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India's NSG membership can't be farewell gift: China to US
PTI | Jan 16, 2017, 03.19 PM IST
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  • NSG membership can't be given as farewell gift to India, China said to US
  • On India's entry to NSG, China said it is a regret that no consensus has been reached so far
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BEIJING: China on Monday said admission of non-NPT signatories in NSG cannot be a "farewell gift" for countries to give to each other, a day after the outgoing Obama administration asserted that Beijing was an "outlier" in the efforts to make India a member of the elite nuclear club.

"Regarding India's application to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), regarding non-NPT countries admission to the NSG, we have made our position clear before so I will not repeat it," Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told a media briefing here, reacting to remarks by US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia, Nisha Desai Biswal, on the issue.

"Clearly there is one outlier that needs to be addressed and that is China," Biswal had said on India's NSG membership bid.

"I just want to point out that NSG membership shall not be some kind of (a) farewell gift for countries to give to each other," Hua said, taking a dig at the Obama administration.

China has been blocking India's membership bid for the 48- member grouping despite backing from majority members on the grounds that India is not a signatory to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).

China is advocating a two-step approach for admission of countries who have not signed the NPT.

As per the new stand announced by Beijing, it first wants to find a solution that is applicable to the admission of all non-NPT countries followed by discussions on admitting specific nations.

Besides India, China is also interacting with Pakistan on the issue as Islamabad, too, applied for NSG membership after India.

On the issue of China's technical hold on India's application to get Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar banned by the UN, Hua took an exception to the criticism that Beijing had blocked the UN ban on him.

Answering a question about French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault's comments calling for "decisive action" against Pakistan-based terror groups like LeT, JeM and Hizbul Mujahideen which are "targeting" India, Hua said, "I don't like the word block."

"As we have explained our position before, on this question, the 1267 Committee needs to base its decision on solid evidence, follow relevant resolutions and rules of procedure and make a decision based on consensus. The technical hold China proposed is to allow more time for consultation and deliberation," she said.

Asked whether China will re-think over this issue this year if India files a fresh application as the previous one lapsed due to two technical holds by Beijing, Hua said, "China raised the technical hold to give more space for deliberation and consultation".

"It is a regret that no consensus has been reached so far. We need more consensus and more time for deliberation so as to reach a consensus," Hua said

"We need more time for deliberations so as to reach a consensus and the committee will follow relevant resolutions and rules of procedure. We will remain in touch with relevant parties on this," she said.



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Do not cry China!

We know we are privileged,has excellent track record and fulfilled every criteria that is needed to get NSG membership. It is you who has myopic view and got exposed.

It is not the US which is giving India the membership, it is the world that has voted in favour of India except handful of countries including you.

You are trying to hide your failure and also trying to make US as primary reason for your pathetic stand and diplomacy.

If you do not change your myopic policies towards India , them I am afraid you will have tough time ahead in UN.

Next stop UNSC permanent seat. Best of luck !

I am sure you will also bat for your partner Pakistan. Try telling the truth to your people what really happened and where your fault is there and as a consequence how India China relations got affected.
 
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Do not cry China!

We know we are privileged,has excellent track record and fulfilled every criteria that is need to get NSG membership. It is you who has myopic view and got exposed.

It is not the US which is giving India the membership, it is the world that has voted in favour of India except handful of countries including you.

You are trying to hide your failure and also trying to make US as primary reason for your pathetic stand and diplomacy.

If you do not change your myopic policies towards India , them I am afraid you will have tough time ahead in UN.

Next stop UNSC permanent seat. Best of luck !

I am sure you will also bat for your partner Pakistan. Try telling the truth to your people what really happened and where your fault is there and as a consequence how India China relations got affected.

aww such a heart felt post
 
It is not the US which is giving India the membership, it is the world that has voted in favour of India except handful of countries including you.

So how come India sold their sovereignty to the US military by signing the LEMOA? :lol:

You sold your national sovereignty to America for an NSG seat, and you didn't even get it. No refunds, sorry.

You guys think that Westerners are deities, that they can simply override veto power of non-Western countries. Sorry, that's not how it works.
 
So how come India sold their sovereignty to the US military by signing the LEMOA? :lol:

You sold your national sovereignty to America for an NSG seat, and you didn't even get it. No refunds, sorry.

You guys think that Westerners are deities, that they can simply override veto power of non-Western countries. Sorry, that's not how it works.

The LEMOA is not much. It institutionalizes the existing ad-hoc system of refuelling and resupplying military vessels. In its current form no troops are allowed to be stationed. Go to the DOD website and see the list of countries who've signed LEMOAs.

