Indira Gandhi planned a mass invasion of Pakistan | CIA Records

[Nav]

Indira Gandhi was strong and brave, not ruthless.

she might be the Iron Lady For Indians , but for Pakistan ,its " ghar ka bedi ( mukti bhni) lanka dhay "
and Russian role in sepretion of East Pakistan " pakistani's already fixed them in afg .

 

[Bang Galore]

Wasn't she behind some sort of mass sterilization campaign in India?

Actually her son Sanjay Gandhi was behind that campaign. He was pretty much the reason that Indira Gandhi did what she did, especially during the emergency. He was the real power behind the throne, something that a lot of people either do not know or have forgotten.

There is an interesting anecdote on what supposedly transpired after Mrs. Gandhi lost the elections in 1977. She called the army chief T.N Raina in for a discussion and when she was in the middle of the meeting, Sanjay Gandhi entered the room and is supposed to have said that there was no reason to hand over power & all that the situation required was for army troops to be stationed in different cities. Gen.Raina is believed to have completely ignored Sanjay Gandhi & speaking to the PM lavished praise on the Congess party for all that it had done for the country & told the PM that she would further be enhancing her prestige & that of her party by becoming the first congress leader to gracefully relinquish power to the newly elected government. Mrs.Gandhi submitted her resignation the same day.It was not surprising because when Mrs Gandhi had asked Gen.Raina for support before the imposition of emergency he had bluntly told the Prime Minister that the army would not be used to 'further her ends' but obey only those orders of a 'legally construed government.'

People forget that it was because of people like Gen.Raina & others that we have not fallen victim to the disease of dictatorship that befell our neighbours. People just assume that democracy survived by itself in India. We as a nation were very lucky to have dodged bullets that struck other countries in the region.

 

[Bang Galore]

They were terrorists just like those terrorists inside Lal masjid. She had to take the action and she gave her life for the betterment of the nation.

Thanks to Indira, Sikh extremism is almost rooted out.

She was the cause of Sikh extremism in the first place. It was she who tried to cut the Akalis down to size by creating the monster Brindanwale. The monster, like our Pakistani friends know all too well ended up threatening its creator. While I would not blame her directly for Operation Blue Star(the fault there should lie with the army for the methods employed), she was responsible for putting the events that led to the situation occurring, into motion.

Btw, the government & the armed forces learnt the lessons from Operation Blue Star fairly quickly because when faced with similar situation in 1988, they adopted a much more cautious attitude & forced most of the militants to surrender. Operation Black Thunder was also when the NSG was first seen in operations and was probably one of the most successful anti-terrorist operation ever .

 

[NWO]

and my KNOWLEDGE says that, your begging in front of Americans right now.

We lost airforce, army , navy, everything( your claims) but gained approx. 1700km² of your territory. Objective Accomplished. You lost much of the territory.

In 48, your diplomacy failed, in 65 the same thing, in 71 totaly failed in 1999 again failed.

If you were so well sure about the victory why did you accept the Cease fire so quickly, where as in 71 your Bhutto tore the proposal??? Where as no single MILITARY Leader favored the cease fire on our side.

Coming to cold war Issue, yes you helped americans, but you were not the only ones who helped americans. You never had such Economy and such Home build Technology to help Americans(simple fact). You are just used by the Americans, the Think Tank is the west, financer is that west and you broke USSR?? sounds funny!!
The abandoning of Communism in East Europe and Economic reforms by Gorbachev was the major reason of the fall of USSR. ((Go through 'Perestroika'))

Soviet war in Afghan was to support the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan against your homemade Mujahideens(Taliban) FUNDED BY WEST and You played the role in building Taliban and now SUFFERING FROM THEM.
VERY WELL DONE!!
Idiots!!!

Yes, but we fought a enemy with larger or superior army/airforce/navy, five times larger landmass, and six times larger population multiple times. As well, we've faced problems/threats in six decades that other countries only face over several centuries, if they ever face them at all.

The fact that we're still here is enough and thriving for me to take pride.

 

[RamGorur]

Actually her son Sanjay Gandhi was behind that campaign.

Just to add to it, it was just a myth. There was really no active campaign and certainly no case of forced sterilization. It is rumoured to have been started by an anti-Indira Gandhi faction within Congress to embarrass her.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

As pointed out before, Indira Gandhi supported terrorists and mass murderers in East Pakistan in 1971, along with insurgents, all of whom were involved in destabilizing a nation and spreading chaos in it.

Indian support Indira Gandhi's policies against Pakistan in 1971 is blatant support for terrorism and terrorists, and is utterly hypocritical given Indian shrieking and whining about the insurgency in Kashmir.

 

[barcelona]

As pointed out before, Indira Gandhi supported terrorists and mass murderers in East Pakistan in 1971, along with insurgents, all of whom were involved in destabilizing a nation and spreading chaos in it.

Indian support Indira Gandhi's policies against Pakistan in 1971 is blatant support for terrorism and terrorists, and is utterly hypocritical given Indian shrieking and whining about the insurgency in Kashmir.

It was some 40 years ago n Pakistan is supporting its fair share of jehadis
Point is she did & was succssesful in her endevour in such a short time means she had groundswell support of east pakistan

I wanna knw keeping nationality aside if she would have been ur leader how would you have rated her if you still thought she was worse wat in your eyes would have been an ideal leader.................

