Hong Kong bill passes the House

[DavidsSling]

CNBC's Ylan Mui and Eunice Yoon report that a bill supporting the protesters in Hong Kong has passed the House. Discussing how it will impact trade talks, with CNBC's Melissa Lee and the Fast Money traders, Pete Najarian, Mark Tepper, Karen Finerman and Guy Adami.

 

[PakFactor]

CNBC's Ylan Mui and Eunice Yoon report that a bill supporting the protesters in Hong Kong has passed the House. Discussing how it will impact trade talks, with CNBC's Melissa Lee and the Fast Money traders, Pete Najarian, Mark Tepper, Karen Finerman and Guy Adami.

American's can wipe their asses with the papers it's written on.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

BEIJING (AP) — China reacted furiously Thursday to President Donald Trump’s signing two bills aimed at supporting human rights in Hong Kong, summoning the U.S. ambassador to protest and warning the move would undermine cooperation with Washington.

Hong Kong, a former British colony that was granted semi-autonomy when China took control in 1997, has been rocked by six months of sometimes violent pro-democracy demonstrations.

Thousands of pro-democracy activists crowded a public square in downtown Hong Kong on Thursday night for a “Thanksgiving Day” rally to thank the United States for passing the laws and vowed to “march on” in their fight.

Trump’s approval of the bills was not unexpected. Neither was the reaction from Beijing, given China’s adamant rejections of any commentary on what it considers an internal issue.

Nevertheless, the clash comes at a sensitive time and could upset already thorny trade negotiations between the two nations.

Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng told U.S. Ambassador Terry Branstad that the move constituted “serious interference in China’s internal affairs and a serious violation of international law,” a foreign ministry statement said.

Le called it a “nakedly hegemonic act.” He urged the U.S. not to implement the bills to prevent greater damage to U.S.-China relations, the ministry said.

In a statement about the meeting, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing said, “the Chinese Communist Party must honor its promises to the Hong Kong people.”

The U.S. “believes that Hong Kong’s autonomy, its adherence to the rule of law, and its commitment to protecting civil liberties are key to preserving its special status under U.S. law,” it said.

The U.S. laws, which passed both chambers of Congress almost unanimously, mandate sanctions on Chinese and Hong Kong officials who carry out human rights abuses in Hong Kong, require an annual review of Hong Kong’s favorable trade status and prohibit the export to Hong Kong police of certain nonlethal munitions.

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[Foggy_Bottom]

Le called it a “nakedly hegemonic act.”

Hegemony is an interesting choice of a word here. If you want an appropriate example, it would be the ridiculous assertion made for the territorial grab in the in S China seas, and militarization based on self-made ancient maps against the rights of neighboring sovereign countries.

 

[YeBeWarned]

both countries are busy in undermining each other . I doubt both US or China gives a crap about the people who are suffering because of their policies etc .

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

both countries are busy in undermining each other . I doubt both US or China gives a crap about the people who are suffering because of their policies etc .

Your comment is rather surprising given your government's stance on Kashmir. I would imagine you would have support for the US stance and empathy for the HK'ers and their population for self-determination, democratic rights, and self-governance.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Your comment is rather surprising given your government's stance on Kashmir. I would imagine you would have support for the US stance and empathy for the HK'ers and their population for self-determination, democratic rights, and self-governance.

Can you be more specific what exactly is my Govt's Stance on Kashmir ?

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Can you be more specific what exactly is my Govt's Stance on Kashmir ?

Obvious in similarity as HK'ers are demanding from China

 

[YeBeWarned]

Obvious in similarity as HK'ers are demanding from China

But US also has One China Policy as well right ? And Pakistan stance over Kashmir has a long history with 3 Wars purposely fought over that .. how many War did America fought for HK ? Do you have any Borders connecting mainland US to HK ? your country is meddling in matters which is not yours to begin with, The world would have been a better place if countries mind their own businesses .

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

But US also has One China Policy as well right ? And Pakistan stance over Kashmir has a long history with 3 Wars purposely fought over that .. how many War did America fought for HK ? Do you have any Borders connecting mainland US to HK ? your country is meddling in matters which is not yours to begin with, The world would have been a better place if countries mind their own businesses .

