How Must a Change in Sindh Happen?

[Meengla]

I think one of the weakest links in a revival of Pakistan's economy is the current government in Sindh: Even if we ignore the decade long inefficiency and corruption by the previous two PPP governments, going forward Pakistan can't afford to have it's second largest province (by population and economy) and it's 'economic hub' (Karachi) to under-perform.

And yet, due to the 18th Constitution Amendment, not much can be done while the PPP govt is still in power. Not unless there is an engineered 'in house' change or a direct Governor's Rule in Sindh. Both would be undemocratic. And, as an oldie, I have seen plenty of those forced changes since the 1970s--all of them led to worse consequences for Pakistan: More political instability/agitation, 'ehsaas e mehroomi' (sense of deprivation)...

I think a middle ground can be found: Drive home the message to the Sindh govt to perform, especially don't hinder Karachi's revival, or go home.

So what to do? Asking the learned members here.

 

[Syed1.]

F*** democracy.... log bhookay nangay mar rahay hain aur idhar logon ko democracy ki pari hai... I want PTI to 'engineer' whatever it must to get rid of PPP. They have been plundering for 10 years and show no signs of stopping. Every living Bhutto and Zardari need a bullet in his/her head.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Governor's Rule in Sindh

The only option is governors rule followed by massive investment in education and social welfare in interior Sindh designed to free the ordinary Sindhi from the servitude of wadera and PPP. Hoping that it leads to emergence of a new middle class of Sindhi who then goes on to inform a change in politics of Sindh. The only way forward is to settle the fears of Sindhi's and elevate them, from economic and educational poverty. Don't do that and they will keep supporting PPP regarding it as their only bulwark against mohajir hegemony on their province. And that fear plasters over other issues allowing likes of Zardari to keep grinning.

@Men in Green Thoughts?

 

[valkyr_96]

………….So what to do? Asking the learned members here.

I don't understand if the 18th Amendment asks for higher provincial share why is the federal government bailing the circular debt. This should also be the headache of the provinces. This will pressure them to act.

The only option is governors rule followed by massive investment in education and social welfare in interior Sindh designed to free the ordinary Sindhi from the servitude of wadera and PPP. Hoping that it leads to emergence of a new middle class of Sindhi who then goes on to inform a change in politics of Sindh. The only way forward is to settle the fears of Sindhi's and elevate them, from economic and educational poverty. Don't do that and they will keep supporting PPP regarding it as their only bulwark against mohajir hegemony on their province. And that fear plasters over other issues allowing likes of Zardari to keep grinning.

@Men in Green Thoughts?

Education is a long term solution...but the government exists for 5 years only. Plus we have very short short-term issue of funding. People need preoccupation and for that we need industries and technical education (which is specific and does not need a drawn out time period of 11 to 15-16 years). We need to engage the moderates, use pamphlets and other small facts to highlight the theft in Sindh (and elsewhere). However the best suggestion still remains the land reforms. If the government has to give subsidies to the agricultural sector then why should the rich benefit from transfer payments. Take over the land which should be overlooked by a central planning body and divide the land amongst the poor who labour the fields and make them into co-operatives. The central body can then according to international demand schedule profit maximizing and internationally competing crops and provide workshops and training to the farmers. This way we can buy cheaper grain from the international market and sell higher demand commodities. The farms can become model villages will schools and amenities. The dam is a wrong priority we need barrages and catchment areas to save water especially during monsoon. This had been impossible because of the claim that agricultural land will be lost but then the previous governments used the same agricultural land to start societies with lush lawns (our very own suburbia) and a coal power plant.

 

[AsifIjaz]

For sindh to change we need
1-- land reforms
The wadaeras and Politicians own huge swath of land with the villagers and haries residing in goths(villages) between the land being their property.
2-- we need independent, strictly non political and mandatory school education system for youth.
3-- a total non politicising of police and courts. Most if not all policemen in rural sindh need to be fired as almost everyone is either on the payroll or regional wadaera or MNA/MPA or he resides on their land or gets grains from them.
4-- the law in pakistan for any misinformation and hate speech should be followed in principal in sindh as jiye sindh, sindhi itehad and pppp are always playing anti punjabi, anti establishment or political victimization card. This must stop.
5-- all peers and shrines nees to be audited and money trail monitored. The peers dynasties and in charge of sufi shrines are part of the problem.

I have lived in sindh for 21 to 22 yrs with 16 being in rural sindh.. The common man is a law abiding, innocent person who is always dreaming of making it big but is a victim of systematic suppression and imperialism by the 30 odd families and a dozen peers in sindh. They can not dare to stand for their rights or for their basic needs unless agrees upon by wadaeras or his munshi...
It needs to be changed now and with time, education and awareness hopefully things will change for the good in atleast 1 to 1.5 decades

 

[Men in Green]

The only option is governors rule followed by massive investment in education and social welfare in interior Sindh designed to free the ordinary Sindhi from the servitude of wadera and PPP. Hoping that it leads to emergence of a new middle class of Sindhi who then goes on to inform a change in politics of Sindh. The only way forward is to settle the fears of Sindhi's and elevate them, from economic and educational poverty. Don't do that and they will keep supporting PPP regarding it as their only bulwark against mohajir hegemony on their province. And that fear plasters over other issues allowing likes of Zardari to keep grinning.

