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Indian navy lowers the ensign and casts off its colonial ties.

By Rahul Bedi in New Delhi

12:01AM BST 24 Aug 2001

THE Indian navy has finally severed its colonial ties 54 years after independence by ditching its English ensign.

The navy has replaced the ensign, based on the red cross of St George with an Indian flag in the top left quadrant, with a new flag.

This also contains the Indian flag, but includes the navy crest of an anchor topped by the three-faced Ashoka lion.

Naval officers said one reason for the extended delay in shedding the colonial symbol was that, for almost a decade after independence, British officers continued to lead the Royal Indian Navy.

A retired officer said: "Once traditions are embraced in the military, they are hard to shed."

The first Indian navy chiefs of staff after independence were Rear-Adml J T S Hall, and Vice-Admls Sir Edward Parry, Sir Mark Pizey and Peter Carlisle, all of whom helped the service find its sea legs in the post-colonial era.

The navy's royal prefix was dropped in 1950, three years after independence, and although the proposal to change its ensign was first mooted in the Seventies, many officers opposed the move on grounds of tradition.

Royal Navy uniforms - bell-bottom trousers, folded seven times to represent the seven seas, the Nelson collar and the peakless cap for the ratings - also remained until the Seventies.

Some British traditions still survive. Several Indian army regiments trace their roots to the era of the East India Company in the 17th and 18th centuries, especially in their messes, many of which are decorated with artifacts made by English silversmiths.

The National Defence Staff College, in the Niligri mountains of southern India, has an eight-month jackal-hunting season.

Kennels import hounds from England and officers observe a strict sartorial and culinary code, in line with English hunting mores.

Indian navy lowers the ensign and casts off its colonial ties - Telegraph
 
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I have a point: the entire navy relies on foreign equipments, thus it is not a big deal to keep the colonial ties or not.

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the Indian navy is the only one of the armed forces that uses a majority of indigenous equipment buddy

Sonars
DRDO, BEL and the Indian Navy have developed and productionized a range of Sonars and related systems for the Indian Navy's frontline combat ships.


The Shivalik class of frigates contain significant DRDO developed systems
These include the:
APSOH (Advanced Panoramic SOnar Hull mounted),
HUMVAD (Hull Mounted Variable Depth sonar),
HUMSA (Follow on to the APSOH series; the acronym HUMSA stands for Hull Mounted Sonar Array),
Nagan (Towed Array Sonar),
Panchendriya (Submarine sonar and fire control system).
Other sonars such as the airborne sonar Mihir, are in trials, whilst work is proceeding apace on a new generation of sonars. Sonars may be considered one of DRDO's most successful achievements as the Indian Navy's most powerful ships rely on DRDO made sonars. The standard fit for a frontline Naval ship would include the HUMSA-NG hull mounted sonar, and the Nagan towed array sonar. The Mihir, is a dunking sonar meant for use by the Naval ALH, working in conjunction with its Tadpole sonobuoy. The Panchendriya is in production for the Kilo class submarine upgrades

The Hindu : 50 years on, NPOL in fine fettle


warships

the Brahmaputra class frigate using Indian propulsion systems made by BHEL developed and built by GRSE (garden reach shipbuilders and engineers)

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CRN-91 Naval gun developed by OFB & BEL

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ithe Indian navy is the only arm of the 3 forces that takes pride in using warships and systems developed and made in India a good chunk of their warship fleet may be foreign but most of their ships are Indian made adding on the primary EW system for an IN ship is the BEL Ajanta.... see i could post several pics of indigenous warships developed by Mazagon dock ltd GRSE Hindustan shipyard ltd Goa shipyard ltd etc but i would be wasting my time as i can see your an ignorant troll :rofl:
 
So Shivalik classs frigates,Kolkata class destroyer,IAC,Bhramaputra class etc etc are all foreign.

You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Let me give you details:

Engine: Zorya, Ukrainian
Radar: IAI, Israel
Air search Radar: Thales, France
Electricity generation: Wärtsilä, Finland
Electronic warfare: Elbit, Israel
Surface to air missile: Barak, Israel
CIWS: AK-630, Russia
Anti-submarine: RBU-6000, Russia

this list goes longer than this. computer system are all imported, even the rivet and shockingly the electricity wire need to be imported.
 