I think you are not quite getting my point. Did your PM not repeatedly ask us to mediate over Kashmir? I thought I keep reading how your representatives are asking world leaders in every forum to interject for Kashmir. Why are you being selective on HK'ers aspirations for self-determination and the US' support for it? Do you want the world to have the same hands-off stance on Kashmir as you are advocating for HK?

 

[YeBeWarned]

I think you are not quite getting my point. Did your PM not repeatedly ask us to mediate over Kashmir? I thought I keep reading how your representatives are asking world leaders in every forum to interject for Kashmir. Why are you being selective on HK'ers aspirations for self-determination and the US' support for it? Do you want the world to have the same hands-off stance on Kashmir as you are advocating for HK?

Its you who miss the point, Kashmir is a bilateral issue between Pakistan and India, HK is not and US has nto fought any wars for them or share the people or culture, the only reason US is supporting them is to undermine Chinese Position because they are your rivals, If US was indeed a Champion of Fighting for people's freedom than we won't have Occupied Palestine and Kashmir today .
Plus its not just Pakistan but according to your President Even MODI asked him to mediate in Kashmir issue , ever wondered two countries to whom this is a never ending issue and nuclear Flash point wants to resolve it but HK is not . So you comparing the HK with Kashmir is wrong .

 

[beijingwalker]

Hong kong is part of China, as long as this doesn't change, China is always the final winner and has the last laugh, the west is fighting a losing battle in Hong kong, they are just so naive thinking they are winning.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Its you who miss the point, Kashmir is a bilateral issue between Pakistan and India, HK is not and US has nto fought any wars for them or share the people or culture, the only reason US is supporting them is to undermine Chinese Position because they are your rivals, If US was indeed a Champion of Fighting for people's freedom than we won't have Occupied Palestine and Kashmir today .
Plus its not just Pakistan but according to your President Even MODI asked him to mediate in Kashmir issue , ever wondered two countries to whom this is a never ending issue and nuclear Flash point wants to resolve it but HK is not . So you comparing the HK with Kashmir is wrong .

Nope, you missed the point by miles. Let's try a simplified approach. Last attempt

Your premise is you are against US support for HK'ers. HK'ers are asking for self-determination, not unlike Kashmiris. Pakistan on behalf of Kashmiris and some Kashmiris groups themselves are asking for world support and to put pressure on India.

If you want us to put pressure and support Kashmiris; why are you against HK'ers asking the same of us and us giving them our support? Are you saying if there was no nuclear flashpoint the Kashmiri cause would not be worth world support? It looks hypocritical. Thanks. I'm done explaining the point.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Nope, you missed the point by miles. Let's try a simplified approach. Last attempt

I think you are either trolling or have no brain cells to understand the simple Words ..
Kashmir is part of Pakistan, its connected to us via land , people , culture , food , religion , resources , and we fought wars to liberate them cause we considered it our stolen/occupied land . I can't be more simple than that

Your premise is you are against US support for HK'ers. HK'ers are asking for self-determination, not unlike Kashmiris. Pakistan on behalf of Kashmiris and some Kashmiris groups themselves are asking for world support and to put pressure on India.

First I am not against it, I just know that US is supporting HK only to undermine China and rest is all BS . I gave 2 other examples where people are fighting for Freedom and self determination and Yet US has not passed any law's against it ( Kashmir & Palestine )
And you are dead wrong, Kashmiri's are asking for Freedom and Self determination, you are welcome to visit any Kashmir related thread here on PDF . Pakistan is not the only one Trying to get Kashmiri's their independence but they are fighting and protesting themselves , We are a party to that conflict by many reasons ..

If you want us to put pressure and support Kashmiris; why are you against HK'ers asking the same of us and us giving them our support? Are you saying if there was no nuclear flashpoint the Kashmiri cause would not be worth world support? It looks hypocritical. Thanks. I'm done explaining the point.

Well Because that is how Govt's work for Diplomatic support, and when did US pass a law in favor Of Kashmir ? like US congress did for HK ? because to them Pakistan means nothing and India is a big Economy and Possible Investment hub, As for HK US is doing it all just to counter China, like US has meddle in almost every Chinese matter internal or external only to undermine China nothing more nothing less .
No I am not saying, you are assuming things yourself, which i can't help you , A doctor might .. I have used Simple words and sentences to explain how Kashmir is different for Pakistan than HK is for US .

 

[Menthol]

China is too good against USA who play dirty.