Qutb-ud-din Aybak
SENIOR MEMBER
I don't know but if its true than sharif will find himself in grave rather than KSA this time. army will hang both kalboshan and sharif. last time he was saved but this time army chief is too much aggressive person .
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The plan remains to separate PA from civil establishment.
It is clearly identified that PA is the stumbling block in normalisation of relations between Pakistan and rest of the region, with Iran moving in to join the bandwagon of 'affected parties'.
It is nothing new. You should actually appreciate that what most idiots cried as 'surgical strike' is not about a military strike, but a socio-politic and economic effort. US has the same view, Afghanistan has no love lost, Iran sees Pakistani moves as being definitive of a pro-GCC posturing (in recent days), and the Chinese steps? Nothing new there or unexpected.
Had said earlier on the forum, Pakistan is being squeezed by the 'brother' which wants to insure it's investment and is willing to negotiate with India. As China increases it's leverage over Pakistan, there is not much Pakistan can do.
You have only scraped the tip. The process has been going on for sometime, and increased instability is but a foregone conclusion.
And it will not be NS' doing.
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but this time army chief is too much aggressive person





Had said earlier on the forum, Pakistan is being squeezed by the 'brother' which wants to insure it's investment and is willing to negotiate with India. As China increases it's leverage over Pakistan, there is not much Pakistan can do.
Your reasons of being hopeless are understandable - but the only institute which has kept Pakistan intact is Army. We just expect a little more from them because they are the only ones we could expect something from.
Have faith. If in Panama, PMLN gets a clean chit, Judicery will get a black chit on their character. They have no choice but to punish the culprit.
Wait and see and keep your hopes alive.
Pakistan does not need enemy apas main hi kat marenge yeah log. I do not think NS will think bad about Pakistan. Now PA is attacking NS. Wow.some information has been leaked about the purpose of Indian Steel magnet's unspecified purpose of visit to Nawaz in secret in Murree.
although Sherif family exercised utmost caution to ensure there were no listening devices and the meeting place was checked out by the Indian personnel inside the building and outside the garden but some sketchy , incomplete but consistent contents of the meeting have been acquired by Pakistani military agencies
apparently Jadhav's conviction was discussed along with the idea of taking the case to the international court.
Nawaz Sherif is required "not to respond from Pakistani side" to get verdict in favor of India.
Nwaz Sherif in tun has openly requested Indian help to deviate the attention of GHQ from his government.
India's surprise and bold decision to approach the international court is one such step and also the Indian COAS's threat to attack Pakistan in place and time of its choosing is also expected to give Nawaz Sherif some breathing space due to the hot issue of Panama case.
due to the sensitivity of the information the personnel cant be identified they include some Sherif's internal staff as well as some opportunists who see some political future in case Nawaz decides to escape to India or Dubai in case of Military take over
Sometimes i hate you, but sometimes i wish i had your ability to deduce information.

Nawaz has apparently assured India that govt of Pakistan will put up a weaker counter argument or wont present at allPlot thickens. Proceedings in ICJ will be live telecasted on monday, it will be one interesting watch.
the house of Sherif has repeatedly shown its hostility towards the army.Brother,
If this is true then it is Highest Treason. Unforgivable!
Normally, out of principle, I don't comment on Pak's internal political matter, since, I deem it that I have no right to do as being not part of Pak Society.
Pak is extremely dear to me...this breaks my heart to read it.
I do not doubt your words... so much betrayal, so much theft... it pains me.
All the 'incidents' along Pak's borders make clear sense now.
Who deserve bigger hanging... a spy who was loyal to his people and government or a pm who has tried to break Pak's back time after time?
They can do all their betrayals... they can do all their plotting... Pak was there and Pak shall remain there... the People of Pak will do the Right Thing.
Long Live Eternal Pak!
Sincerely,
SPF
NS was helped by the Gen. Kayani in last elections to rig and win by 2/3rd majority. Now we are reaping the fruits of that decision. You would recall CH.Nisar and Showbaz meeting Kayani secretly around a dozen times.Nawaz Sharif should loose this election on being a security risk, PTI should play this card it will be an easy victory for them in the next election if they can convince the nation NS has secret ties with GOI.
Such a shame how Maryam Nawaz and NS stance on India is going to cost him another 5 years in office.
A friend of India holding the highest office in Pakistan is as Damning as it gets.
Jesus christ, this man is single handedly destroying Pakistan
High debt, high population growth, no foreign policy, high corruption, low economic output, and on top of that he's giving India the keys to Pakistans backdoor just to spite the military?
...and people even on this forum will try and defend this criminal and his goons
Go back to May election 2013 and ask the Army high ups as to why on earth they rigged the election to let this moron become the PM of Pakistan. Kiyani needs to answer some tough questions.
Nothing will come out of the Panama JIT, Noora clan will get clean chit, the same officers, both ISI and MI, who were part of Dawnleak investigation team are now with Panama JIT.
Only Allah knows what kind of commitments and for what benefit of the state our military establishment have done with international establishment by letting the jet black traitors of Pakistan sit in the power corridors.
Your reasons of being hopeless are understandable - but the only institute which has kept Pakistan intact is Army. We just expect a little more from them because they are the only ones we could expect something from.
Have faith. If in Panama, PMLN gets a clean chit, Judicery will get a black chit on their character. They have no choice but to punish the culprit.
Wait and see and keep your hopes alive.
@Horus... is this bharta rat shit forum?? Why are we allowing threads to discuss fantacies??? Any source or close the thread please
Nawaz has apparently assured India that govt of Pakistan will put up a weaker counter argument or wont present at all
the house of Sherif has repeatedly shown its hostility towards the army.
it is the last institution that the House cant buy or bully or make deal with to rule Pakistan unopposed
hence it uses both the relgious terrorists to keep its rival occupied and also uses Indian friendship to keep pressure on the eastern borders as well whenever Nawaz sees danger to his government.
as far as the house of sherif is concerned.. it has everything covered.. from business to justice system to banking to business community to civil administration the religious thugs .. it has bought, bullied or allied with everyone so army has no ally to rely on if it decides to take on the House of Sherif.