@Men in Green Thoughts?

After reading word fear if anything comes in my mind it's Sindh Police.

There is no need of governor rule. Police is main source of corruption for PPP and waderas ,Sindh police is basically there to serve waderas, Sirai and PPP.

Fedral Governmentnt should take charge of Sindh police fix police plus do some reforms, it will solve most of the problems.
Sindh is lala land , it can't be fixed untill we get rid of corruption and corrupt politicians and badly need reforms in police.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

if anything comes in my mind it's Sindh Police.

I don't think Sindh police can be reformed by federal government because correct me if I am wrong but that is provincial subject. Since by your own admission the ruling elite is corrupt you can't expect them to reform the police - which would bite them. So the only avenue left is governor's rule to carry out reform otherwise it will be business as usual and more of the same.

 

[Men in Green]

I don't think Sindh police can be reformed by federal government because correct me if I am wrong but that is provincial subject. Since by your own admission the ruling elite is corrupt you can't expect them to reform the police - which would bite them. So the only avenue left is governor's rule to carry out reform otherwise it will be business as usual and more of the same.

i don't know if it can be done or not but Police needs big changes if not by fedral government then Supreme court last option should be governor rule.
I am keeping it as last option bcz after governor rule PPP will fuel anarchy in Sindh.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I am keeping it as last option bcz after governor rule PPP will fuel anarchy in Sindh.

All in good time. Now is not the right time but by next year it would be time to go for it. After having sorted out FATA I think the state can handle whatever PPP can throw in Sindh. MQM has already been castrated so I would expect no trouble in urban areas. A focus on interior would sort out this province.

Wishing something will never deliver in a thousand years. He who dares gets things done. The only route is governor rule as all other options are blocked via vested interests. Decalaring governor rule is only constitutional route open to sort out the mess. The state owes the future generations of Sindhi's to do something now to bring about change in the future.

Coz it ain't gonna come from Zardari's PPP .....

 

[Meengla]

Guys,
Senior journalists like Haroon Rasheed are also calling for the Gov. Rule in Sindh. But it is not as 'Constitutional' option as some implying here: Remember when Zardari tried to take over the Punjab govt a few years ago by imposing the Govt. Rule: The Supreme Court over-turned. Solid legal grounds must exist for such an extreme step. And if the S.C won't restore the Sindh govt. then, of course, there will be this blah blah about Punjab vs Sindh and thus begins another era of Sindh's 'Sense of Deprivation' and even agitation--and NEVER underestimate the power of ethnic agitation.

From my current understanding, all three major players (Fed. Govt, Army, and the S.C) as well as the all non-PPP politicians of Sindh are working toward a legally covered coup in Sindh: Decapitate the top PPP leadership via relentless corruption cases and then convince the 2nd tier PPP legislatures to make a new non-PPP govt.

 

[shahbaz baig]

I found sindhis are very hospitable and devoted in nature but feeble minded when they come to political sense.
Their devotion have been turned to Bhutto/zardari families rather then serve Pakistan as whole.

All the reform of education,health, land, reduction in poverty can't be achieved during the period of this current mafia of sindh.. Sindhies will keep supporting zardari family, So the solution is to expose and eliminate corrupt politicians of sindh and their supportive feudals if we really want to prospers our people.

1. First eradicate dual domicile from sindh.
2. Support an alternative of PPP from rural sindh.
3. Join rural and urban against corrupt mafia zardari system of sindh.

 

[newb3e]

land reforms!

 

[War Thunder]

Problem is what you refer to as "democracy".
It's a stupid system, designed to enslave stupid people around the world, and let a select few keep ruling over them.

Screw democracy and send these idiots into the jail.
Hang every one responsible for neglect and corruption.

 

[Kambojaric]

Urbanization and the end of rural serfdom. Its a longer solution as compared to some of the others suggested on this thread, but constitutional. Encourage private and state level investment in the urban areas of Sindh coupled with a heavy NAB presence in said investments to make sure the PPP does not turn them into white elephants (and by urban i dont just mean Karachi but every town and city such as Sukkur or Nawabshah). Slowly the people will start moving in greater numbers to urban areas weakening the hold of jagirdars. That is ultimately how feudalism ended in Europe, as reduced manpower forced landowners to afford their serfs more and more rights.

 

[Meengla]

I don't think Pakistan can afford to have its second largest province and its economic hub to stay stagnant for the long term reforms. Past ten years of damage has been too much already.

Anyway, a soft coup, blessed by the Pakistani establishment, is underway. I think the biggest thing to watch out for is the extent of the backlash in rural Sindh. Too blatant a coup will cause a bigger reaction. Legally covered coup is likely to dampen the reaction.

Me thinks that if its a legally covered coup then the reaction won't be much because Asif Zardari is already discredited even in rural Sindh--but if I am wrong then we are looking at anarchy--something even worse than corruption.