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India & China becoming core of global landscape: WTO chief

With "unimaginable" role being played by fast-rising India, China and other emerging economies, the nations which were on the periphery of the global landscape are becoming its core, WTO chief Pascal Lamy said on Tuesday.

"With the change in geo-political landscape, India, China and other emerging economies are playing a role which was unimaginable even 20 years ago," Lamy said addressing Panglaykim Memorial lecture at Jakarta on Tuesday.

He said in his speech, posted on the WTO website, that besides the key role being played by emerging economies like India and China, even smaller developing countries want a say in a system in which they have a growing stake.

"Over 3 billion people—in China, India, Indonesia and other developing countries—are achieving in a generation what it took the West a century or more to achieve. This alone stands as the most significant economic event in history," the WTO chief said.

Quoting well-known economic commentator Martin Wolfe, Lamy said, "the periphery is becoming the core and the core is becoming the periphery".

Globalisation has both enabled — and rewarded — a shift in production, investment and technology to emerging economies, he said.

While the US remains a key player, "It is no longer dominant". The simple — even simplistic — North-South divide has given way to a more complex world of many different Souths and many different Norths. This multi-polar system is much more "democratic" than the old post-war order.

The days when a single or a few countries could design and direct the international system are gone. "Yet the old powers are cautious to share centre stage and worried about decline — while the new powers are timid in sharing responsibility," the WTO chief remarked.

India, China becoming core of global landscape: WTO chief - Hindustan Times
 
If India grows and becomes dominant, the world will notice, we don't need certificates from people in China and Pakistan to become what the WTO said we will be. India and China need to viewed at in two different eyes. In India you can launch a hunger strike and change the policies of the government, things move at snails pace, and yes even poverty alleviation moves at snails pace.
 
It is not always the government's fault. The government has so many programmes to advise these people through radio (everyone has it) to stop having so many kids, but these poor people get angry and say they want to have more kids. But being a democracy, we cannot impose it like you lot. So this is the reason such tragedies happen. I like some of your governing styles if you ask me personally, but most of it is a little too much. Shiny cities are good to look but not by tramping the free space of everyone.



That's because Mumbai is financial capital and Delhi is national capital, smarty. Bangalore, Chandigarh, Hyderabad, Pune, Chennai, Kolkata are also known at the same level. Bangalore and Chandigarh are far better than Delhi and Mumbai.



Agreed. But we don't let the West be our yardstick unlike you.

What, did Indira Gandhi not try to force a sterilization program far more coercive than our 1 child policy? Then she got assassinated.

What I took issue to was his claim that people were being "pushed out of the cities" to make them look better. If so, the rate of urbanization would not be so high. After all, new urban residents come from rural areas.

Not just the West, or are you saying that Indian cities can potentially look like Moscow at the height of USSR power or like Seoul, South Korea? We don't look to the West. Cities in the West, especially US, are characterized by urban sprawl, suburban living in individual houses, excessive use of automobiles and "building a city around cars and their individual use". I remember especially about US parking lots that are larger than the store they serve. China is obviously not replicating this. We're building ultra high density urban centers in the style of Tokyo, Seoul and Singapore. Maybe India can also learn from this. Also note that SEOUL didn't have slums during 1980's when South Korea was developing.
 
What, did Indira Gandhi not try to force a sterilization program far more coercive than our 1 child policy? Then she got assassinated.

She got assassinated for being a fascist against the Sikh community. The Operation Blue Star was not what caused it as most Pakistanis and Chinese believe. Her son Sanjay Gandhi was the man behind that program of forced sterilization. But he was also known for his atrocious behavior for being the PM's son and some say was assassinated in a "plane crash".

What I took issue to was his claim that people were being "pushed out of the cities" to make them look better. If so, the rate of urbanization would not be so high. After all, new urban residents come from rural areas.

He was talking about the Shanghai of 50+ years back when all this happened, man. The only difference with us is, even in cities people have multiple kids and hence it becomes double the problem. If any political party mandates this, the opposition (for the sake of politics only) will win the next election. Either we crush democracy out and get a bunch of sensible people to dictate terms, or try to slowly but steadily bypass this matter and find an alternate. That's the only options right now.

Not just the West, or are you saying that Indian cities can potentially look like Moscow at the height of USSR power or like Seoul, South Korea? We don't look to the West. Cities in the West, especially US, are characterized by urban sprawl, suburban living in individual houses, excessive use of automobiles and "building a city around cars and their individual use". I remember especially about US parking lots that are larger than the store they serve. China is obviously not replicating this.

I am not criticizing western model. Clean roads, good infrastructure etc is definitely something to be proud of. But the style in which you're constructing definitely comes from a Western yardstick. For example, we don't find skyscrapers and towering glassy buildings essential to be called developed if we are somehow able to make our streets, public areas etc totally clean. That's why I said we don't take West as a yardstick as compared to you and rest of east Asians. If services could be better, corruption could be lesser and country would be cleaner, we're happy with small to middle sized buildings.
 
