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How are Pakistan and Palestine different?

We Pakistanis never came from a different continent, we always belonged to our land (Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, Kashmir). And we Muslims made the majority in our land for centuries. Its not like Israelis, who came from Europe because they were tortured by Nazis, and their holy book said they came from Jerusalem thousands of years ago.

And throughout much of history, Pakistan and India were not one:

Israelis are like Americans. They came from a different continent, invaded a country and stole the country from the natives and killed the natives of the land. We were always native to our land, we didnt come from a different continent, and some hindus and sikhs who lived in our land left to India, while some Muslims came from India to Pakistan but the vast majority always lived in the land of Pakistan.

The " we" pakistan you claimed never existed till the "They" Indians gave in and let you be in 47... is my point. they was no " we pakistan" till a few decades ago... they was a "we as people from this land" perhaps- but no we " pakistan"... yeah.
 
The " we" pakistan you claimed never existed till the "They" Indians gave in and let you be in 47... is my point. they was no " we pakistan" till a few decades ago... they was a "we as people from this land" perhaps- but no we " pakistan"... yeah.

There was no India before 1947. It was British India, just because you people kept the word the goraiy engraiz gave you does not mean all of British India was yours. Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, Kashmir was always ours and was always Muslim majority FOR CENTURIES. We decided what we wanted for our land. You hindus were ALWAYS a minority in our lands even centuries before the Independence of Pakistan, so you have no say what we did for our land. Most of you people live in Central/South India, which we have no historical, cultural, or linguistic similarities with whatsoever. The only people we have in common in India CULTURALLY LINGUISTICALLY AND HISTORICALLY are with Punjabis in India who only make 3% of your population...so get away from us dravidian. We dont want anything to do with you people, never did and never will !!!
 
There was no India before 1947. It was British India, just because you people kept the word the goraiy engraiz gave you does not mean all of British India was yours. Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, Kashmir was always ours and was always Muslim majority FOR CENTURIES. We decided what we wanted for our land. You hindus were ALWAYS a minority in our lands even centuries before the Independence of Pakistan, so you have no say what we did for our land. Most of you people live in Central/South India, which we have no historical, cultural, or linguistic similarities with whatsoever. The only people we have in common in India CULTURALLY LINGUISTICALLY AND HISTORICALLY are with Punjabis in India who only make 3% of your population...so get away from us dravidian. We dont want anything to do with you people, never did and never will !!!

Yeah.. We know.. You would rather be a terrorist.. Right?? ;) (I remember you saying it in some other thread)

btw, check the membership status and date of membership of India (not british India) in the UN. You will find that it is a few year before 1947..
 
Yeah.. We know.. You would rather be a terrorist.. Right?? ;)

btw, check the membership status and date of membership of India (not british India) in the UN. You will find that it is a few year before 1947..

It doesnt matter what the UN says. Historically speaking, the only parts of India that was "one" with Pakistan throughout much of the history of South Asia was Punjab and India Occupied Kashmir. Everything you have south of Punjab is foreign to us Pakistanis, we dont even understand what you speak or understand the names of the food you eat. South of Punjab is where most of India's population is from, and we have nothing in common with the vast majority of you people, never did and never will !!!!!!!!

Just because the British combined us together for their empire, and gave the word "India" for their empire, and you kept the British word doesn't mean that our land belongs to you. The vast majority of you people can not even trace any of your ancestors who came from our Pak Sarzameen.

Judging from your people's mentality, Jinnah was right. Partition had to happen. If it didnt happen, you Hindus would want to take the place of the British and would want to rule over us.

Thank GOD we separated from you people.
 
There was no India before 1947. It was British India, just because you people kept the word the goraiy engraiz gave you does not mean all of British India was yours. Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, Kashmir was always ours and was always Muslim majority FOR CENTURIES. We decided what we wanted for our land. You hindus were ALWAYS a minority in our lands even centuries before the Independence of Pakistan, so you have no say what we did for our land. Most of you people live in Central/South India, which we have no historical, cultural, or linguistic similarities with whatsoever. The only people we have in common in India CULTURALLY LINGUISTICALLY AND HISTORICALLY are with Punjabis in India who only make 3% of your population...so get away from us dravidian. We dont want anything to do with you people, never did and never will !!!

now facts matter in a debate, like the facts that you were undeniable , perhaps reluctantly, Indians that fought for a free India under the British rule. which brings the whole thread back into its premise " what is difference between Pak and Palestine?" ...

now above you said what UN says does not matter , which brings me to the other question that now is being shyed away from... if UN don't matter then what gives on Kashmir? because you cite them as a part of your argument for decades now...

to the rest of your hate , racial incitements above (Post above this)- I say, I hope you busted a vein stressing on such hate...

So far- I have shown that it is indeed baffling that any Pakistani would stand on that bully pulpit and scream Palestanine on all lands/ no Israel at all...
 
Some people claimed Pakistan come out partition of India which is incorrect. Indians feel insulted and emotional in this issues.

