Honor killing is against Islamic laws

[muse]

Moslem men do not have a monoply on abusing women

And, so? Will hiding or pointing fingers at others solve our problem?? Is it Ok that we have this problem as long as Indians and English have such problems as well?

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

There was no need to drag Islam into this. Islam stopped Honour Killings; rather than promoting it.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Islam does not allow any kind of killings,

if you kill another human being, you are killing all man kind,

it does not matter what religion he/she is from, you cant kill any human being.

"Honor killing" are just the part of their culture, it has NOTHING at all to do with Islam.

 

[lem34]

And, so? Will hiding or pointing fingers at others solve our problem?? Is it Ok that we have this problem as long as Indians and English have such problems as well?

I am not stating that its ok to abuse women. Its not. However if you look at the west press you would think that pakistanis and muslims are the only perps of dv which is not the case. Simply its not a or muslim issue its just an issue.

 

[desioptimist]

Dont know about pakistan, but in India, honour killing is not a religious issue. There are specific regions in India(e.g. north Indian states bordering punjab) where this happens, and perpetrators can belong to any religion.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I don't know why our so called honour revolve around women. I mean pre-martial or extra martial sex is forbidden for boht men and women but men in our society can do whatever they want and get away easily as never heard that someone killed their son or brothers for doing pre-martial sex but its always women whose wrong actions bring shame for families. Why shame is associated only with wrong actions of women?

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Dont know about pakistan, but in India, honour killing is not a religious issue. There are specific regions in India(e.g. north Indian states bordering punjab) where this happens, and perpetrators can belong to any religion.

I think you are not right. Someone posted a news here where a mother killed her daughter because she married with guy of different religion and according to them did bring shame for family

 

[jayron]

I think you are not right. Someone posted a news here where a mother killed her daughter because she married with guy of different religion and according to them did bring shame for family

What he meant was, it is more a culture induced one than religion. a Hindu/muslim from Haryana is prone to honor killing while a Hindu/muslim from Kerala is not.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

What he meant was, it is more a culture induced one than religion. a Hindu/muslim from Haryana is prone to honor killing while a Hindu/muslim from Kerala is not.

Culture is a way of living and mostly its religion of a person who dictate his culture

 

[desioptimist]

What he meant was, it is more a culture induced one than religion. a Hindu/muslim from Haryana is prone to honor killing while a Hindu/muslim from Kerala is not.

Thanks for clarifying my point.

Culture is a way of living and mostly its religion of a person who dictate his culture

To repeat the point:
There are cases of honor killing in specific regions in India, can belong to people of any religion. It depends on local culture, specifically the areas that are traditionally male dominated society have more instances of it happening.

The same regions are also responsible for most other crimes against women, i.e. illegal abortion, rape and other violence.

Religion dictates some aspects of human behavior, not all.

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Culture is a way of living and mostly its religion of a person who dictate his culture

We see a little of that happen in Pakistan but much more of the other way around.

 

[lonelyone]

I've never heard of a "honour killing" in Bangladesh. Its restricted to the tribal regions India, Arabs and Kurds mainly.

 

[niaz]

Being a Pakistani and having spent most of my childhood and early adulthood in a Punjab village, I have come to the conclusion that even though overt practices of Islam may be the same, actual beliefs and practices as observed in different parts of the world are different.

This is probably due to the fact that when non-Muslims convert, inherent beliefs and superstitions carry on. Examples that I personally came across are:

-In most Arab countries majority only offers ‘Farz’ whereas prayers in the subcontinent include ‘Sunnat’ as a common practice.

-People think nothing of offering prayers without covering their heads in the UAE; on the other hand I was taught that one must cover one’s head when offering prayer.

-Female circumcision very common in African Muslims is non-existent in Iran, Afghanistan and the subcontinent.

-Even though Ibne Al Arabi was born in Spain of Arabic parents, Sufism found popularity among the Central Asian and the subcontinent Muslims.

-Indian Muslims consider wearing white during marriage ceremony as inauspicious (because Hindu widows wear white) whereas nearly all Middle Eastern countries white is common colour of the wedding dress. White being a symbol of purity.

-Among the subcontinent divorced women carry a stigma, not so in the Middle East.

-Parents of nubile girls ask for a lot of money as ‘Maher or Dower ' in nearly all Middle Eastern countries and very little ‘Jehaize’ is given to the daughter. Following the Hindu traditions, in Pakistani Punjab, parents of the boy expect a lot of dowry from the bride and ‘Maher’ is only nominal.

I remember a Baluch MNA declaring that ‘Vanni’ is a part of their tribal culture. Taliban consider many Pashtun tribal customs such as banning female education as Islamic even though these may have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam. IMO the honour killings are also remnants of the old tribal tradition.

I was taught that ‘suicide’ is forbidden in Islam. (As interpreted by the verse 29 of Sura Al Nissa, which translates as ‘And don’t kill yourselves, Allah is most merciful to you and again in Sura Al Baqar verse 195 which says ‘And don’t throw yourselves in destruction&#8217. Ever since Al-Qaida made Syed Qutub’s teachings acceptable; suicide bombers think that they are doing Allah’s work. Most of the traditional Muslim scholars keep quiet about it despite the practice having no precedence in any ‘Hadith’; many ignorant Muslims now think nothing wrong with commiting suicide.

In conclusion it is fair to say that many ideas and customs practiced by Muslims have nothing to do with Islam. Problem arises when each one considers their version to be the correct one with the exclusion of all others.