I love it when the Chinese members here forget that most of them lived in slums when Nixon went to China. Its 40 years now and China has come a long way and now they are berating India who due to its own fiscal policies has achieved more comparatively since 1994 than China did in its first 20 years of development while China on the other hand had to use our hand to walk.

Quite funny indeed.

You're kidding right ? There's only one bankrupt nation here and it's not China.
China could theoretically bury all the goods shipped to the US each year in the Gobi desert and it will have the exact same net effect on the Chinese economy. The US pays for Chinese goods with the printing press. Everything else, China can get from Brazil, Canada, Australia or Africa.
 
70 million? Even Dikotter sponsored by the far right Chiang Ching Kuo Foundation says 40 million :lol:

Even if it was 70 million, 6000 a day is 2 million a year, over 63 years of independence over 120 million Indians have been killed by your regime. India's mass murderers are still in office today while Mao is long dead, and they are in fact killing even this second. In the time I took to type this message, 10 children died in India. Yes, right where you are today, 10 children died of starvation.

are you trying to prove that if china killed 70 million , and 120 million died in india , then your regime is better than ours ??......the answer is no .....

the fact remains that china killed its people in numbers comparable to india's , so basically china belongs to the same category as india .

and yes , our people die because of backwardness , not because the govt intentionally planned to murder them .

your people die because the govt intentionally plans to murder them .

and long after mao died , your govt was still killing people in the tiananmen square massacre . what about that ??
 
are you trying to prove that if china killed 70 million , and 120 million died in india , then your regime is better than ours ??......the answer is no .....

the fact remains that china killed its people in numbers comparable to india's , so basically china belongs to the same category as india .

and yes , our people die because of backwardness , not because the govt intentionally planned to murder them .

your people die because the govt intentionally plans to murder them .

and long after mao died , your govt was still killing people in the tiananmen square massacre . what about that ??

In the span I took to get a drink and type this message, a Tiananmen Square occured to children in India.

Our government didn't try to kill anyone either. The people died because we were far more backwards than India at the time and despite that, China's life expectancy increased hugely in the 50's from 39 years to 60 years, near what India had in the 90's.

Your murderers are still sitting in office. The children died of corruption. Corruption is a weapon used to kill the poor and nowhere is it seen in greater effect than India.
 
Ok - great achievement - Chindia and Periphery becoming the core -- great stuff -- What will it mean for US Dollar?
 
Ok - great achievement - Chindia and Periphery becoming the core -- great stuff -- What will it mean for US Dollar?

US dollar stays. Usual bullying to shunt dollar is just a bluff. The intent is to save dollar for better things. China will be making dollar more stronger by trading with Russia and India in local currencies (Russia already working out). They will use dollar to buy oil, sophisticated technology, gold and to increase stakes in IMF and ADB etc. Even India wouldn't mind purchasing weapons from Russia in rupees.
 
Well, I've throughly gone through my post history and tried finding any excuse you would use against me and couldn't find much if anything.

So, you can believe I'm hiding behind false flags but you can't prove it which makes your claims meaningless and unfounded.

Like I said. Carry on...

People will decide for themselves. I only raised the subject because you accused someone else of being a false flagger and the irony was just too much.
 
Like I said. Carry on...

People will decide for themselves. I only raised the subject because you accused someone else of being a false flagger and the irony was just too much.

Your the only one to accuse me of such and there really isn't any irony if you can't prove it.

So, I'll leave it at that.
 
Western media kept saying it , but most Indians were not willing to believe that China was apprehensive about India's rise . but by the reactions of Chinese in this thread and elsehwere on the net , it becomes very obvious that they got it right even though at first we thought they were paranoid about China.

China feels angry and jealous when now the world acknowledges rise of India along with China in the same sentence , because just till about 8 years back it was all China , china , China in the world press and now its India and China both .They feel we have stolen some limelight from them .
Sorry guys but what were you thinking ? No other third world countries would start developing as you did . We are behind mainly because our rapid growth started much later but we will be there for sure and that is inevitable , better get used to it . And china needs to also get used to the fact the other third world countries like vietnam are also going to have their time , they already are actually .It's just not something you can control.

No wonder all those stapled visas , those south tibet claims , and all that needling started happening only when India started experiencing rapid growth.I hate to say it but the so called 'paranoid' Indian and American media has got it right to quite an extent .
 
No, it was another one by an Indian claiming Pakistan would never take Kashmir by force -- or something to that effect.

false flag hunter is here . buddy we catch a Pakistani false flagger on this forum almost everyday . I don't know why you are nowhere to be seen in those threads .

Look you are trolling sir , please try to remain on topic that is India and china.
 
Wow all it took was 1 message from huan to turn this into a
China vs india bashing thread.
 
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