How to stop a child marriage?

[Goenitz]

@PakSword @The Eagle Just for check if it goes against the forum

A few of our relatives are marrying their 13 years old due to 'baradari' issue. The guy is 30 years old and have already been stop from marrying outside. So due to shortage plus within family restriction (not just baradari.) is culminating this gruesome law violation.
After filing 3 complaints to PM portal, they finally went to the house but due to 'bureaucratic' pressure, the police has withdrew from the case and gave away the case file.

Now we are planing to alert some NGOs but it highlights not only the family but also the institution of that bureaucrat, which I don't want as it will be used as propaganda and defame not only that institution but Pakistan.

However, it is not a 'forced' marriage as everybody is content in their family, so convincing anybody there is not an option but using the state pressure. Police has already buckled under pressure.

Overall, it seems education cannot stop you doing primitive things as the entire family is educated but has village roots.
Exposing ourselves and a direct confrontation means totally alienating ourselves from them for life, besides other possible repercussions.
What should I do like an NGO which can pursuit the case just for civil rights and not filming them to seek foreign grants?

 

[xuxu1457]

Do not know the local law， in China then the legal minimum age for marriage Female, 20, male, 22.
You can't get married earlier than that.
I don't know if it's useful to call the police. In China, you can call the police or find the media.

 

[Goenitz]

Do not know the local law， in China then the legal minimum age for marriage Female, 20, male, 22.
You can't get married earlier than that.
I don't know if it's useful to call the police. In China, you can call the police or find the media.

We have all the laws but no implementation. Police under the radar don't take any action until entire state backs them, which can be achieved by highlighting in the media, if that has not already been bought !!!

 

[Maarkhoor]

@PakSword @The Eagle Just for check if it goes against the forum

A few of our relatives are marrying their 13 years old due to 'baradari' issue. The guy is 30 years old and have already been stop from marrying outside. So due to shortage plus within family restriction (not just baradari.) is culminating this gruesome law violation.
After filing 3 complaints to PM portal, they finally went to the house but due to 'bureaucratic' pressure, the police has withdrew from the case and gave away the case file.

Now we are planing to alert some NGOs but it highlights not only the family but also the institution of that bureaucrat, which I don't want as it will be used as propaganda and defame not only that institution but Pakistan.

However, it is not a 'forced' marriage as everybody is content in their family, so convincing anybody there is not an option but using the state pressure. Police has already buckled under pressure.

Overall, it seems education cannot stop you doing primitive things as the entire family is educated but has village roots.
Exposing ourselves and a direct confrontation means totally alienating ourselves from them for life, besides other possible repercussions.
What should I do like an NGO which can pursuit the case just for civil rights and not filming them to seek foreign grants?

Address, Guy's name?
Pls....

 

[Goenitz]

Address, Guy's name?
Pls....

May be later as it would be leaked to media. Let me see what I can do before it.

 

[jamahir]

However, it is not a 'forced' marriage as everybody is content in their family

Everybody including the girl ? Because in a proper Islamic wedding the bride's consent is very important.

is the guy ready to wait until the girl turns at least 17 ?

 

[Goenitz]

Everybody including the girl ? Because in a proper Islamic wedding the bride's consent is very important.

is the guy ready to wait until the girl turns at least 17 ?

What does a child know. She was happy and wanted to play dholak and sing too. I think she just don't realise it fully.

If the guy has a brain and spine he himself should opppse it. Looks like everybody else is deciding on his behalf.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Despicable. Disappointed in the lacklustre police action. Some people just need reeducation.

 

[PDF]

@DESERT FIGHTER can we go to court if we know there is potential crime going to take place but police is not acting to implement law?
What can one do legally?

What does a child know. She was happy and wanted to play dholak and sing too. I think she just don't realise it fully.

If the guy has a brain and spine he himself should opppse it. Looks like everybody else is deciding on his behalf.

Try talking sense into the guy. See if you can convince him to reconsider for himself and also for the girl.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

What does a child know. She was happy and wanted to play dholak and sing too. I think she just don't realise it fully.

If the guy has a brain and spine he himself should opppse it. Looks like everybody else is deciding on his behalf.

Tell some of your friends to call bride's/groom's father disguising as agency/ISI agents and see them wetting their chaddis. If possible have a black vigo drive frequently near their homes (but make sure to mask the number plates)

 

[Goenitz]

Try talking sense into the guy. See if you can convince him to reconsider for himself and also for the girl.

No sir. Not an option. There had been a previous fight. I married the girl, whom his parents wanted as their bride. So I am in a blocked zone.

Actually I filed the complaint through PM portal without telling my father. My father doesn't want to poke his nose in my in laws matter, else he can take it to court. The problem is no one is against the marriage in their family. Not my wife, neither bride's mother or uncle. Neither they consulted us as we are outsider.
So as a next step I will ask my father, if he agrees then talk to my brother in law then we can go head to head.

Tell some of your friends to call bride's/groom's father disguising as agency/ISI agents and see

To start with I have a very shrill voice. Plus they have many family/extended family members in army too till brigadier.
Plus they own the village as only their family members live in that particular village (100 families may be).

 

[Vapnope]

@Goenitz you may contact Nighat Dad for that. You can also try Sahil (Foundation). I am sure they will handle it way better than anyone.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

No sir. Not an option. There had been a previous fight. I married the girl, whom his parents wanted as their bride. So I am in a blocked zone.

Actually I filed the complaint through PM portal without telling my father. My father doesn't want to poke his nose in my in laws matter, else he can take it to court. The problem is no one is against the marriage in their family. Not my wife, neither bride's mother or uncle. Neither they consulted us as we are outsider.
So as a next step I will ask my father, if he agrees then talk to my brother in law then we can go head to head.


To start with I have a very shrill voice. Plus they have many family/extended family members in army too till brigadier.

Don't bother with portal shmortal.

Listen. If a law has been broken, the police must act.

Check the Interpol website. There is always a way to bypass these local biryani eaters and alert a higher state authority.

 

[Goenitz]

@Goenitz you may contact Nighat Dad for that. You can also try Sahil (Foundation). I am sure they will handle it way better than anyone.

Thanx... I will contact them in case I pursue it as I need to talk to my father and brother in law. So that they don't complaint later.

 

[HAIDER]

@PakSword @The Eagle Just for check if it goes against the forum

A few of our relatives are marrying their 13 years old due to 'baradari' issue. The guy is 30 years old and have already been stop from marrying outside. So due to shortage plus within family restriction (not just baradari.) is culminating this gruesome law violation.
After filing 3 complaints to PM portal, they finally went to the house but due to 'bureaucratic' pressure, the police has withdrew from the case and gave away the case file.

Now we are planing to alert some NGOs but it highlights not only the family but also the institution of that bureaucrat, which I don't want as it will be used as propaganda and defame not only that institution but Pakistan.

However, it is not a 'forced' marriage as everybody is content in their family, so convincing anybody there is not an option but using the state pressure. Police has already buckled under pressure.

Overall, it seems education cannot stop you doing primitive things as the entire family is educated but has village roots.
Exposing ourselves and a direct confrontation means totally alienating ourselves from them for life, besides other possible repercussions.
What should I do like an NGO which can pursuit the case just for civil rights and not filming them to seek foreign grants?

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Also look into it. It seems move effective to me .

https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Women/WRGS/ForcedMarriage/NGO/SaveTheChildren.docx