"Indescribably Hideous" China's Harvesting of Uyghur Muslim Organs

[Aryan0395]

I feel disgusted by such a lie.

What lie?

If you can enforce CCP to rule by law, be my guest.

That emotion explains what i said to that gentleman who talked about more HR in china than in west, for which u are constantly debating.

 

[nang2]

What lie?

What the OP says.

True. I am familiar with the description provided in your post. In the UK, Muslim's are demonized and so much filth is written on things which don't exist. But the public (some) fall for such propaganda and don't investigate the evidence. Why do newspapers write such garbage? It's the easiest way to become famous. The same applies in this case. America is weakening and China is prospering. Make China the boogieman and it's your ticket to money and fame.

Yes, that is why it is my conviction that the greatness of a nation is determined by the greatness of its people, not so much by its policies or social structures. No political innovation can save a nation from the same gullible people.

 

[RealNapster]

What next ? China Sacrificing Uyghur muslims to martians gods to avoid attack from United Republics of Mars ?

 

[Chhatrapati]

I agree. As I mentioned in various posts, I am not a big fan of CCP. But it doesn't mean you have to love anything or anyone that CCP hates. That is irrational.

I don't like him or hate him. We have writers who are staunchly opposes our government who writes even lies. Nobody in here would agree to it, if they get prosecuted for it. Not saying our system is perfect or rational either but there should be free speech within the premise of decency. You are free to disagree with me.

In China ...they make the topic..word...and the person dissapear

Takes a lot to write against communist regimes while living in a communist nation.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Western propaganda. No such thing. China affords more human rights to its citizens than the west do. Mods please remove propaganda articles against our higher than the seas and deeper than the mountain friends

Scratching head. Samajh mein nahi ata whether it's sarcasm or serious.

 

[nang2]

I don't like him or hate him. We have writers who are staunchly opposes our government who writes even lies. Nobody in here would agree to it, if they get prosecuted for it. Not saying our system is perfect or rational either but there should be free speech within the premise of decency. You are free to disagree with me.

We are in agreement then.

 

[Verve]

I do what I always do, long before you joined this forum, no more , no less, ask around and they all know me. You don't even represent the majority of Pakistani posters here , let alone your government. If you want to change China, change your own government first.

He is most likely an Indian impersonating but definitely a PMLN supporter who are acting like separatists these days - expect China bashing from such elements.

 

[Nan Yang]

In no place, someone who writes something is seen as threat unless it's a dictatorship. You can call America and trump all kind of things and still not face prosecution, unless you send mails with death threat, even then chances of you getting prosecuted is slim.

Because China and United States have different political system.
Each political system has it's own rules.
In an electoral democracy, criticism of each other is part of it's political system. The purpose is to undermine and overthrow the governing administration.

China have a different political system.

 

[fisher1]

I do what I always do, long before you joined this forum, no more , no less, ask around and they all know me. You don't even represent the majority of Pakistani posters here , let alone your government. If you want to change China, change your own government first.

What has that to do with anything. Also there are many Indians and Islam haters here hiding behind Pakistan identity who are happy Uighur Muslims are suffering. Don't think i haven't noticed the Muslim bashing that goes on here.

My government isn't harvesting Uighurs organs, China is.

 

[beijingwalker]

My government isn't harvesting Uighurs organs, China is.

You can claim that China harvests their souls too, make it sound even more sensational.

 

[fisher1]

He is most likely an Indian impersonating but definitely a PMLN supporter who are acting like separatists these days - expect China bashing from such elements.

I am not surprised you are supporting the chinese propaganda. Like flies stick to shit, liars stick together.

You don't even care about Muslims. Why are you here commenting on the plight of Uighurs Muslims? Go away to Pakistani politics forum and do your bashing of Pakistan.

You can claim that China harvests their souls too, make it sound even more sensational.

I am not claiming anything. The article is.

Why doesn't China opens its doors and show the world nothing of this sort is happening. Would you believe North Korea anything they say? No.

But we do see videos from independent sources that show exactly what China dismiss as propaganda.

@Retired Troll @hunter_hunted

Hey! Why you don't comment on such interesting topics? Why you stick to only bland, dry, boring topics?


@Retired Troll @hunter_hunted

Hey! Why you don't comment on such interesting topics? Why you stick to only bland, dry, boring topics?

Why are you quoting me twice? You know you can summon them without quoting me?

 

[Nasr]

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/07/16/indescribably-hideous-chinas-harvesting-of-uyghur-muslim-organs/