You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Let me give you details:

Engine: Zorya, Ukrainian
Radar: IAI, Israel
Air search Radar: Thales, France
Electricity generation: Wärtsilä, Finland
Electronic warfare: Elbit, Israel
Surface to air missile: Barak, Israel
CIWS: AK-630, Russia
Anti-submarine: RBU-6000, Russia

this list goes longer than this. computer system are all imported, even the rivet and shockingly the electricity wire need to be imported.
Garden Reach Shipbuilders is also foreign is it?
 
You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Let me give you details:

Engine: Zorya, Ukrainian
Radar: IAI, Israel
Air search Radar: Thales, France
Electricity generation: Wärtsilä, Finland
Electronic warfare: Elbit, Israel
Surface to air missile: Barak, Israel
CIWS: AK-630, Russia
Anti-submarine: RBU-6000, Russia

this list goes longer than this. computer system are all imported, even the rivet and shockingly the electricity wire need to be imported.
Garden Reach Shipbuilders is also foreign is it?
 
You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Let me give you details:

Engine: Zorya, Ukrainian
Radar: IAI, Israel
Air search Radar: Thales, France
Electricity generation: Wärtsilä, Finland
Electronic warfare: Elbit, Israel
Surface to air missile: Barak, Israel
CIWS: AK-630, Russia
Anti-submarine: RBU-6000, Russia

this list goes longer than this. computer system are all imported, even the rivet and shockingly the electricity wire need to be imported.

In that case should China AirForce flag contain Russian flag as China planes are copys of Russia jets and it uses Russian engine as well.

Just using your theory here.
 
In that case should China AirForce flag contain Russian flag as China planes are copys of Russia jets and it uses Russian engine as well.

Just using your theory here.

we do have a flag which is pretty "russian" I say. see the red flag and those stars?

the point is we admit that some core components still can't be built on our own, so we choose not to waste time on those "flags" purely to fuel nationalism.
 
we do have a flag which is pretty "russian" I say. see the red flag and those stars?

the point is we admit that some core components still can't be built on our own, so we choose not to waste time on those "flags" purely to fuel nationalism.

It is not pretty much Russian, looks nothing like it. How is it wasting time, its a new flag, not a new fleet of warships. lol

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Background seems to boring, plain white.
 
You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Let me give you details:

Engine: Zorya, Ukrainian
Radar: IAI, Israel
Air search Radar: Thales, France
Electricity generation: Wärtsilä, Finland
Electronic warfare: Elbit, Israel
Surface to air missile: Barak, Israel
CIWS: AK-630, Russia
Anti-submarine: RBU-6000, Russia

this list goes longer than this. computer system are all imported, even the rivet and shockingly the electricity wire need to be imported.

can someone please ban this troll???? he's bringing up discussion about Indian navy imports on a thread about changing the Indian navy ensign if your so interested on posting about Indian navy imports go and create your own thread or post it on the navy discussion and like i said look at the "indigenous" equipment we have already made e.g BEL Ajanta, CRN-91 Naval Gun, several sonars built by the DRDO like HUMSA, propulsion systems developed by BHEL used on brahmaputra class frigate
 
You are right. You should als realize that your Kolkata class is being laughed by many military observers as a "world navy systems expo"?

Let me give you details:

Engine: Zorya, Ukrainian
Radar: IAI, Israel
Air search Radar: Thales, France
Electricity generation: Wärtsilä, Finland
Electronic warfare: Elbit, Israel
Surface to air missile: Barak, Israel
CIWS: AK-630, Russia
Anti-submarine: RBU-6000, Russia

this list goes longer than this. computer system are all imported, even the rivet and shockingly the electricity wire need to be imported.



if we build something you tease us if we buy something you tease us!!!!!!!!!!! Bro our money our problem
 
It is not pretty much Russian, looks nothing like it. How is it wasting time, its a new flag, not a new fleet of warships. lol

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Background seems to boring, plain white.

what color do you want it to be? i say it stay white because the original ensign background was white
 

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