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'Indo-Pak talks will weaken Kashmiri freedom movement'

Jamaat-ud-Dawah chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed claimed that India [ Images ] wants to "weaken the freedom movement" in Jammu and Kashmir [ Images ] under the pretext of talks with Pakistan.

"India is not sincere with Pakistan in talks. The fact is that India, under the pretext of dialogue, wants to weaken the freedom movement of Kashmiris and to complete the construction of controversial dams on Pakistani rivers," Saeed claimed during a meeting in Lahore [ Images ] with a JuD delegation from Kashmir.

Pakistan's rulers should stop the "one-sided extending of hands of friendship to India", Saeed was quoted as saying in a statement issued by the JuD.

India will have to "quit Kashmir" and Pakistan and the Kashmir issue are "inter-linked and no one can separate them",he said.

Saeed, also the founder of the Lashker-e-Tayiba that was blamed for the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks [ Images ], lauded the Chinese government's decision to issue special visas to persons from Jammu and Kashmir. "The people of Kashmir laud China's efforts and measures regarding the Kashmir issue. Muslim nations should play a role like China to free Kashmiris from the clutches of India," he said.

Saeed claimed the Pakistani people were with separatist leaders like Ali Shah Geelani and supported their struggle. "The freedom movement in Kashmir will continue. India cannot crush the freedom movement though use of force. India, with the help of Israel and the US, is trying to divide Pakistan. It is behind the unrest in Balochistan," he claimed without giving any proof to back his allegation.

Former military ruler Pervez Musharraf [ Images ] had floated "new formulas on Kashmir due to foreign pressure and stabbed Kashmiris in the back", he contended.

'Indo-Pak talks will weaken J&K freedom movement' - Rediff.com India News
 
I dnt knw what these separatist leaders(self declared ) want ... they are confused by their own ....
 
This is really funny now. So the next time India will be able to break off talks on Jammu and Kashmir; saying that India does not want to weaken the "freedom movement"? :lol:
 
This is really funny now. So the next time India will be able to break off talks on Jammu and Kashmir; saying that India does not want to weaken the "freedom movement"? :lol:

I'm surprised you find it funny. He is correct in a way. Talks will try to ensure that there is a amicable solution acceptable to all the parties. Me.Saaed considers accession to Pakistan as the ONLY & JUST solution, which is not possible by talks alone.

Its natural he opposes the Talks.
 
I'm surprised you find it funny. He is correct in a way. Talks will try to ensure that there is a amicable solution acceptable to all the parties. Me.Saaed considers accession to Pakistan as the ONLY & JUST solution, which is not possible by talks alone.

Its natural he opposes the Talks.

You are correct and I agree.
But try seeing the issue a little differently.....:P
 
I'm surprised you find it funny. He is correct in a way. Talks will try to ensure that there is a amicable solution acceptable to all the parties. Me.Saaed considers accession to Pakistan as the ONLY & JUST solution, which is not possible by talks alone.
Does India have an alternative without talking to Pakistan? I am in favor of tripartite talks rather than bilateral talks between India and Pakistan. But at the moment both India and Pakistan have to come in terms to be able to involve the Kashmiris into the equation.
 
i believe it's not yet time for talks with pakistan..we only need to develop kashmir and bring more and more kashmiri youths to mainstream.we talk to pakistan "when they realise that there is no other way than talks ..and that is the one and only way"
 
The problem is not with the talks... but rather how serious the talks really are. GoP has been a weak counterpart on the negotiation table. There are serious rifts in their govt which hasn't helped the cause of the talks. Youth in Kashmir have full access to be a part of the Indian economy, but very few have decided to be a part of it. We can't force them to come out and take up jobs around the country. Most want things to be created in Kashmir itself, it is a hard ask for the govt to fulfill... there are several other states where people have had to move out to get better jobs.

Both India and Pakistan have vested interests in the resolution of the Kashmir issue, there have been several attempts followed by periods of mistrust and backing of terrorism agendas. If Pakistan were sincere in stemming these groups operating from their soil, maybe a resolution cab be worked out much sooner...but at present nothing can be done apart from sitting down on the table.
 
i believe it's not yet time for talks with pakistan..we only need to develop kashmir and bring more and more kashmiri youths to mainstream.we talk to pakistan "when they realise that there is no other way than talks ..and that is the one and only way"


These are talks or discussions. These talks are an early step. Only later will there be any need for actual commitments or actions arising out of those talks. So why keep that part in deep-freeze. In any case there are many dimensions to that. Most of all they are bilateral, i.e. between two parties, India and Pakistan. And on a different plane completely.

Now the next part; the internal part. Of course the people of Kashmir, notably the youth have to be brought in to the mainstream. So again there has to be some understanding, some conversations and finally actions. This again is bilateral; between the Govt. of J & K and India and whoever in Kashmir is willing to talk. That is precisely what the Interlocutors were doing. This process must be kept going regardless of obstructions. And this will be independent of the external conversations till required or till areas of overlap come up.
 
These are talks or discussions. These talks are an early step. Only later will there be any need for actual commitments or actions arising out of those talks. So why keep that part in deep-freeze. In any case there are many dimensions to that. Most of all they are bilateral, i.e. between two parties, India and Pakistan. And on a different plane completely.

Now the next part; the internal part. Of course the people of Kashmir, notably the youth have to be brought in to the mainstream. So again there has to be some understanding, some conversations and finally actions. This again is bilateral; between the Govt. of J & K and India and whoever in Kashmir is willing to talk. That is precisely what the Interlocutors were doing. This process must be kept going regardless of obstructions. And this will be independent of the external conversations till required or till areas of overlap come up.

i still think we can't talk to a a country which still have not taken any action against those who responsible for mumbai attacks..and not yet convinced that talks is the ONLY WAY forward..they are still trying the other ways.i believe every talk move with out action from opposition will do harm than any good.
 
i still think we can't talk to a a country which still have not taken any action against those who responsible for mumbai attacks..and not yet convinced that talks is the ONLY WAY forward..they are still trying the other ways.i believe every talk move with out action from opposition will do harm than any good.

Hi, it is all about talking; and there are many ways to talk. Most of all, I remember what one of my trainers used to say "one can say many things without saying anything". Don't forget diplomacy is about many things, not everything is substantive, rather a lot about appearances. On an International level, everything matters.
 

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