GUNS-N- ROSES
FULL MEMBER
There are certain inaccuracies observed regarding india in this forum.i would like to comment on few of them:
1. Indians want to re-unite pakistan with india: I have observed some of my pakistani friends sayin that india wants to capture pakistan and re-unite it with india. HELL, NO. we r happy the way we r right now. I am sure division of india and subsequent blood bath has cast a lasting impression in the minds of indian and pakistani people. It was a terrible moment in the south asian history. though some of us still do not agree with two nation theory but there is no way we want to re-unite pakistan with india. pakistan and india are both indipendent nations and let them chart their own respective destinies.
2. Indians want pakistan to fail/disintegrate: only a insane person would want pakistan to fail/disintegrate. can u imagine wat will happen if pakistan breaks up into 4-5 independent states, all armed with nuclear weapons. wat will happen if some mullahs head govt in one of those states? they will hold not only india but whole world to hostage. so no one wants pakistan to fail. all senior officials have said this same thing repeatedly. although i grudgingly admit that some indians are happy that pakistan is getting the taste of same medicine (terrorism), which india got in early and mid ninties. some people say pakistan created this jihadi culture along with saudis and americans to beat soviets and now they r realising that this culture is very difficult to control and it spreads very fast. but here in lies the opportunity for india and pakistan to cooperate and fight this menace of terrorism together.
3. High caste hindus are ruling india and opressing dalits/minorities: This is a popular perception shared by several pakistani members. the fact is the most powerfull person in india right now is sonia ghandhi (a christian). Dr Manmohan singh is a sikh. our lok sabha speaker Mrs Mira kumar is a dailt. deputy chairman of planning commission montek singh alhluwalia is a sikh. the fact of the matter is if u have talent in india no one and absolutlely no one can stop u. all our major bollywood stars are muslim and we love them dont we. i agree several politicians and corrupt officials do use caste system and religion as a toll and suppress the weak but it doesnt mean it become the state policy of people sitting in delhi.
4. Maoists are working for opressed classes: Hell no. has anyone read their charter? they want to install a maosit regime in india through armed struggle. They have been inspired by success of maoists in nepal and think they can do the same here. if these people are working for oppressed classes, why r they burning hospitals and schools for girl in jharkhand? why r they targetting ambulances carrying sick people? i do agree some reforms are needed to give better liveli hood to backward classes like tribals, but the fact of the matter is these people do not care abt tribals or anybody else. they only want to instal their govt at centre.
5. India is using afghanistan to forment trouble in pakistan: i agree india is quietly eroding pakistani presence in afghanistani and taking away that strategic depth that pakistan had but it doesnt mean india is supporting militants in pakistan by giving arms or ammunitions. if pakistani govt so believes then why doesnt it show the proof to the whole world. indian consulates at best are indulging in spying operations in pakistan which i am sure all countries do.
P.S: a word of caution to trollers and false flag ones, please do not generate war historia here on this thread and pls stick to points mentioned and do not try to de-rail the thread.
1. Indians want to re-unite pakistan with india: I have observed some of my pakistani friends sayin that india wants to capture pakistan and re-unite it with india. HELL, NO. we r happy the way we r right now. I am sure division of india and subsequent blood bath has cast a lasting impression in the minds of indian and pakistani people. It was a terrible moment in the south asian history. though some of us still do not agree with two nation theory but there is no way we want to re-unite pakistan with india. pakistan and india are both indipendent nations and let them chart their own respective destinies.
2. Indians want pakistan to fail/disintegrate: only a insane person would want pakistan to fail/disintegrate. can u imagine wat will happen if pakistan breaks up into 4-5 independent states, all armed with nuclear weapons. wat will happen if some mullahs head govt in one of those states? they will hold not only india but whole world to hostage. so no one wants pakistan to fail. all senior officials have said this same thing repeatedly. although i grudgingly admit that some indians are happy that pakistan is getting the taste of same medicine (terrorism), which india got in early and mid ninties. some people say pakistan created this jihadi culture along with saudis and americans to beat soviets and now they r realising that this culture is very difficult to control and it spreads very fast. but here in lies the opportunity for india and pakistan to cooperate and fight this menace of terrorism together.
3. High caste hindus are ruling india and opressing dalits/minorities: This is a popular perception shared by several pakistani members. the fact is the most powerfull person in india right now is sonia ghandhi (a christian). Dr Manmohan singh is a sikh. our lok sabha speaker Mrs Mira kumar is a dailt. deputy chairman of planning commission montek singh alhluwalia is a sikh. the fact of the matter is if u have talent in india no one and absolutlely no one can stop u. all our major bollywood stars are muslim and we love them dont we. i agree several politicians and corrupt officials do use caste system and religion as a toll and suppress the weak but it doesnt mean it become the state policy of people sitting in delhi.
4. Maoists are working for opressed classes: Hell no. has anyone read their charter? they want to install a maosit regime in india through armed struggle. They have been inspired by success of maoists in nepal and think they can do the same here. if these people are working for oppressed classes, why r they burning hospitals and schools for girl in jharkhand? why r they targetting ambulances carrying sick people? i do agree some reforms are needed to give better liveli hood to backward classes like tribals, but the fact of the matter is these people do not care abt tribals or anybody else. they only want to instal their govt at centre.
5. India is using afghanistan to forment trouble in pakistan: i agree india is quietly eroding pakistani presence in afghanistani and taking away that strategic depth that pakistan had but it doesnt mean india is supporting militants in pakistan by giving arms or ammunitions. if pakistani govt so believes then why doesnt it show the proof to the whole world. indian consulates at best are indulging in spying operations in pakistan which i am sure all countries do.
P.S: a word of caution to trollers and false flag ones, please do not generate war historia here on this thread and pls stick to points mentioned and do not try to de-rail the thread.
(I am a OBC). But oppressed in the sense I mean they get more opportunity than the FCs in various fields.



