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Indian air force testing new basic trainer


Trials of a new basic trainer for the Indian air force have begun, with seven aircraft vying to replace the service's grounded Hindustan Aeronautics HPT-32 Deepaks.

"The trial is ongoing, but we have no timeline for making a decision," the Indian defence ministry says.

Aircraft in contention for the planned 75-aircraft deal are the Airbus Military-promoted PZL-130 Orlik, Alenia Aermacchi M-311, Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano, Grob G120TP, Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1 and Pilatus PC-7.

Indian media reports suggest that Hawker Beechcraft's T-6C is also in contention, but the US aircraft maker has yet to confirm this.

The Indian defence ministry's initial request for proposal in early 2010 called for 75 aircraft to be purchased "off-the-shelf", and another 106 to be built by HAL under a joint venture arrangement.

Under current plans, the selected manufacturer will be required to deliver an initial batch of 12 aircraft within two years of a contract signature.

The air force's HPT-32 Deepaks were grounded in July 2009 following a spate of crashes.

Meanwhile, following New Delhi's decision in July to spend more than £700 million ($1 billion) on a further batch of 57 BAE Systems Hawk 132s, an air force source confirms that the country is no longer looking at other advanced jet trainers.

In early 2009 India requested information on the Hawk 128, plus the Aero Vodochody L-159, Alenia Aermacchi M-346, Korea Aerospace Industries/Lockheed Martin T-50, RSK MiG-AT and Yakovlev Yak-130.

India's latest deal represented a follow-on purchase to a previous order for 66 Hawk 132s. All of the new aircraft will be produced under licence by HAL in Bangalore.
 
Does anybody have seen the RFI of this competition, or have an idea which trainers really enter it? The reports often talks about different trainers, or at least different versions. The Alenia Aermacchi M-311 for example doesn't fit into this competition, because it is a jet trainer:

Aermacchi_M-311.jpg


Alenia Aermacchi M-311 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It might have been in the competition for AJTs, that the BAE Hawk won, but is defenitelly wrong here.
 
Does anybody have seen the RFI of this competition, or have an idea which trainers really enter it? The reports often talks about different trainers, or at least different versions. The Alenia Aermacchi M-311 for example doesn't fit into this competition, because it is a jet trainer:

Aermacchi_M-311.jpg


Alenia Aermacchi M-311 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It might have been in the competition for AJTs, that the BAE Hawk won, but is defenitelly wrong here.

It was in competition for the AJT, but got eliminated early on. The final play-off there was between the Hawk and AlphaJet. Hawk got selected.
 
While i am not really an expert here; the Super Tucano and Hawker Beechcraft have an edge. While they are turbo-props, their controls and handling characteristics are very similar to jets. So the transition from props to jets becomes easier for rookie pilots.
 
Why can't we make our own basic trainer? If we can make the Sitara then why not a basic trainer?

May be in the future. There is no point in taking on too many projects at the same time. Though we can be pretty sure that concept drawings, studies and plans are already in place. Must not forget that it is sometimes more cost effective to buy off the shelf.
Then the life of trainers is longer than fighters. n.b. the HJT-16 Kiran first flew in 1964.
 
It was in competition for the AJT, but got eliminated early on. The final play-off there was between the Hawk and AlphaJet. Hawk got selected.

That's what I meant, but this competition is for prop trainers and still nearlly all reports says it is a contender. :undecided:

Why can't we make our own basic trainer? If we can make the Sitara then why not a basic trainer?

We can, but the problems with the actual trainers needs a fast replacement, without much development time. That's why they might search not only for a foreign trainer, but possibly for a co-development partner too.
I would like to see Embraer to win this deal, the Tucanos should be a good choice and it would deepen our relations to Brazil. Combined with a co-development for a new trainer this would be a win for all.
 
That's what I meant, but this competition is for prop trainers and still nearlly all reports says it is a contender. :undecided:



We can, but the problems with the actual trainers needs a fast replacement, without much development time. That's why they might search not only for a foreign trainer, but possibly for a co-development partner too.
I would like to see Embraer to win this deal, the Tucanos should be a good choice and it would deepen our relations to Brazil. Combined with a co-development for a new trainer this would be a win for all.

Actually it is an excellent aircraft, it is used by the RAF for many years already. It is made in UK as the Shorts Tucano. One noteworthy point is that it has similar controls as the Hawk. This point is likely to have some weightage in the Indian selection process.
 

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