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India-Saudi Arabia Ties: Scaling New Heights

Prime Minister Modi’s latest trip to Riyadh underscores a growing relationship.

Alvite Ningthoujam

October 28, 2019

A harbinger of the growing closeness between New Delhi and Riyadh is the number of high-level visits by political leaders from both countries in recent years. For the second time, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is travelling to Saudi Arabia to attend the Future Investment Summit to be held in Riyadh on October 29-31. The frequency of such visits clearly manifests the strategic importance accorded by both countries to one another. It is expected, during Modi’s visit, that both sides will sign energy deals, including the promise of Saudi participation in India’s strategic petroleum reserve. Further, details about the planned Indo-Saudi Strategic Partnership Council are likely to be discussed.

Today’s Indo-Saudi cooperation is no longer restricted to the traditional sphere of oil-energy trade. Instead, the relationship has become multifaceted thanks to the impetus given by the leaderships of both countries to other areas, including defense, maritime security, counterterrorism, science and technology, strategic oil reserves, investments, tourism, and so on. This bonhomie has come about at a time when mega economic reform programs are underway in Saudi Arabia, for which it welcomes India’s economic as well as technological assistance. Likewise, New Delhi looks for Saudi investments in India’s petrochemicals, infrastructure, and mining sectors alongside cooperation in economic and security matters.

That transformation was brought about by strong political will in both India and Saudi Arabia to take relations to new heights. The current scenario is unlike the Cold War period when India-Saudi Arabia ties were mainly determined by the Pakistani factor. For decades, this prevented both New Delhi and Riyadh from discovering the strategic importance of engaging one another. But, over a period, they have begun to disentangle themselves from certain inhibitions of the past. Lately, there have been indications that Saudi Arabia is less interested in meddling in India’s internal affairs. This could be a reason why the Saudi government, during National Security Advisor Ajit Doval’s visit to Riyadh early October this year, reportedly conveyed that it understood India’s “approach” and “actions” regarding the abrogation of Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir. This neutral stance taken by Saudi Arabia is telling for India, particularly considering Pakistan’s concerted attempts to internationalize the issue.

Alongside the growing politico-economic ties, cooperation in the security realm is significantly progressing. Doval’s visit could be viewed as another step taken to intensify security engagements as both sides remain concerned by the ongoing security situation in their respective regions. While India continues to face cross-border terrorism (including seaborne threats), Saudi Arabia remains vulnerable to frequent missile and drone attacks on its civilian dwellings as well as on its major oil fields, including the strike on Aramco’s oil processing plant, Abqaiq, and the Khurais oilfield on September 14 this year.

In view of the above, the agreement reached during the visit of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to India in February to constitute a “Comprehensive Security Dialogue” at the national sector adviser (NSA) level and set up a Joint Working Group on Counter-Terrorism was timely. Both countries face multidimensional security threats, not only on land, air, and sea, but also in cyberspace. The regular conduct of NSA-level security dialogues could enable both sides to explore new areas of cooperation alongside reinforcing the already thriving bilateral engagements. Saudi Arabia, despite being one of the military powers in the Middle East and spending billions of dollars annually on arms purchases, appears to have limited experience in countering threats from groups like Houthi militias, who have mastered guerrilla warfare tactics for several years. This is an area where India’s expertise in fighting such threats could be imparted to the Saudi side, by enhancing joint military training programs and exercises as agreed in the MoU signed in February 2014. Simultaneously, as Saudi Arabia has interests to play a role in the Indian Ocean region, uplifting cooperation in the maritime security domain from the current status would be in the interest of both countries. Going a step further in this domain, navies of both countries will hold their first joint naval exercises either toward the end of 2019 or at the beginning of next year. This is a significant move, which is important from the prism of maritime security cooperation as well as to safeguard international trade via sea routes.

Meanwhile, space is an important domain where bilateral engagements could be strengthened. The burgeoning space-related programs currently pursued by countries like Saudi Arabia and the UAE coincide with India’s upward trajectory in this sector, raising the prospect for further cooperation. India could explore the possibility to engage with the newly established Saudi Space Agency, which is expected to become the focal point for all programs related to Saudi’s international space cooperation. Until now, much of the kingdom’s space and satellite activities have emanated from the King Abdulaziz City of Science and Technology (KACST), which is responsible for “satellite manufacturing and research and development, as well as for implementing and managing space science and exploration research and missions.” Indo-Saudi cooperation in space, for now, lacks progress since the signing of an MoU between the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) and KACST in February 2010. Such a lacklustre picture contrasts with the overall bilateral ties growing by leaps and bounds. However, as the kingdom is focusing on developing its potential in the field of space technology, it could turn for assistance toward countries with advanced experience in space science, including India. Remote sensing, satellite communication, and satellite-based navigation are some of the areas where both countries could jointly work and mutually benefit.

