How India Stole and Killed Cricket

[dexter]

 

[Enigma SIG]

Good. Kill it faster.

 

[SaadH]

This recently concluded world cup is the only one in my lifetime where I didn't watch a single game.

Cricket is pretty much dead, there are too many boring series involving the same two or three teams. Competition is all gone and batting is given too much space to dominate bowling. India is the only game in town and IPL will eventually kill international cricket.

 

[wildlens]

India did not kill cricket. India revived cricket with money. The West Indies cricket died because the athletes were drawn to American sports. Once that happened only Australian remained no 1 in the late 90s. For whatever reason SL, BD, ZIM, SA all went on a downward spiral. Pak is also not investing in the sport.ultimately, this needs the investments and it should come from within.

 

[_killuminati_]

India did not kill cricket. India revived cricket with money. The West Indies cricket died because the athletes were drawn to American sports. Once that happened only Australian remained no 1 in the late 90s. For whatever reason SL, BD, ZIM, SA all went on a downward spiral. Pak is also not investing in the sport.ultimately, this needs the investments and it should come from within.

BCCI killed cricket by breaking the balance between sport and commercialization, and by introducing geopolitical issues into the game. That's why nobody really cares about cricket anymore except for India. Cricket now is like WWE: showbiz. It's no longer competitive, and marred with corruption.

 

[SaadH]

India did not kill cricket. India revived cricket with money. The West Indies cricket died because the athletes were drawn to American sports. Once that happened only Australian remained no 1 in the late 90s. For whatever reason SL, BD, ZIM, SA all went on a downward spiral. Pak is also not investing in the sport.ultimately, this needs the investments and it should come from within.

Care to name any prominent west indians plying their trade in American sports? Cricket died in Windies for the same reason it is dying in Lanka, Pakistan, Zimbabwe and South Africa...Lack of financial viability and dwindling public interest. And India played a crucial part with it's big three stunt in making these board even less financially viable.

 

[wildlens]

BCCI killed cricket by breaking the balance between sport and commercialization, and by introducing geopolitical issues into the game. That's why nobody really cares about cricket anymore except for India. Cricket now is like WWE: showbiz. It's no longer competitive, and marred with corruption.

cricket is alive and kicking in Australia, England, NZ. I am here and it's ok. Asian countries are well supported by Indian money but they are unwilling to invest on their part. BCCI has to follow Indian govt advise on terror related stance and most Indians support that. Well even SA ere not allowed for decades because of geo politics. In India's case we are only not going to play Pak bi laterally, so that should not have any overall impact or only minimal impact. However the balance between commercialization and sport needs to be there and an equilibrium is being reached.

Care to name any prominent west indians plying their trade in American sports? Cricket died in Windies for the same reason it is dying in Lanka, Pakistan, Zimbabwe and South Africa...Lack of financial viability and dwindling public interest. And India played a crucial part with it's big three stunt in making these board even less financially viable.

simple google https://www.newsamericasnow.com/10-professional-us-athletes-with-caribbean-roots/

why should it die in Pak? You have a huge population, a well established structure and domestic circuit, enough international games and get a good share of revenue. ICC is not going to pay for grounds or other infra in every country. Pak also has issues at the top where a lot of bickering occurs, players are too religious and have one eye always on religioues matters, and the board apparently didn't pay them on time.

in SA, the black population were never much involved in cricket, so its an internal issue and the ICC is doing a great job in getting blacks and it will take a few decades. Even now we see 50% mixed. eg, Rabada, bavuma, Ngidi, Keshav Maharaj and shamsi. that's 5/11.

 

[wildlens]

Also read this...

New ICC finance model breaks up Big Three

During the ICC meetings over the week in Dubai, intense negotiations saw the BCCI's opposition to change outmaneuvered by the collective will of the rest

www.espncricinfo.com

Countries like Pak are getting more than its fair share and India is taking a huge loss despite contributing most.
BCCI is getting 50% of its demand with the other 50% going to associate nations. This despite india contributing 80% and getting only about 15%. Pak contributes literally nothing and gets 7 or 8%. Outside of ICC a chunk of BCCI revenue is generated by IPL now. Similarly Pak has its own PSL and Australian has BBL.

 

[SaadH]

cricket is alive and kicking in Australia, England, NZ. I am here and it's ok. Asian countries are well supported by Indian money but they are unwilling to invest on their part. BCCI has to follow Indian govt advise on terror related stance and most Indians support that. Well even SA ere not allowed for decades because of geo politics. In India's case we are only not going to play Pak bi laterally, so that should not have any overall impact or only minimal impact. However the balance between commercialization and sport needs to be there and an equilibrium is being reached.


simple google https://www.newsamericasnow.com/10-professional-us-athletes-with-caribbean-roots/

why should it die in Pak? You have a huge population, a well established structure and domestic circuit, enough international games and get a good share of revenue. ICC is not going to pay for grounds or other infra in every country. Pak also has issues at the top where a lot of bickering occurs, players are too religious and have one eye always on religioues matters, and the board apparently didn't pay them on time.

in SA, the black population were never much involved in cricket, so its an internal issue and the ICC is doing a great job in getting blacks and it will take a few decades. Even now we see 50% mixed. eg, Rabada, bavuma, Ngidi, Keshav Maharaj and shamsi. that's 5/11.

