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Short pieces of history:

America and Mujahid.
"The U.S.-funded Afghan insurgents were called mujahideen, an Arabic word that means "strugglers" or "strivers." The word has its orgins in Islam, and is related to the word jihad, but in the context of the Afghan war, it may be best understood as referring to "resistance."

The mujahideen were organized into different political parties, and armed and supported by different countries, including Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, as well as the United States, and they gained significantly in power and money during the course of the Afghan-Soviet war.

The legendary fierceness of the mujahideen fighters, their stringent, extreme version of Islam and their cause—expelling the Soviet foreigners—drew interest and support from Arab Muslims seeking an opportunity to experience, and experiment with, waging jihad."

America and Caucasus:
"The U.S. government has demanded that nations and international bodies join forces to combat terrorism. Yet the United States has played an important role in fostering the very terrorism it now denounces. While terrorist groups are portrayed as an "evil enemies" by the United States, many terrorist organizations initially received considerable support from the U.S. government, either openly or clandestinely. From the Mujihadeen in Afghanistan to the Kosovo Liberation Army in the former Yugoslavia, the U.S. government has provided training and support to "terrorist" organizations. One of the best ways to combat terrorism in the world today is to pressure the United States and other governments to stop lending support to such organizations.

This is of particular importance for Russia, since terrorists originally armed and trained by the United States battled Soviet forces for over a decade in Afghanistan, and these Mujihadeen fighters can now be found in the Russian region of Chechnya. Not only has the U.S. support for the Mujihadeen resulted in considerable bloodshed in Chechnya, but the Soviet Union's war in Afghanistan and the Russian Federation's war in Chechnya served to undermine efforts at democratization."

"The Clinton administration followed up by providing strong support to the KLA, even though it was known that the KLA supported the Muslim mujahadeen. Despite that knowledge, then Secretary of State Madeleine Albright had the KLA removed from the State Department list of terrorists. This action paved the way for the United States to provide the KLA with needed logistical support. At the same time, the KLA also received support from Iran and Usama bin Laden, along with 'Islamic holy warriors' who were jihad veterans from Bosnia, Chechnya and Afghanistan. Swiss journalist Richard Labeviere, in his book, 'Dollars for Terror,' said that the international Islamic networks linked to bin Laden received help from U.S. intelligence community."

"Russians Blast US-UK Sponsorship Of Chechen Terror
[Translate]
By Webster G. Tarpley
September 14, 2007


Washington DC, September 14 — In the wake of the terrorist atrocity at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia, in the Russian Federation, Russian President Vladimir Putin has made remarks to the western press which expose the key role of the US and British governments in backing Chechen terrorism. Whatever Putin’s previous role in events regarding Chechnya, his current political posture is one which sharply undercuts the legitimacy of the supposed Anglo-American “war on terror,” and which points up the hypocrisy of the Bush regime’s pledge that it will make no distinction between the terrorists and those who harbor them — since Washington and London are currently harboring Chechens implicated in terrorism."

War in Afghanistan:

"In modern day, events alleged to be attacks on Islam include media portrayal of the religion and the War on Terrorism. Statements portraying Islam as a destructive ideology have been made by Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn V.S. Naipaul and Ann Coulter following the 9/11 attack. Franklin Graham, the son of famed American Christian evangelist Billy Graham, declared in November 2001 that "the God of Islam is not the same God. He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion."


U.S. and UK soldiers in Helmand province. George W. Bush's reference to the invasion of Afghanistan as a crusade fuelled the idea that the West was at war with Islam
On September 16, 2001, George W. Bush referred to the war in Afghanistan as a Crusade: "This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while. And the American people must be patient. I'm going to be patient."

NOTE: I support actions against hard core elements but George Bush, earlier in 2001-2003, made statements which acted as a catalyst to unify terrorist and their silent supporters. Western media could do a better job earlier in the day to get support from Muslim PEOPLE.

War in Iraq.

Consider other misadventures as well.
 
The western world, pursuing their interests, ruined our region and religion with the help of Muslim leaders.

---------- Post added at 10:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 PM ----------

Our religion and region faces threats from AL QAEDA and their supporters. However, keep in mind that those lunatics are a production of the west and our own leaders.
 
Short pieces of history:

America and Mujahid.
"The U.S.-funded Afghan insurgents were called mujahideen, an Arabic word that means "strugglers" or "strivers." The word has its orgins in Islam, and is related to the word jihad, but in the context of the Afghan war, it may be best understood as referring to "resistance."

The mujahideen were organized into different political parties, and armed and supported by different countries, including Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, as well as the United States, and they gained significantly in power and money during the course of the Afghan-Soviet war.

The legendary fierceness of the mujahideen fighters, their stringent, extreme version of Islam and their cause—expelling the Soviet foreigners—drew interest and support from Arab Muslims seeking an opportunity to experience, and experiment with, waging jihad."

America and Caucasus:
"The U.S. government has demanded that nations and international bodies join forces to combat terrorism. Yet the United States has played an important role in fostering the very terrorism it now denounces. While terrorist groups are portrayed as an "evil enemies" by the United States, many terrorist organizations initially received considerable support from the U.S. government, either openly or clandestinely. From the Mujihadeen in Afghanistan to the Kosovo Liberation Army in the former Yugoslavia, the U.S. government has provided training and support to "terrorist" organizations. One of the best ways to combat terrorism in the world today is to pressure the United States and other governments to stop lending support to such organizations.

