Korea's facilities. It is because of NKR being China's mutt that we have not act. Second, whatever else that North Korea did to South Korea, none of those warranted actions by the US. If anything, the South Koreans are fully capable of handling North Korea.

But here is something very telling, the US and SKR have kept open the redeployment of US nuclear weapons back into SKR. China cannot do a damn thing about it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You treat both NK and Iran as passive players. Just to remind you that the Korean War erupted because of a surprise attack by NK on South Korea in order to eliminate this country. Iran too has been involved in numerous acts of terrorism against the US since its people overrun the US embassy in 1979 and until Iran's support for terror organisation working against the US forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan. The US invaded to this countries as a result of reasons not directly connected to Iran.

However, I am pleased to see that you accept the argument that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and all its claims about civilian nuclear programme are just lies.

Why did Israel develop nuclear weapons? For the same reason we did, to defend ourselves against the imminent threat from the enemies who surrounded us.

And if Iran develops nuclear weapons, their story will be exactly the same as ours.

 

[nirreich]

Why did Israel develop nuclear weapons? For the same reason we did, to defend ourselves against the imminent threat from the enemies who surrounded us.

And if Iran develops nuclear weapons, their story will be exactly the same as ours.

First of all, your country and Russia and everyone else should admit that Iran is indeed tries to develop nuclear weapons and act accordingly. China and Russia signed the NPT and should act according their commitments and join international sanctions on Iran. China too is committed to the goal of nuclear non-proliferation.

Second, Iran is not defending itself, it will use its nuclear capabilities for enable it to attack other countries - can't you see what Iran already does in the ME? Now imagine what Iran will do with a nuclear capabilities as protection. Now imagine what Arab countries will do in retaliation - one thing will be to develop nuclear weapons too and then you get a ME with nuclear arms race.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Nirreach

Why doesnt Israel sign NPT? Shouldnt China and Russia sanction Israel? Your argument is flawed

 

[Serpentine]

20% enriched uranium can easily be enriched to weapon grade level of 90%.

Iran lied again and again to IAEA and to the international community and developed a clandestine nuclear programme in clear violation of its commitments to the NPT. There is no reason to trust them any more, so Iran should be punished and the international pressure should be on Iran to stop its uranium enrichment completely. In any future arrangement regarding its nuclear programmes Iran could receive nuclear fuel from external resources under IAEA supervision, like its deal with Russia for the supply of nuclear fuel for the Busher reactor.

Iran just follow the footsteps of North Korea which also lied and cheat and deceived the world with its declarations that it only wants a "peaceful" nuclear programme because of its energy needs - today North Korea is a nuclear weapons state!

Your country is not a member of NPT,has nuclear weapon and and hides it from the world.Who is the big liar here?You don't have any right to talk about NPT.

 

[Birbal]

Why do you reject the idea that Iran tries to develop nuclear weapons? Why this argument is so inconceivable?

It's not inconceivable. You'll just need to present a lot of solid evidence instead of just wild speculation... Especially since Leon Panetta himself said that Iran is not trying to develop a nuclear weapon.

 

[gambit]

Nirreach

Why doesnt Israel sign NPT? Shouldnt China and Russia sanction Israel? Your argument is flawed

China and Russia certainly can sanction Israel. The trick is to create a worthwhile list of items that can hurt Israel in order for a sanction regime to work. This tell me you do not know what a 'sanction' really mean...

- A threatened penalty for disobeying a law or rule.
- Give official permission or approval for (an action).

 

[Birbal]

Your country is not a member of NPT,has nuclear weapon and and hides it from the world.Who is the big liar here?You don't have any right to talk about NPT.

Not to mention kidnaps whistleblower scientists.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

First of all, your country and Russia and everyone else should admit that Iran is indeed tries to develop nuclear weapons and act accordingly. China and Russia signed the NPT and should act according their commitments and join international sanctions on Iran. China too is committed to the goal of nuclear non-proliferation.

Second, Iran is not defending itself, it will use its nuclear capabilities for enable it to attack other countries - can't you see what Iran already does in the ME? Now imagine what Iran will do with a nuclear capabilities as protection. Now imagine what Arab countries will do in retaliation - one thing will be to develop nuclear weapons too and then you get a ME with
arms race.

In the 1960's, we had to live with two nuclear superpowers as our enemies, the USA and the USSR. We were in a terribly weak position.

Israel on the other hand, is in a position of strength. Israel has a significantly more advanced nuclear arsenal than most other nations.

You have less to fear from a nuclear Iran, than we had to fear from having two nuclear superpowers as our enemies.

When MacArthur was openly threatening to nuke us, we had no nuclear weapons at all. We lived through it, and you can certainly do so as well.

 

[gambit]

Your country is not a member of NPT,has nuclear weapon and and hides it from the world.Who is the big liar here?You don't have any right to talk about NPT.

Just because someone refused to sign a contract does not mean signatories to said contract can flaunt the rules.

 

[nirreich]

Nirreach

Why doesnt Israel sign NPT? Shouldnt China and Russia sanction Israel? Your argument is flawed

Why Pakistan and India do not sign the NPT? First ask them to sign the NPT and then we can discuss Israel which never declared that it is a nuclear weapons country, like India and Pakistan. Iran violated its international commitments (to China too, BTW) and should be punished.

 

[gambit]

When MacArthur was openly threatening to nuke us, we had no nuclear weapons at all. We lived through it, and you can certainly do so as well.

MacArthur could not have used nuclear weapons without Presidential approval. So your argument failed.