s now beyond doubt to any reasonable person that China is carrying out the world’s largest industrial scale persecution of a religious minority since the Holocaust, but what remains in question is our ability to grasp the full extent of the horrors taking place against Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. China has established a hi-tech totalitarian system that gives the Communist Party total and absolute control of every citizen in the country, deploying GPS tracking and voice and facial recognition capabilities that allow the government to, not only track the movement and location of every Chinese ID card-carrying resident, but also control the behaviour of those it deems to be a pesky minority. China has taken the biometric data of each and every one of three million Uyghur it has detained throughout its network of concentration camps. For the political leadership in Beijing, the Uyghur, the indigenous occupants of Xinjiang, pose a potential future threat to its ability to realise its goals via the ‘One Belt, One Road’ economic strategy, which aims to provide China unfettered access to markets in Europe and Asia, thus allowing it to mitigate the risk it views the Malacca Strait chokepoint to be to its long -term survival. “In response to real and perceived instability, Party authorities have constructed a sophisticated, multi-layered network of mass surveillance in Xinjiang, part of Xi Jinping’s grand strategy for achieving ‘social stability and enduring peace’ in this strategic frontier region,” observes James Leibold, an assistant professor at La Trobe University, Melbourne. “The resulting surveillance society includes both covert and overt monitoring as well as the categorisation, exhortation and disciplining of its population in the name of safety, civility and progress. As it watches, the Party-state sorts its citizenry into those deemed ‘normal’ and thus trustworthy, and those who are ‘deviant’ or ‘abnormal’ in their thoughts or demeanour.” In the collective mind of the Communist Party, the religion of Islam and Uyghur ethnic culture itself is deemed to be deviant behaviour, which explains why Beijing has established a ruthless and barbaric system that starts with identification before moving towards separation, detainment, indoctrination, and then reintegration. When Will the World Do Something to Save Rohingya Muslims? CJ Werleman For those who resist the indoctrination and reintegration into Chinese Communist ideology and the dominant Han Chinese culture, then forced labour, forced disappearances and execution await, according to an array of accounts that have emerged from Xinjiang in the past two years or so. If these grisly realities don’t invoke memories of Europe’s darkest days, or more recently and more pertinently the horrors of China’s Cultural Revolution during the 10-year period spanning 1966 to 1976 – which left upwards of two million of Chairman Mao’s political opponents dead – then consider the recent findings of an independent, UK-based panel into China’s elaborate organ harvesting program. Saudi Demand “China continues to kill prisoners of conscience for organ transplants,” The China Tribunal, a panel of lawyers and experts, declared in June, adding that this heinous practice has been taking place over the past two decades and continues today. According to the panel, murdered members of the Falun Gong spiritual group have “probably” been the “principle source” of organs for forced harvesting over the past 20 years but, given China’s crackdown on the Uyghur began far more recently, it’s highly likely that the Muslim ethnic minority were “being used as a bank of organs”. “The conclusion shows that very many people have died indescribably hideous deaths for no reason,” said Sir Geoffrey Nice, the tribunal’s chairman, in the judgement.

When I spoke with Enver Tohti, an exiled Uyghur oncology surgeon who is credited by human rights groups with involuntarily carrying out the first known case of live organ harvesting in China, he explained how he removed the liver and kidneys from a prisoner who had been shot in the chest with the objective of, not to kill him, but to send his body into shock. “I was called by my chief surgeon to go to a room near the Urumqi execution grounds to remove the liver and two kidneys from an executed prisoner,” Tohti told me. “It turned out he wasn’t fully dead because they [the Chinese execution squad] shot him through the right chest to knock him out, so I would have time to remove his organs” – a surgery his chief surgeon demanded he perform without giving the prisoner any anaesthetic. Tohti saw the man’s heart beating as he removed his kidneys and liver. The Uyghur, the indigenous occupants of Xinjiang, pose a potential future threat to its ability to realise its goals via the ‘One Belt, One Road’ economic strategy. This deliberately botched execution of a Uyghur prisoner took place in 1995 and would be the first time Tohti unwittingly participated in China’s live organ harvesting program, telling a UK newspaper in 2013 that it wasn’t until years later that he realised what he had been a part of and just how widespread and systematic the practice had become in the Uyghur Muslim majority region. Earlier this year, Tohti told Radio Free Asia (RFA) that he believes the main customers of live Uyghur Muslim organs are wealthy Saudi transplant recipients, with China grotesquely and preposterously marketing these illegally removed body parts as “Halal organs”, despite the fact there’s no such thing in Islamic ruling or practice. When I pressed Tohti on this claim, he admitted to having no direct evidence – only unverified second-hand accounts – of China selling or marketing “halal” organs to wealthy Saudi organ recipients, and insisted it was something “best not spoken about until it could be confirmed”. But, when I asked why he no longer stands by the earlier assertion he made to RFA, he pivoted to expressing fear for his mother’s safety, who remains in Xinjiang. What we do know for certain is that China has taken the biometric data of each and every one of three million Uyghur it has detained throughout its network of concentration camps. We also know that 10,000 organ transplants are carried out each year in China, according to the authors of a report that was presented to the UK government and titled Bloody Harvest/Slaughter. We also know that 410 Saudis purchased organs from “black markets”, including China in 2012-14, with another 7,000 Saudi patients in current need of kidney transplants, according to a statement made by the Director of the Saudi Centre for Organ Transplants to Arabian News. In the collective mind of the Communist Party, the religion of Islam and Uyghur ethnic culture itself is deemed to be deviant behaviour. What Tohti can confirm is that the demand for Uyghur organs outweighs supply, which he speculates is why authorities in Xinjiang have mandated compulsory blood sample collection from Uyghur Muslims via the National Health Medical Examination, with the aim in creating a “live organ-matching database”. Given that the European Parliament’s Public Health Committee and Human Rights Sub-Committee say that illegally harvested kidneys fetch as much as €150,000 each, the motive driving China’s organ harvesting programme becomes self-evident.

Yet another bullshit story by Zionist-West to start up a conflict between Central Asian Republics and China. Zionist are a Parasitic Cancer which spreads it's poison wherever they go. Anyone have any doubts, well Zionist-American forces and intelligence agencies have been based in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan for nearly two decades. Just another tactic used by these b@stards like in Ukraine (Donbass), Gerogia (Ossetia), Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[Winchester]

Propaganda from dubious sources posted by dubious users against friendly countries should not be allowed on this forum.

You don't even care about Muslims. Why are you here commenting on the plight of Uighurs Muslims? Go away to Pakistani politics forum and do your bashing of Pakistan.

Ethno-Facist PTM supporters should be the last people on earth to take the cause of Muslim unity.

 

[maximuswarrior]

It is that bastard CJ Werleman again. The OP is a China hater.

 

[Winchester]

It is that bastard CJ Werleman again. The OP is a China hater.

PTM alert.

RAW cyber ops to sabotage Pak-China relations.