Independence Day

Pakistan August 14
India August 15

'Pakistan' name is decide by its people, 'India' name was decide by British long ago. That's big differences. :)
 
now facts matter in a debate, like the facts that you were undeniable , perhaps reluctantly, Indians that fought for a free India under the British rule. which brings the whole thread back into its premise " what is difference between Pak and Palestine?" ...

now above you said what UN says does not matter , which brings me to the other question that now is being shyed away from... if UN don't matter then what gives on Kashmir? because you cite them as a part of your argument for decades now...

to the rest of your hate , racial incitements above (Post above this)- I say, I hope you busted a vein stressing on such hate...

So far- I have shown that it is indeed baffling that any Pakistani would stand on that bully pulpit and scream Palestanine on all lands/ no Israel at all...

I can only imagine his condition, when lowly Dravidians upstages our racial superior neighbors in almost all fields of life.

There will be a question mark always: How is this possible?? LOL
 
There was no India before 1947. It was British India, just because you people kept the word the goraiy engraiz gave you does not mean all of British India was yours. Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, Kashmir was always ours and was always Muslim majority FOR CENTURIES. We decided what we wanted for our land. You hindus were ALWAYS a minority in our lands even centuries before the Independence of Pakistan, so you have no say what we did for our land. Most of you people live in Central/South India, which we have no historical, cultural, or linguistic similarities with whatsoever. The only people we have in common in India CULTURALLY LINGUISTICALLY AND HISTORICALLY are with Punjabis in India who only make 3% of your population...so get away from us dravidian. We dont want anything to do with you people, never did and never will !!!


LOL. Someone getting all emotional. Relax bro, not good to have all this emotions on this holy month ;)

On topic (this is one of the few topics that I'm well knowledge-able about, being a fan of 1940's/World War 2 history), Pakistan and Palestine are very different. Two different scenarios all together.

If anything, I think Pakistan has one thing in common with Israel.

Both were created for religion :)
 
It doesnt matter what the UN says. Historically speaking, the only parts of India that was "one" with Pakistan throughout much of the history of South Asia was Punjab and India Occupied Kashmir. Everything you have south of Punjab is foreign to us Pakistanis, we dont even understand what you speak or understand the names of the food you eat. South of Punjab is where most of India's population is from, and we have nothing in common with the vast majority of you people, never did and never will !!!!!!!!

Just because the British combined us together for their empire, and gave the word "India" for their empire, and you kept the British word doesn't mean that our land belongs to you. The vast majority of you people can not even trace any of your ancestors who came from our Pak Sarzameen.

Judging from your people's mentality, Jinnah was right. Partition had to happen. If it didnt happen, you Hindus would want to take the place of the British and would want to rule over us.

Thank GOD we separated from you people.
actually India should thank Jinnah for creating Pakistan.

he saved India ( indirectly ) from wrath of american policies and unstable afghan.
 
I suggest that the thread starter read 'Jinnah Of Pakistan' by Stanley Wolpert.

Pakistan was created by legal means, the king emperor of Britain issued a decree and the Indian parliament also voted. We did not claim partition by force. It was all through legal means. The Cabinet mission, Cripps proposals, all were part of it. Gandhi was o the opinion Quit And Divide that is , Britain should first leave Indian subcontinent and then Jinnah ( The muslims) and the hindus can sort out there differences, But Jinnah was of the opinion of 'divide and quit' , which essentialy means that british should first divide and propose partition, then leave subcontinent.

You should pay more attention in history class!!
 
Jinnah always used the word 'Bharat' rather than India, because India was given by british in connection with the Indus. Just signifies the importance of the name of the country.
 
Some people claimed Pakistan come out partition of India which is incorrect. Indians feel insulted and emotional in this issues.

Independence Day

Pakistan August 14
India August 15

'Pakistan' name is decide by its people, 'India' name was decide by British long ago. That's big differences. :)

There's a thread on this very forum called 'Motivation behind selecting the name India'. Please go through that before repeating popular myths.
 
When pakistanis say pakistan existed for centuries, they are not saying pakistan existed as a land or country, they are claiming the idea of pakistan i.e. muslim ruling over themselves existed for centuries... Its hard for an Indian to grasp this idea..
 
There was no India before 1947. It was British India, just because you people kept the word the goraiy engraiz gave you does not mean all of British India was yours. Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, NWFP, Kashmir was always ours and was always Muslim majority FOR CENTURIES. We decided what we wanted for our land. You hindus were ALWAYS a minority in our lands even centuries before the Independence of Pakistan, so you have no say what we did for our land. Most of you people live in Central/South India, which we have no historical, cultural, or linguistic similarities with whatsoever. The only people we have in common in India CULTURALLY LINGUISTICALLY AND HISTORICALLY are with Punjabis in India who only make 3% of your population...so get away from us dravidian. We dont want anything to do with you people, never did and never will !!!

Pakistan was created for the Muslims of the subcontinent....NOT for Muslims of the Northwest....

Were all the Muslims of the subcontinent consulted or was a vote taken to ask them if they wanted a seperate land? NO!!

Pakistan (Modern boundaries) what it is today and the "concept of Pakistan" which was the basis/justification of partition are two completely different ideas.....The OP is referring to the latter

The only part of your post that I agree with you on is that "we have nothing in common with you"

Indians (Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, etc) do not have a tendency to strap on a suicide belt in the name of religion....So completely with you on that.....Its best you Pakistanis stay away from anything India...
We would hate to have the progress of our country hampered due to the medieval minded people that inhabit your current boundaries...
 

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