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Indian navy lowers the ensign and casts off its colonial ties.

In that case should China AirForce flag contain Russian flag as China planes are copys of Russia jets and it uses Russian engine as well.

Just using your theory here.

Just to remind Mr. Piecefull, the Pielstick engines in the Chinese frigates and other warships are French. The Gas turbines and Steam Turbines in the larger warships are Ukrainian, the sonars are French again, the SAMS are French., Italian and Russian. The Naval guns are Russian rip-offs, the radars on the warships are analogs of Russian ones, the CIWS is a rip-off of the Dutch system and the ASW/utility choppers are French. That is just the Chinese Navy. So that is a lot of flags that can be incorporated in the Chinese Navy ensign. LOLL.
And "know-all" Mr. Piecefull build his ships with "Rivets"? Is that how they do it in China?

Of course the idealogy of creation of the 90 year old CCP is actually Chinese. Or is it? Did Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and the lot also hold Chinese citizenship?
 
It is not pretty much Russian, looks nothing like it. How is it wasting time, its a new flag, not a new fleet of warships. lol


you do realize all flags need to be replaced, on all ships, navy bases, factories, schools. then all official documents currently being prepared need to be reviewed to have the old flag replaced. computer systems, web sites need to be updated to replace the flags. All foreign countries, especially those with navy exchange with india, need to be officially notified so they can have you fancy new flag in warehouse?

you can argue this doesn't cost much compared to building a ship.

my argument is clear: is there better thing to do when almost everything on Kolkata class need to be imported or licensed?
 
we do have a flag which is pretty "russian" I say. see the red flag and those stars?

the point is we admit that some core components still can't be built on our own, so we choose not to waste time on those "flags" purely to fuel nationalism.

Our navy our ensign where it hurts for you???????????????? What if our weapon system are imported our priorities are not defence or its related industries only up until now we are focusing on this segment seriously hence version 2 of Tejas and Arjun also missile programmes are on full throttle compared to before give us some time till we first prove ourselves then we will see..........till then please shut up
 
you do realize all flags need to be replaced, on all ships, navy bases, factories, schools. then all official documents currently being prepared need to be reviewed to have the old flag replaced. computer systems, web sites need to be updated to replace the flags. All foreign countries, especially those with navy exchange with india, need to be officially notified so they can have you fancy new flag in warehouse?

you can argue this doesn't cost much compared to building a ship.

my argument is clear: is there better thing to do when almost everything on Kolkata class need to be imported or licensed?

sorry that is not the case nothing needs to be changed everything will be documented just the way it was and dude where do you come up with this imaginary issues sooooooooooo joblessssssssss huh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
you do realize all flags need to be replaced, on all ships, navy bases, factories, schools. then all official documents currently being prepared need to be reviewed to have the old flag replaced. computer systems, web sites need to be updated to replace the flags. All foreign countries, especially those with navy exchange with india, need to be officially notified so they can have you fancy new flag in warehouse?

you can argue this doesn't cost much compared to building a ship.

my argument is clear: is there better thing to do when almost everything on Kolkata class need to be imported or licensed?

India is growing at 10% Economic growth, I am sure India can manage changing all the flags on the ships and in schools, army centre, shopping centre, the flag in my house etc. lol :woot:

Anyway thank you about worrying the cost of changing the flags. :what:
 
India is growing at 10% Economic growth, I am sure India can manage changing all the flags on the ships and in schools, army centre, shopping centre, the flag in my house etc. lol :woot:

Anyway thank you about worrying the cost of changing the flags. :what:


Exactly look how concerned he is......shame on us for not showing even 0.0000001% of his concern:cheesy:
 
There is a reason for that. (Refer Post# 16).Traditionally, the Flag of the Navy is called a "White Ensign". So it stands to reason that it will remain white in color. Othe Govt. owned ships fly a "Blue Ensign". Which is a some what similar flag with a blue field. While Merchant Navy Ships fly a "Red Ensign", which again is a flag with a red field. Colloquially; in the days past, these flags were also called the "Blue Duster" and "Red Duster" respectively. But that is just a touch of "salty humor".

Of course there is now the possibilty that Mr. Piecefull will claim vehemently that India "imported" the idea of the "Red Ensign" from Russia along with "rivets" to build warships!!! LOLL.
 
you do realize all flags need to be replaced, on all ships, navy bases, factories, schools. then all official documents currently being prepared need to be reviewed to have the old flag replaced. computer systems, web sites need to be updated to replace the flags. All foreign countries, especially those with navy exchange with india, need to be officially notified so they can have you fancy new flag in warehouse?

you can argue this doesn't cost much compared to building a ship.

my argument is clear: is there better thing to do when almost everything on Kolkata class need to be imported or licensed?

It's simple. One single country doesnot have the best of tech in a single ship. India has managed to combine tech from multiple origins to make great equipment. For eg.Sukhoi 30MKI is russian, Indian, Israeli and French. It's acclaimed to be better than the original.
By your logic no country in the world except US and Russia should have their own ensign.
 
LOL @ peaceful your saying when we copy our weapons systems when the main anti ship missile of the PLAN is the silkworm and you guys copied that off the Soviet P-15 termit lets not forget about the good old J-11 completely Chinese right??? WRONG i can pull up countless reports and videos but good old capt popeye did most of the exposing for me :lol:

 
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You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Just like the Chinese copycatting everything including the Japanese commode?

They copycat even Japanese Ads.

Imagine even ads!

Meaning Chinese have no imagination beyond copycatting!

 
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You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Let me give you details:

Engine: Zorya, Ukrainian
Radar: IAI, Israel
Air search Radar: Thales, France
Electricity generation: Wärtsilä, Finland
Electronic warfare: Elbit, Israel
Surface to air missile: Barak, Israel
CIWS: AK-630, Russia
Anti-submarine: RBU-6000, Russia

this list goes longer than this. computer system are all imported, even the rivet and shockingly the electricity wire need to be imported.

This still has nothing to do with the topic, so please leave the subject for another thread.
 
i think it was good for IN to get the new Ensign in my opinion the new one looks way better the Royal navy taught us well but keeping there traditions is weird and wrong we should make our own traditions and keep them not keep the old ones used by the country that we fought tooth and nail to get independence from

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Great news!! I always hated the old IN flag but thought nothing would/could be done about it. The British did nothing for India but subvert and butcher millions of people for their own selfish greed. Good on you IN!!
 

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