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Huawei Phones Had Bootleg Access to Google Apps. Not Anymore

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One of Huawei Technologies Co.’s biggest trade war headaches has just gotten worse, as an unofficial workaround to the Trump administration ban on using Google apps and services has been quashed.



Security researcher John Wu published an illuminating post Tuesday that explained how users of Huawei’s Mate 30 Pro were able to manually download and install Google apps, despite a U.S. blacklisting that prohibits the Chinese company from using American components and software. The process allowed the Mate 30 Pro (along with the basic Mate 30) to run popular apps like Google Maps and Gmail that otherwise would not be permitted.



In the wake of Wu’s revelations, the Mate 30 devices lost their clearance to manually install Android apps, as reported by a number of smartphone experts. Only Google is able to make that kind of change through what’s known as its SafetyNet anti-abuse check.



“Although this ‘backdoor’ requires user interaction to be enabled, the installer app, which is signed with a special certificate from Huawei, was granted privileges nowhere to be found on standard Android systems,” Wu wrote on Medium.



Google declined to comment for this story.

An easy-to-use app enabling the installation of Google apps and services on the Mate 30 Pro, called LZPlay, had emerged alongside the device’s release, however it has disappeared after Wu’s posting. The researcher said in his findings that “it is pretty obvious that Huawei is well aware of this ‘LZPlay’ app, and explicitly allows its existence.”

Huawei said in an emailed statement it has had no involvement with LZPlay.

Effectively, the change makes sure that the U.S. ban on Google services for the Mate 30 Pro is ironclad -- and many of the users outside of China who might have obtained or imported the device will now have only the bare Android-based Huawei user experience.

Apple Inc.’s iPhone and App Store, equipped with globally popular apps like YouTube, Instagram, Netflix and Spotify. Without it, no matter how great its specs and performance, an Android device is a tough sell for U.S. or European customers. The U.S. trade ban has been damaging to Huawei because it undercuts the company’s ability to compete in the premium smartphone market in Europe, which had been one of its growth drivers.
Huawei doesn’t have the same challenge in its native China because the government already bans most Google apps and services on all smartphones. Instead, Chinese users rely on Tencent Holdings Ltd.’s WeChat as the do-it-all super-app, plus a diversity of other sources for apps, games and entertainment, an ecosystem that’s developed in Google’s absence.

With the latest blow to the Mate 30 Pro, Huawei’s prospects for global smartphone sales dim even further.

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Awesome news, Google Play has real competition now, as in 1.4 billion people competition. Huawei will want to make/allow English apps for english speaking customers.

Google search is worse than garbage. Jewtube is banning anybody with a different opinion.

Google is for the dumps.

Washington is forcing China to rise up and make something better than google.

Wonder when Google will be banned from China. :pop:

Fanaticism on the part of Washington types is teaching the Chinese people that Washington means to do foreigners harm.
 
Huwei is finished. Who'd buy Huwei outside of China in absence of Google aps? :D

Imagine spending $1000 to get a phone where you can't even open Youtube app looool

Maybe theye can create a cloud based emulator of a non-Chinese phone and run it on their Huawei phones to get into these American Apps. In the mean time, Chinese companies should start making apps that can go head to head with the likes of Youtube and other Google apps. In time, people may start posting to both Youtube and this Chinese alternative.

If these Chinese apps can be both used in China and the West, it may bridge the Firewall and using the hundreds of millions of Chinese users as a guaranteed market, have enough revenue to be sustainable as it steals market share from the likes of Google.

Either way China has to go heavily into Software that it can allow to operating overseas and within China, and create IT services it can sell to foreigners through their phones. China needs to challenge the global ecosystem if it hopes its hardware can still compete.
 
Maybe theye can create a cloud based emulator of a non-Chinese phone and run it on their Huawei phones to get into these American Apps. In the mean time, Chinese companies should start making apps that can go head to head with the likes of Youtube and other Google apps. In time, people may start posting to both Youtube and this Chinese alternative.

If these Chinese apps can be both used in China and the West, it may bridge the Firewall and using the hundreds of millions of Chinese users as a guaranteed market, have enough revenue to be sustainable as it steals market share from the likes of Google.

Either way China has to go heavily into Software that it can allow to operating overseas and within China, and create IT services it can sell to foreigners through their phones. China needs to challenge the global ecosystem if it hopes its hardware can still compete.
And, Pak can be to China what India is to the USA in the IT, software etc. domains...
 
And, Pak can be to China what India is to the USA in the IT, software etc. domains...

It would be mutually beneficial to the Chinese if they allowed Pakistan to take part in these ventures. Pakistan will help make tweak products so they are better suited for the Desi markets (not fully, but one that is more culturally aware of what may work and what may not) as well as other Muslim countries. Pakistan can even try to recruit people from other Muslim countries to help tweak the products for their nations.
 
gotta say, I bought a P20 pro last year.... worst decision I have ever made.
From now on I am only going to buy google pixels.

Also, just a side note ( and I am not trying to troll anyone)
I find it immensely interesting that china makes so much money off of Android yet blocks Google in their country.
 
gotta say, I bought a P20 pro last year.... worst decision I have ever made.
From now on I am only going to buy google pixels.

Also, just a side note ( and I am not trying to troll anyone)
I find it immensely interesting that china makes so much money off of Android yet blocks Google in their country.
Seriously? I think it's a fake comment. A simple Google can find you 90% user are happy with P20 pro.

As for Google, they make billions thru huawei by just licensing app store to Huawei. Simple job unlike huawei who need billion R&D to make great camera phone and it's own chip.
 
Seriously? I think it's a fake comment. A simple Google can find you 90% user are happy with P20 pro.

As for Google, they make billions thru huawei by just licensing app store to Huawei. Simple job unlike huawei who need billion R&D to make great camera phone and it's own chip.


AHAHAh
why would I lie?
seriously
:rofl:

Honestly man, you need to learn that people are allowed to have different opinions to the ccp.

Lets be friends and I can help you open your mind to a world where can think free of what great president for life Xi tells you thinks.

You can still agree with great president Xi, but also think freely as well. :toast_sign:

Oh and they Google blocked the appstore now, so Google makes nothing.
 
AHAHAh
why would I lie?
seriously
:rofl:

Honestly man, you need to learn that people are allowed to have different opinions to the ccp.

Lets be friends and I can help you open your mind to a world where can think free of what great president for life Xi tells you thinks.

You can still agree with great president Xi, but also think freely as well. :toast_sign:

Oh and they Google blocked the appstore now, so Google makes nothing.
Really, I do know some have serious bias issue and make many fake opinion. Different people do have different habits and usage but to the extent of worst decision ever make. Lol... I am sure it's a fake comment unless some are using a smartphone from 2023 which make a Huawei p20 pro experience so bad.
 
Really, I do know some have serious bias issue and make many fake opinion. Different people do have different habits and usage but to the extent of worst decision ever make. Lol... I am sure it's a fake comment unless some are using a smartphone from 2023 which make a Huawei p20 pro experience so bad.

So an opinion that doesn't agree with ccp is biased?
Like seriously, think about this.
you are accusing someone of lying over the phone they have... a phone.... just because they don't have the "right opinion"

If I had said "I own a P20 pro and it's the best phone ever" Would you be here accusing me of lying?
Of course not, because then I would have the "correct opinion"


Honestly, I am literally sitting here laughing that you are so upset on my opinion of a phone :lol:
 

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