 

[Anonymous_Clown]

As pointed out before, Indira Gandhi supported terrorists and mass murderers in East Pakistan in 1971, along with insurgents, all of whom were involved in destabilizing a nation and spreading chaos in it.

Indian support Indira Gandhi's policies against Pakistan in 1971 is blatant support for terrorism and terrorists, and is utterly hypocritical given Indian shrieking and whining about the insurgency in Kashmir.

AgNoStIc MuSliM:

You do agree that the Pakistani army committed horrible atrocities on the Bengalis in East Pakistan? Or do you also maintain, like some rabid Mullahs do, that India sent 60000 people in Pakistan army uniform into East Pakistan?!

 

[Hulk]

i seriously believe if we had one more leader like Indira Gandhi.. all our neighbors would have sat quietly...but we would have had to pay price for that with something as Pakistan now doing because of her mistake during soviet war.i would like to take example from china.. because whenever they had any objective they always took that to a logical end.. which we haven't been able to do because we lacked leaders with guts..
i am not telling here that we had to occupy Pakistan.. that was never our objective.. but as this article points out .. we could have taken *** .. that would have sent right signals to them... now they consider we cannot do anything .. so they export terrorism even though whole world know about it but still we are targeted... we simply do nothing..this is where our leaders guts can be questioned... and Pakistan always had leader who had guts... means mainly military which holds Pakistan's foreign policy for most part of it's life.

Wrong it is not Indira but the Nuke that stops the war, if there was no Nuke. We would had a war maybe.

Also I do not think we have done a good job with armed force to stay conventionally way superiour than Pakistan. So result could not have been as you are predicting.

Note : - I am not a war monger and I will not like to have a war irrespective of Nukes or not. Just putting my point.

 

[Patrician]

As pointed out before, Indira Gandhi supported terrorists and mass murderers in East Pakistan in 1971, along with insurgents, all of whom were involved in destabilizing a nation and spreading chaos in it.

Indian support Indira Gandhi's policies against Pakistan in 1971 is blatant support for terrorism and terrorists, and is utterly hypocritical given Indian shrieking and whining about the insurgency in Kashmir.

AM care to quantify how many? 1 mil? 2 mil? 3 mil?

Cmon AM, you are sitting in US, you have access to all the media in the world. Please do not force Indians to enlighten you.

By the way call them terrorists/mukti bahini or what you will, the fact remains that your army did commit genocide which is well documented by international news agencies.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/20866-operation-searchlight-tape-transcript.html----Defence.pk archive

Operation Searchlight : The Background of 25th March Genocide x a n t h i s

Operation Searchlight

You know what AM, a major reason why no body in India and not many in the world regard your claim of supporting kashmir cause as justified because your army has itself the blood of millions of innocents on its hands.

Now please don't say that everyone who says that your army did massacre millions in east pakistan is wrong and only you are correct. It is well documented and you have internet at your leisure and if you still persist on your incorrect stand, then nobody can help it.

I respect you AM, please look at things in a rational way.

 

[Hulk]

As pointed out before, Indira Gandhi supported terrorists and mass murderers in East Pakistan in 1971, along with insurgents, all of whom were involved in destabilizing a nation and spreading chaos in it.

Indian support Indira Gandhi's policies against Pakistan in 1971 is blatant support for terrorism and terrorists, and is utterly hypocritical given Indian shrieking and whining about the insurgency in Kashmir.

Will you be kind enough to provide a single non Pakistani link that say's people who fought in 1971 were terrorist?

 

[Omar1984]

This is for everyone to read and understand.

Anyone who met several Pakistanis and then met several indians already know that Pakistanis are straightforward and indians are cunning, devious, and malicious. Both Nixon and Kissinger knew that.

 

[Markus]

Anyone who met several Pakistanis and then met several indians already know that Pakistanis are straightforward and indians are cunning, devious, and malicious. Both Nixon and Kissinger knew that.

You added those two words from your side.

 

[bandit]

Anyone who met several Pakistanis and then met several indians already know that Pakistanis are straightforward and indians are cunning, devious, and malicious. Both Nixon and Kissinger knew that.

Nixon said this too...you believe him right?

Indira Gandhi sought stronger links with the Soviet Union
Mr Kissinger then says: "Those sons-of-bitches, who never have lifted a finger for us, why should we get involved in the morass of East Pakistan?
"If East Pakistan becomes independent, it is going to become a cesspool. It's going to be 100 million people, they have the lowest standard of living in Asia."

 

[Omar1984]

Nixon said this too...you believe him right?

When he said "son-of-bitches" he meant indians. read the article again.

In a White House conversation with Mr Kissinger on 4 June 1971, President Nixon berates his ambassador to India, Kenneth Keating, for wanting to, as Mr Kissinger puts it, "help India push the Pakistanis out".

President Nixon says: "I don't want him to come in with that kind of jackass thing with me... Keating, like every ambassador who goes over there, goes over there and gets sucked in."

Mr Kissinger then says: "Those sons-of-bitches, who never have lifted a finger for us, why should we get involved in the morass of East Pakistan?

"If East Pakistan becomes independent, it is going to become a cesspool. It's going to be 100 million people, they have the lowest standard of living in Asia."


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