Suffice to say, India and Saudi Arabia are gradually scaling new heights by wielding their foreign policies with craftsmanship. Realpolitik and the strategic interests of both sides have been instrumental in bringing the ties closer than ever before. Both governments have become cognizant of the fact that they have more to gain by solely focusing on their national interests, rather than letting their bilateral ties be dictated by a third party. As the momentum has been set, it is up to the respective leaders to fructify their talks, the agreements, and most importantly, the optics.

https://thediplomat.com/2019/10/india-saudi-arabia-ties-scaling-new-heights/
 
Mashallah ya habibi. If they both are happy who are we to point fingers? All we can do is to give them prayer of blessings,

"Ya Allah, may they stay together in this world and here after"
 
Mashallah ya habibi. If they both are happy who are we to point fingers? All we can do is to give them prayer of blessings,

"Ya Allah, may they stay together in this world and here after"

In the Hadith collections, the prophet is reported to have said:

"The Hour shall not be established until tribes of my Ummah unite with the idolaters, and until they worship idols." (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2219)

"What I fear most for my nation is misguiding leaders. Some tribes among my nation will worship idols and some tribes among my nation will join the idolaters." (Sunan Ibn Majah 3952)

"Only the wicked people would survive and they would be as careless as birds with the characteristics of beasts. They would never appreciate the good nor condemn evil. Then Satan would come to them in human form and would say: Don't you respond? And they would say: What do you order us? And he would command them to worship the idols but, in spite of this, they would have abundance of sustenance and lead comfortable lives." (Sahih Muslim 2940 a)

"The Hour will not be established till the buttocks of the women of the tribe of Daus move while going round Dhi-al-Khalasa." (Sahih al-Bukhari 7116)"


Their is another hadith where the Prophet PBUH woke up in the middle of the night and he said he see's azab (tribulation) on the Arab(s). These so called Arab(s) right now are Muslim by name only and attribute no Islamic value what so ever. This is why I have no lover for Arab(s). Those who fought and established the religion have died over hundreds of years ago what we have today is just by product - waste.

No wonder the Prophet PBUH said he feels the cold wind from the East - and who you think will come Pakistani - Afghanistan and Muslims from this area.
 
The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times

24 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 
***Update***

India, Saudi Arabia to sign Strategic Partnership Council pact

OCTOBER 28, 2019

India and Saudi Arabia are set to sign an agreement for creating a bilateral strategic partnership council on Tuesday during the official visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to Riyadh. The council will include multiple sections involving the External Affairs Ministry and NITI Aayog and counterpart organisations from Saudi Arabia.

The council will be led by Mr. Modi and King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. Both sides are expected to seal several other agreements during Mr. Modi’s visit.

Source and full article:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-partnership-council-pact/article29816159.ece
 
"The Hour shall not be established until tribes of my Ummah unite with the idolaters, and until they worship idols." (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2219)
That hints at Imran Khan and his team.
All credit goes to them. Now stop complaining and crying and foaming like Sheriyar Afridi.
 
That hints at Imran Khan and his team.
All credit goes to them.

The Prophet is talking about the Arabs not IK, and I don't see how IK aligned with the Idolaters.

So you have no regret of loosing a decades old ally to India?

There actions do not show them being an ally, they are money hungry you've seen GCC Arabs statements.

The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times

24 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

No one cares what your corrupted books say starting from the 1st Edition to the 15th Edition.
 
What do you consider aligning with idolaters?

"The Hour shall not be established until tribes of my Ummah unite with the idolaters, and until they worship idols." (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2219)

It's very clear when you align yourself you unite for a common cause and have similar policies you protect one another from harm.

Look at UAE opening one of the biggest Temples on its soil - having Buddha statues on high way roads, these clowns have lost their ways.

"What I fear most for my nation is misguiding leaders. Some tribes among my nation will worship idols and some tribes among my nation will join the idolaters." (Sunan Ibn Majah 3952)

KSA and other's could have penalized India import sanctions, oil embargo among other things. But they decided not to take a stand for Muslims because as the Prophet said, These Arabs will not have fear of afterlife but love for this world and chasing its wealth back to what they used to do 1,400 years ago.