A far cry from pakistan that lets the US operate UAV and aircraft at will over its airspace, shoot missiles at targets and sends secret missions to take out terrorists hiding a stones throw away from the premier military academy. Kerry just announced it's one of the few countries where the US has built a Tactical Operations Centre.

Anyway, given that the US once upon a time dictated chinese foreign policy and stationed troops in China at will, China is hardly in a position to speak out against the practice.
 
The LEMOA is not much. It institutionalizes the existing ad-hoc system of refuelling and resupplying military vessels. In its current form no troops are allowed to be stationed. Go to the DOD website and see the list of countries who've signed LEMOAs.

A far cry from pakistan that lets the US operate UAV and aircraft at will over its airspace, shoot missiles at targets and sends secret missions to take out terrorists hiding a stones throw away from the premier military academy. Kerry just announced it's one of the few countries where the US has built a Tactical Operations Centre.

Anyway, given that the US once upon a time dictated chinese foreign policy and stationed troops in China at will, China is hardly in a position to speak out against the practice.

Yet Pakistan had enough pride to avoid signing the LEMOA. :lol:

The bottom line is that Indians expected that the USA could single-handedly get them the NSG and UNSC seats. They didn't even bother to ask China for our support, because we are not Westerners.

I guess this is why the Indians put Aryans from outside of India at the very top of the caste system.
 
So how come India sold their sovereignty to the US military by signing the LEMOA? :lol:

You sold your national sovereignty to America for an NSG seat, and you didn't even get it. No refunds, sorry.

You guys think that Westerners are deities, that they can simply override veto power of non-Western countries. Sorry, that's not how it works.
This is your delusion !

You have no complete idea of the agreement.

We are not the ones who imitate and copy not only westerners life style but also their cities.

You are increasingly adopting western faith, your youth imitate westerners leaving dharmic values, yet you come here and delude yourself that we worship westerners as deities.

We are a proud civilisation and we know exactly how to protect our values and life style.
 
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This is your delusion !

You have no complete idea of the agreement.

We are not the ones who imitate and copy not only westerners life style but also their cities.

You are not increasingly adopting western faith, your youth imitate westerners leaving dharmic values, yet you come here and delude yourself that we worship westerners as deities.

We are a proud civilisations and we know exactly how to protect our values and life style.

Hmm is that why all of India's national borders are named after white British people like Henry McMahon?

Or why India's system of laws and government are British, and written in English?

When you fought China on the border (McMahon Line), you were fighting for the legacy of Henry McMahon, who was a white British man.
 
Yet Pakistan had enough pride to avoid signing the LEMOA. :lol:

The bottom line is that Indians expected that the USA could single-handedly get them the NSG and UNSC seats. They didn't even bother to ask China for our support, because we are not Westerners.

I guess this is why the Indians put Aryans from outside of India at the very top of the caste system.

Pakistan has a much more comprehensive agreement with the US - understandably so.

They didn't even bother to ask China for our support, because we are not Westerners.

You may be right about this - perhaps not so much because of the westerner-issue but because perhaps it was felt not much would come of it.

Nonetheless the indian external affairs folks should have anticipated a situation in which China objected. Big shortcoming there.

Hmm is that why all of India's national borders are named after white British people like Henry McMahon?

Haha, come on, be gentle.
 
Hmm is that why all of India's national borders are named after white British people like Henry McMohan?

Or why India's system of laws and government are British, and written in English?

When you fought China on the border, you were fighting for the legacy of Henry McMohan, who was a white British man.

Because as a civilisation we do not accept those illegal border lines.

Note: do not try to side track the discussion , you are the one to boast about China's capabilities to veto Indias advances. Here you are realising not only the situation but also with damaged ego.

Are you ok?
 
Pakistan has a much more comprehensive agreement with the US - understandably so.



You may be right about this - perhaps not so much because of the westerner-issue but because perhaps it was felt not much would come of it.

Nonetheless the indian external affairs folks should have anticipated a situation in which China objected. Big shortcoming there.



Haha, come on, be gentle.

Care to elaborate on this?
 
Care to elaborate on this?

The US has leased one or more airbases. A lease is the most comprehensive agreement that can be entered into.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.c...n-site-but-us-keeps-access-to-other-airbases/

Plus there's the tactical operations centre Kerry admitted to recently - not possible legally without a lease.

I'm not counting other logistical / reimbursement agreement for transit and supply of ISAF forces in Afghanistan - from Pakistan.
 

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