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You are absolutely correct. For now future of a friendly India and Bangladesh is looking good. We should keep up the good work and step up our game.
There will be a major slow down in Indian economy. India has serious social structural problem.
I am just afraid if it could pull Bangladesh down or not.
 
There will be a major slow down in Indian economy. India has serious social structural problem.
I am just afraid if it could pull Bangladesh down or not.

Why there will be a slowdown? I hope Trump keeps the tariffs on China, it will help countries like India, Bangladesh, Viet Nam and Philippines.
 
Why there will be a slowdown? I hope Trump keeps the tariffs on China, it will help countries like India, Bangladesh, Viet Nam and Philippines.
Some Indian economist believe that economy is propelled by 100 million indian consumers at the top. Economy failed to bring rest of the population in the mainstream manufacturing economy.
The parse of this 100 million consumers actually determines how much India grows.
 
Some Indian economist believe that economy is propelled by 100 million indian consumers at the top. Economy failed to bring rest of the population in the mainstream manufacturing economy.
The parse of this 100 million consumers actually determines how much India grows.
But, I thought India has a sizeable industrial base, so is also a middle class. Without a large number of the middle class, it is not possible to progress depending on the parse of a few million rich.
 
But, I thought India has a sizeable industrial base, so is also a middle class. Without a large number of the middle class, it is not possible to progress depending on the parse of a few million rich.

India mostly depends on IT sector as it is big source of income. Levering Fourth Industrial Revolution it is expecting to generate revenue between 500 billion usd to 1 trillion usd by 2025. You have wrong perception 4IR means robotics only rather it’s all about data, ai, analysis of the data and making better decision and to do that huge skilled manpower is required and whole world is facing big shortage of it.

Indian is trying to fill the vacuum. So is Bangladesh. It does not require knowledge of building a steam engine rather good math, statistics, programming and domain knowledge.


AI to add $15.7trln to global economy by 2030: PwC

https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/econo..._to_global_economy_by_2030_PwC-SNG_144560548/
 
But, I thought India has a sizeable industrial base, so is also a middle class. Without a large number of the middle class, it is not possible to progress depending on the parse of a few million rich.
You have to think deep how a low income country progress.
India's slow down is due to low level of consumer demand which should not be. In a developing country there should not be any shortage of consumer demand. It should be like, demand should always outpace supply. In every step in the developing economy should pull people out of poverty and convert them as consumer which should constantly pushing demand upward. This is not happening in India. Indian economy started behaving like a developed economy like USA or European economy where there are phases of higher demand and slow downs and vice versa.

India mostly depends on IT sector as it is big source of income. Levering Fourth Industrial Revolution it is expecting to generate revenue between 500 billion usd to 1 trillion usd by 2025. You have wrong perception 4IR means robotics only rather it’s all about data, ai, analysis of the data and making better decision and to do that huge skilled manpower is required and whole world is facing big shortage of it.

Indian is trying to fill the vacuum. So is Bangladesh. It does not require knowledge of building a steam engine rather good math, statistics, programming and domain knowledge.


AI to add $15.7trln to global economy by 2030: PwC

https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/econo..._to_global_economy_by_2030_PwC-SNG_144560548/
The already middle class people are getting benefited by Indian IT sectors. It did not directly contribute to the social structural transformation.
 
India mostly depends on IT sector as it is big source of income. Levering Fourth Industrial Revolution it is expecting to generate revenue between 500 billion usd to 1 trillion usd by 2025. You have wrong perception 4IR means robotics only rather it’s all about data, ai, analysis of the data and making better decision and to do that huge skilled manpower is required and whole world is facing big shortage of it.

Indian is trying to fill the vacuum. So is Bangladesh. It does not require knowledge of building a steam engine rather good math, statistics, programming and domain knowledge.

AI to add $15.7trln to global economy by 2030: PwC
https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/econo..._to_global_economy_by_2030_PwC-SNG_144560548/
It is better to limit the discussion with respect to Bangladesh. Global innovation has nothing to with this country void of all the necessary knowledge even to initiate the 1st Industrial revolution. As I said before, 4IR is not only about data analysis. You have a completely wrong perception of the matter. Read the excerpt below:

"The possibilities of billions of people -----------, with unprecedented processing power, storage capacity, and access to knowledge, are unlimited. And these possibilities will be multiplied by emerging technology breakthroughs in fields such as artificial intelligence, robotics, the Internet of Things, autonomous vehicles, 3-D printing, nanotechnology, biotechnology, materials science, energy storage, and quantum computing".

The above is what approximately describes the 4IR. Only the highly developed countries of Europe or Japan need it and are struggling hard to make it happen. It is not the simple data processing or programming which India has been successfully doing for the last few decades, and BD is trying to follow the same step only now. But, it is called ICT and not 4IR. BD needs 1IR to 3IR now to quickstart industrialization and not the 4IR that industrially developed nations need.

BD needs to work more on the Manufacturing of Things and should talk less on an unachievable Internet of Things. At least manufacture the sewing machines locally before you play mind games with 4IR. It is complete nonsense when it is backward BD that is unable even to build steam engines let alone diesel engines.
 
India mostly depends on IT sector as it is big source of income. Levering Fourth Industrial Revolution it is expecting to generate revenue between 500 billion usd to 1 trillion usd by 2025. You have wrong perception 4IR means robotics only rather it’s all about data, ai, analysis of the data and making better decision and to do that huge skilled manpower is required and whole world is facing big shortage of it.

Indian is trying to fill the vacuum. So is Bangladesh. It does not require knowledge of building a steam engine rather good math, statistics, programming and domain knowledge.