This is of particular importance for Russia, since terrorists originally armed and trained by the United States battled Soviet forces for over a decade in Afghanistan, and these Mujihadeen fighters can now be found in the Russian region of Chechnya. Not only has the U.S. support for the Mujihadeen resulted in considerable bloodshed in Chechnya, but the Soviet Union's war in Afghanistan and the Russian Federation's war in Chechnya served to undermine efforts at democratization."

"The Clinton administration followed up by providing strong support to the KLA, even though it was known that the KLA supported the Muslim mujahadeen. Despite that knowledge, then Secretary of State Madeleine Albright had the KLA removed from the State Department list of terrorists. This action paved the way for the United States to provide the KLA with needed logistical support. At the same time, the KLA also received support from Iran and Usama bin Laden, along with 'Islamic holy warriors' who were jihad veterans from Bosnia, Chechnya and Afghanistan. Swiss journalist Richard Labeviere, in his book, 'Dollars for Terror,' said that the international Islamic networks linked to bin Laden received help from U.S. intelligence community."

"Russians Blast US-UK Sponsorship Of Chechen Terror
[Translate]
By Webster G. Tarpley
September 14, 2007


Washington DC, September 14 — In the wake of the terrorist atrocity at a school in Beslan, North Ossetia, in the Russian Federation, Russian President Vladimir Putin has made remarks to the western press which expose the key role of the US and British governments in backing Chechen terrorism. Whatever Putin’s previous role in events regarding Chechnya, his current political posture is one which sharply undercuts the legitimacy of the supposed Anglo-American “war on terror,” and which points up the hypocrisy of the Bush regime’s pledge that it will make no distinction between the terrorists and those who harbor them — since Washington and London are currently harboring Chechens implicated in terrorism."

War in Afghanistan:

"In modern day, events alleged to be attacks on Islam include media portrayal of the religion and the War on Terrorism. Statements portraying Islam as a destructive ideology have been made by Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn V.S. Naipaul and Ann Coulter following the 9/11 attack. Franklin Graham, the son of famed American Christian evangelist Billy Graham, declared in November 2001 that "the God of Islam is not the same God. He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion."


U.S. and UK soldiers in Helmand province. George W. Bush's reference to the invasion of Afghanistan as a crusade fuelled the idea that the West was at war with Islam
On September 16, 2001, George W. Bush referred to the war in Afghanistan as a Crusade: "This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while. And the American people must be patient. I'm going to be patient."

NOTE: I support actions against hard core elements but George Bush, earlier in 2001-2003, made statements which acted as a catalyst to unify terrorist and their silent supporters. Western media could do a better job earlier in the day to get support from Muslim PEOPLE.

War in Iraq.

Consider other misadventures as well.

saad445566
Good thread at right time.:tup::tup::tup:
agree with your post.:agree::agree::agree:
 
"enemies" of the russian fed always had the chechnya conflict as a trump card to halt the russians as a cold war artifact.
Before 9/11 i dont think usa ever considered relegious fundamentalism as a threat to the world...ie if we excuse a few hollywood muvees
 
"enemies" of the russian fed always had the chechnya conflict as a trump card to halt the russians as a cold war artifact.
Before 9/11 i dont think usa ever considered relegious fundamentalism as a threat to the world...ie if we excuse a few hollywood muvees

No, the U.S. saw the threat rising month by month. The fact of the matter is, the U.S. and their Muslim leaders gave our region a monster.

Some say, it was the necessity of the time--For the sake of discussion, yes it was, but why did not anyone control that monster?
 
Russia, Pakistan, China, Iran, CARs, Turkey and Afghanistan should form an alliance against terrorism as they are intensely suffering from one, more than the west.

There should be regular military level meetings and intelligence sharing.
 
MUSLIM WORLD should HELP the U.S. and Russia to combat terrorism while in return, Palestine should get equal rights, their independent state and no construction projects by Israel. Kashmir should be announced a separate country in return while all the proxies in Muslim world should go back to their place of origin.

This way, the world will be a safer place to live in and to feed your kids.

The interests of west, Russia and Muslim countries converge in this particular issue. Sure, we can help you guys, make your country a lot safer and in return we need Kashmir and Palestine issue resolved while proxies being isolated.
 
Russia, Pakistan, China, Iran, CARs, Turkey and Afghanistan should form an alliance against terrorism as they are intensely suffering from one, more than the west.

There should be regular military level meetings and intelligence sharing.

easier said than done....but there will be issues that will crop up that will hinder such an alliance. For eg, there are reports that claim that the bombers of the moscow airport spent some time in pakistan. Now GOP may have no idea about heir presence , but they were there and naturally russia might feel angry with pakistan.

I seriously hope that the world can avoid another Iraq. Atleast in saddams(and i aint supporting him) time, common folk, both shias nd sunnis could walk without fear. ANd look what has happened now with so much international meddling.Alas.
 

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