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There were only a few people to begin with who really thought India’s economic growth rate would outpace China’s – at least anytime soon.

Now, those voices are likely to be fewer and weaker.

As China’s economic growth hovers close to double digits, India is having to admit its 9% Gross Domestic Product expansion goal for the year ending March 31 is now pretty unrealistic.

“Let me not hide the fact that I have been disappointed by our growth performance over the last few months. It is evident that India’s growth rate in 2011-12 will be less than what we were expecting in February when I presented the Budget,” Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee said in a speech during a media event on Wednesday.

In February, the finance minister said India’s economy was on track to expand 9% in the year through March 2012. On Wednesday, he hinted that 8% – or less –was more like it. That’s what “most observers” are expecting, Mr. Mukherjee said. He stopped short of making a formal growth forecast, saying he’ll share that with Parliament in December.

Those observers would appear to include the World Bank, which in a report released Wednesday echoed Mr. Mukherjee’s fears: it said that India’s economic growth is likely to slow from 8.5% last year to between 7% and 8% over the next two years. In other words, all those GDP headlines are likely to include a 7, or 7 point something, not the 8 or 9 or even 10 of the government’s dreams.

So what’s to blame? In his speech, Mr. Mukherjee said global financial woes – from high oil prices to the volatility of other commodity prices and capital flows – were largely responsible. Monetary policy tightening and interest rates, a response to the country’s uncomfortably high inflation, didn’t help either, he noted. These are points the World Bank also covered.

If –as the finance minister put it – “the dark clouds [that] have gathered in the global skies” are to blame, why isn’t China also suffering?

It appears that Beijing has done better than New Delhi at boosting domestic demand, an area that acquired greater relevance as Western countries are struggling with a prolonged economic slowdown.

“With the slow growth expected in core OECD countries, India’s GDP growth will have to rely on domestic growth drivers,” the report said. To do this, it said major structural reforms aimed at achieving fiscal consolidation (another big challenge for India) and at encouraging investment would be necessary. It said that “regulatory uncertainties” – ranging from environmental clearances to land acquisition laws to tax reforms – were holding back investors, an issue that is less of a problem in China. To strengthen domestic growth, it urged India to clear these up and to invest in infrastructure, among others.

China, by comparison, is now relying more heavily on its domestic demand and this is already helping its economy make up for a weaker export market.

Figures released earlier this week show that China’s gross domestic product expanded 9.1% in the quarter ended Sept. 30 from a year earlier, only slightly under analyst expectations of 9.2% growth.

The World Bank report also said that, compared to the current year, in the year through March 2011 India benefited from the strong performance of its agricultural sector, something that depends largely on a good monsoon.

Mr. Mukherjee invited his audience to look at the brighter side (rather than East.) “This is disappointing but at the same time we must not lose perspective of the global situation.”

However, China didn’t crop up in his comparison, which focused instead on debt-strapped Western countries – and their less than 2% growth.

India Loses More Ground on China - India Real Time - WSJ
 
In this forum expecting realism from the indian members is like expecting mango from a jackfruit tree.

Great news china is growing faster, Bad news India is not even able to achive 9%, we must work hard.............

but In slump of India's growth has certain magic, It seems to bring smiles to few bangladeshis and great pleasure to few other nationalities as well.. so sit back and enjoy our slump...

we'll continue to do what we do the best, work hard !!!
 
So what is surprise here global economy is slowing down..China will not able to make it double digit as it hoped ..India will not able to make it 9%(again as it hoped) and Pakistan will be lucky even if it makes it to 3%.

Past few years Indian economy growth has been 1-1.5% lower than China's both during good times and recession..so it is the same trend...nothing new.
 
So what is surprise here global economy is slowing down..China will not able to make it double digit as it hoped ..India will not able to make it 9%(again as it hoped) and Pakistan will be lucky even if it makes it to 3%.

Past few years Indian economy growth has been 1-1.5% lower than China's both during good times and recession..so it is the same trend...nothing new.

china has always officially aimed for 8% and in the future that goal will be lowered to 7% ish as we move away from the current model. The fact that it usually goes way above target is a different matter from what china had "hoped" for.
 
According to the Moody's ratings agency:

India’s economy is likely to grow at 6.5% by mid-2012 from a growth of 7.8% year on year (YoY) in the first half of 2011, predicts Moody’s Analytics, a division of the global rating agency Moody’s. The agency is calling the engineering of a monetary policy led slowdown to fight inflation as a ‘failure’.

Inflation has been identified as the main problem with the wholesale price index registering a 9.7% annual growth in September 2011.

India slowing down sharply: Moody

So much for the "double-digit growth race". India was never even able to sustain double-digits in the first place.
 
The slump in growth is not just limited India as some people want to believe and smugly happy about.

China's economic growth will probably cool next year to the lowest annual rate in a decade, setting the pace for an Asia-wide slowdown as global demand fades, a Reuters poll released on Thursday showed.

Asia's growth to slow in 2012, no China crash seen - The Economic Times

And we are likely to grow at 7.4 % in 2012

The Hindu : Business / Economy : Morgan Stanley lowers India

i dont want burst your bubble, but china has been trying to cool down her econonmy for sometimes , 9,1% grow is about right, i m sure china will not complaint at all, in contrast india is expected to grow about 8-9% and that forcast of 7.4% is well below target.
 
i dont want burst your bubble, but china has been trying to cool down her econonmy for sometimes , 9,1% grow is about right, i m sure china will not complaint at all, in contrast india is expected to grow about 8-9% and that forcast of 7.4% is well below target.

We can say the same thing. Frequent rate hikes have been eating into our growth rate, So in away this is self inflicted . In spite of all these we will be growing at 7 - 8 % in 2012, which is not much below exptected target.
 
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china has always officially aimed for 8% and in the future that goal will be lowered to 7% ish as we move away from the current model. The fact that it usually goes way above target is a different matter from what china had "hoped" for.

Exactly right. :tup:

China has officially been aiming for an 8% growth rate, for several years now.

We almost always surpass the target.

India on the other hand, always seems to fall short of their goal. They love to boast about everything, but when the time comes, they never reach it.
 
The reason for this is that India does not manipulate its currency nor does it dump shoddy cheap products in the markets. Do that and India you too will have short term extra growth of additional 2 points. But then you will have to live with a reputation like the chinese do in foreign markets
 
The reason for this is that India does not manipulate its currency nor does it dump shoddy cheap products in the markets. Do that and India you too will have short term extra growth of additional 2 points. But then you will have to live with a reputation like the chinese do in foreign markets

Keep trying to make excuses. lol
 
The growth rate in India is mainly affected by the frequent rate hikes by RBI,which is being done to control market liquidity.
But,yes,so far the present govt. is unable to bring inflation under control which is causing the rate hikes.

@Huan

try contributing something worthwhile to the topic,or stay away from subjects that you don't understand head or tail of.....
 
The growth rate in India is mainly affected by the frequent rate hikes by RBI,which is being done to control market liquidity.

China has been doing the same thing, we have been trying to "cool" the economy for a while now.

Yet we are growing far faster than India is, and our inflation rate is much lower than India's too.
 

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