Out of these only one is prominent i.e. Carmello and he was born in US, only a few immigrated from Caribbean, some were born in US and there are a few females in there as well. Needless to say none of these are being lost to Caribbean cricket. There is no athletic talent from Caribbean shunning cricket and going for US sports in large enough consequential numbers. This is just a red herring to divert away from the real reason for the decline, lack of financial viability and BCCI led stratification.

Pakistan has a large cricket playing population and an ok structure, but it's being actively isolated by an Indian led apartheid against its player and team and cannot sustain itself financially. The grassroot level cricket is completely gone. With elite capture in full swing eating up remaining meager resources, the domestic structure will be gone in the medium future.

Cricket will go back to the colonial days where only three or four teams competed internationally and even they will make way for the premier domestic competition IPL, a la NBA. Cricket will go the way of NBA or Premier League.

 

[DabbuSardar]

India did not kill cricket. India revived cricket with money. The West Indies cricket died because the athletes were drawn to American sports. Once that happened only Australian remained no 1 in the late 90s. For whatever reason SL, BD, ZIM, SA all went on a downward spiral. Pak is also not investing in the sport.ultimately, this needs the investments and it should come from within.

Care to name any prominent west indians plying their trade in American sports? Cricket died in Windies for the same reason it is dying in Lanka, Pakistan, Zimbabwe and South Africa...Lack of financial viability and dwindling public interest. And India played a crucial part with it's big three stunt in making these board even less financially viable.

Cricket will die in all poor nations anyway, the trick is to become rich enough…!

 

[SaadH]

Cricket will die in all poor nations anyway, the trick is to become rich enough…!

Sadly most rich nations don't play cricket and a couple that do, cricket is 4th or 5th ranked sport in those countries...Good luck keeping it alive with homegrown talent of India playing on dead tracks generating high scoring matches while burying veggie phast bowlers into the ground.

 

[wildlens]

Out of these only one is prominent i.e. Carmello and he was born in US, only a few immigrated from Caribbean, some were born in US and there are a few females in there as well. Needless to say none of these are being lost to Caribbean cricket. There is no athletic talent from Caribbean shunning cricket and going for US sports in large enough consequential numbers. This is just a red herring to divert away from the real reason for the decline, lack of financial viability and BCCI led stratification.

Pakistan has a large cricket playing population and an ok structure, but it's being actively isolated by an Indian led apartheid against its player and team and cannot sustain itself financially. The grassroot level cricket is completely gone. With elite capture in full swing eating up remaining meager resources, the domestic structure will be gone in the medium future.

Cricket will go back to the colonial days where only three or four teams competed internationally and even they will make way for the premier domestic competition IPL, a la NBA. Cricket will go the way of NBA or Premier League.

Carib cricket started going downhill from mid nineties.. the Lara, Ambrose, Walsh era was the last of the greats that started in late 80s and ended in late nineties with Chanderpaul being the last to go in the 2000s. Bcci had no muscle then.
Usain Bolt had said he would have played cricket if not Olympic sport. So there is a change in focus there. IcC had also awarded the WI a world cup in 2007 which was disastrous in the end. They lost lot of money there because the Chinese built expensive unviable stadiums and infra. Anyways.. that's WI, what about SL, ZIM and BD. Look at Afg , with so much pressure on them they are a respectable team. Do instead of taking the lazy way out to blame one country these countries need to also look within. I have put one article which shows current allocation. Its not that skewed. Most countries make a disproportionately high money compare to India.

 

[DabbuSardar]

Sadly most rich nations don't play cricket and a couple that do, cricket is 4th or 5th ranked sport in those countries...Good luck keeping it alive with homegrown talent of India playing on dead tracks generating high scoring matches while burying veggie phast bowlers into the ground.

Australia, NZ, Netherland, England are not rich nations.

If you guys need to defend your failed nation, at least dignify your excuses
.

 

[delta2]

Australia, NZ, Netherland, England are not rich nations.

If you guys need to defend your failed nation, at least dignify your excuses
.

The hoards of people lining up to migrate to these countries at any cost disagree with you.

There are no people risking their lives to move to India. However brown people are risking their lives and the lives of their kids through Winter hells to get into these countries.

Any nation with a 60%+ poverty rate is a failed nation.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Did not watch a single game unfortunately
except for Final only Australia's chase bit and pieces, even that was hardly watchable

Game not watchable , 400 runs per game, dead pitches

The Charm of Game is gone

a) No Bouncers
b) Dead Pitches
c) No Aggression between Bowlers and Batsmen - Zombie bowlers no reaction or match fee deducted


What I hate the most is the "agression" between Bowler vs Batsmen , I can't watch Timid game where even if you stare , your match fee is deducted

The dead pitches have ruined allure of Fast Pace Bowlers


With out Spin Bowlers bowling the Doosra , even the Spin attack is timid and unattractive to watch