AI to add $15.7trln to global economy by 2030: PwC

https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/econo..._to_global_economy_by_2030_PwC-SNG_144560548/
Its not all about making money... For countries like india, It should be to put as many people as It can in organised formal Sector as quickly as possible .
 
But, I thought India has a sizeable industrial base, so is also a middle class. Without a large number of the middle class, it is not possible to progress depending on the parse of a few million rich.

Topcat is an idiot. He probably thinks 2 dollars of investment per Bangladeshi deployed outside its borders will bring any modicum of "bottom up" industrialisation.....that too when "bottom" of pyramid in BD (not india or any developing country I have seen) is now seeing real household income decline from 2010.

It is why he just runs away when you actually ask him to prove how constant dollar is calculated (if it has no inflation component)...after bitching that he has it all figured out with some notion of exchange rate movement lol.

Any developed country in the world, you can check what is the import composition they do w.r.t India and BD....to get idea of how much BD is reliant on a) one good and b) freebie 0 tariff for that good. Can check what the 2 dollar per person investment outside generates for anything

It is supposed to industrialise past this somehow while filing 2 patents in the US a year (at best)? The only thing getting stuck is BD brains, BD real economy (as measured in any way that matters that can be proven 3rd party like energy, investment, trade) and BD corruption (which this topcat fellow is big proponent of).

Then they get all dismissive when you post what the productivity per worker is for BD compared to Myanmar, India, Pakistan etc is. Apparently that also is another big aid for industrialisation "from bottom" in some way heh.

The only thing that grows is BD ego...post 1, 2 and 3 all positive...and then the ego trip starts......because BD is super proud of getting LDC-tariff rate. It will be humorous to watch it deflate....surprising it doesnt when you show that....no BD didnt export a million refrigerators to thailand as promised back in 2015 (and all other promises since)....trial orders + media noise (and subsequent actual realised failure) seem to run this BAL 95% seat win + 95% extreme corruption country.

I mean its pretty darn sad to see automobile production levels of the world, and then scroll all the way to bottom till you hit Bangladesh....languishing among some pacific islands for company. 500 pragoti assembly! Real industrially stronk!

You know well @bluesky what is the realisation rate versus dream rate for BD attitude....and what it creates among these ppl here when you challenge it.

I suggest just watch more of it....it will take some harsh reality coming up for BD to change in meaningful way. Energy stagnation this early + inflation causing household income decline this early is bad. It means the discrepancy that SANEM is showing and questioning is not materialising magically enough to make up the slack in between....and 4% actual growth of such non-diverse economy (as harvard says) has a basis. Just depends the time taken to acknowledge it and fix it...and it will need more bubble bursting for such a corrupt brittle monolith type of country.

@Major Sam @Sugarcane
 
You have to think deep how a low income country progress.
India's slow down is due to low level of consumer demand which should not be. In a developing country there should not be any shortage of consumer demand. It should be like, demand should always outpace supply. In every step in the developing economy should pull people out of poverty and convert them as consumer which should constantly pushing demand upward. This is not happening in India. Indian economy started behaving like a developed economy like USA or European economy where there are phases of higher demand and slow downs and vice versa.


The already middle class people are getting benefited by Indian IT sectors. It did not directly contribute to the social structural transformation.

Although they have a huge middle class - the demand from that class is not outpacing supply.

What could be the reason? This is puzzling.

Not like what happened in China.
 
Although they have a huge middle class - the demand from that class is not outpacing supply.

What could be the reason? This is puzzling.

Not like what happened in China.
Simple, Middle class is not growing.. Middle class is turning into upper class and they prefer foreign luxury items and shop overseas.
 
It is better to limit the discussion with respect to Bangladesh. Global innovation has nothing to with this country void of all the necessary knowledge even to initiate the 1st Industrial revolution. As I said before, 4IR is not only about data analysis. You have a completely wrong perception of the matter. Read the excerpt below:

"The possibilities of billions of people -----------, with unprecedented processing power, storage capacity, and access to knowledge, are unlimited. And these possibilities will be multiplied by emerging technology breakthroughs in fields such as artificial intelligence, robotics, the Internet of Things, autonomous vehicles, 3-D printing, nanotechnology, biotechnology, materials science, energy storage, and quantum computing".

The above is what approximately describes the 4IR. Only the highly developed countries of Europe or Japan need it and are struggling hard to make it happen. It is not the simple data processing or programming which India has been successfully doing for the last few decades, and BD is trying to follow the same step only now. But, it is called ICT and not 4IR. BD needs 1IR to 3IR now to quickstart industrialization and not the 4IR that industrially developed nations need.

BD needs to work more on the Manufacturing of Things and should talk less on an unachievable Internet of Things. At least manufacture the sewing machines locally before you play mind games with 4IR. It is complete nonsense when it is backward BD that is unable even to build steam engines let alone diesel engines.

Don't worry Bd got special formula to avoid middle income traps, so it useless to do the dirty jobs like what Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia doing by growing their manufacturing sector, build up basic industry like steel and automotive sectors along with communication parts, chemical and petro industry complex, setting up vocational schools and relevant work force for dirt industry like shipyards, steel, and other manufacturing parts all will be bypassed by embrace 4th generation industrial revolution and reach sky-high developed status .

We are in ASEAN is fool here, and still mingled at dirt jobs and dirty our hands with oil, and plate steel making to build car, motorcycle, car engines or spoiled our eyes while making Hard disk, chips and processor, RAM or playing muds and growing palm oils and processed them towards cooking oil, soaps, margarine, synthetic chemical compounds or even sources for Nitric acid solution compound for our explosive industry.
 

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