Also, let me say this Arabs have brought us the religion of Islam and took us out of the period of Jahilia but they are not it's owners - Allah can whose which ever nation to carry the flag of religion - from the Arabs it went to Mongols then to Ottoman - and who knows to where could be Europe?
 
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There actions do not show them being an ally, they are money hungry you've seen GCC Arabs statements.

Dude it's all started by Pakistan. Now keep doing what you are doing.
May be as next step Imran Khan shall award those millions, who were in Syria and Iraq.
 
"The Hour shall not be established until tribes of my Ummah unite with the idolaters, and until they worship idols." (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2219)

It's very clear when you align yourself you unite for a common cause and have similar policies you protect one another from harm.

Look at UAE opening one of the biggest Temples on its soil - having Buddha statues on high way roads, these clowns have lost their ways.

"What I fear most for my nation is misguiding leaders. Some tribes among my nation will worship idols and some tribes among my nation will join the idolaters." (Sunan Ibn Majah 3952)

KSA and other's could have penalized India import sanctions, oil embargo among other things. But they decided not to take a stand for Muslims because as the Prophet said, These Arabs will not have fear of afterlife but love for this world and chasing its wealth back to what they used to do 1,400 years ago.


Also, let me say this Arabs have brought us the religion of Islam and took us out of the period of Jahilia but they are not it's owners - Allah can whose which ever nation to carry the flag of religion - from the Arabs it went to Mongols then to Ottoman - and who knows to where could be Europe?

As i said earlier, it's all started by Pakistan, this is essentially showing you the middle finger, for all your back stabbings and betrayals.
https://www.asiatimes.com/2017/04/article/pakistans-unease-military-alliance-veers-farce/
https://ctc.usma.edu/the-implications-of-irans-expanding-shia-foreign-fighter-network/

Actually, all of Gulf nations are angry at Pakistan's diplomatic rapprochement over terror attacks on GCC.
As they say friends are judged, when you need them. Where was Pakistan, when missile was fired on Mecca?
https://gulfbusiness.com/saudi-intercepts-two-missiles-headed-towards-makkah-jeddah/
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2019/sep/16/timeline-houthi-attacks-saudi-arabia

Now if you still don't like Saudis, tell Imran Khan to do something about it or you have something else in mind?

When Nawaz Ganju said : Hum aik he khuda ko pujty hain.

We are talking here with allegation on Arabs based on some hadis.

Idol worshiping of Nawaz & Imran can be discussed some where else.
 
As i said earlier, it's all started by Pakistan, this is essentially showing you the middle finger, for all your back stabbings and betrayals.
https://www.asiatimes.com/2017/04/article/pakistans-unease-military-alliance-veers-farce/
https://ctc.usma.edu/the-implications-of-irans-expanding-shia-foreign-fighter-network/

Actually, all of Gulf nations are angry at Pakistan's diplomatic rapprochement over terror attacks on GCC.
As they say friends are judged, when you need them. Where was Pakistan, when missile was fired on Mecca?
https://gulfbusiness.com/saudi-intercepts-two-missiles-headed-towards-makkah-jeddah/
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2019/sep/16/timeline-houthi-attacks-saudi-arabia

Now if you still don't like Saudis, tell Imran Khan to do something about it or you have something else in mind?

I agree with how Pakistan didn't get involved in Arab quagmire with these sets of current ruler(s). They aren't even sincere with their own people within the Arab community and you think this lot would have supported Pakistan? We aren't dealing with the likes of King Faisal and Co., ask yourself this Iraqi's were supported by GCC against Iran and Kuwaiti's were slant drilling oil into Iraqi reserve's while Iraq was at war and Saddam told them to stop and they didn't which launched the Iraq-Kuwait War, and the shit faced daughter lying to the world community about babies being thrown out of there incubators. GCC asking Pakistani's to side with them against Iran and Co., when Lebanon was being bombed to shit Sunni's were dying also none said a peep about Israeli's. The Bahrain Foreign Minister told the Palestinians to shut up and accept what Trump is offering or you don't get shit, some support from GCC.

Had Pakistan sided with GCC, the Shia's in Pakistan making up 20% of our population would have been in an uproar. So our military chiefs did good to stay out.

Also, it's more about money than anything with GCC us sending our forces wouldn't have made any difference with GCC policies.

With those Nasal Humps, things always slide down.
 
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