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Meanwhile, YLH is at your doorstep, and any time you want to summon his detailed knowledge of the great man, you know the single, simple step that is needed.@Joe Shearer @Ssan
Ishtiaq Lahori Sb has also replied, though his reply wasn't very useful. He wrote:
"You read my Jinnah book, the reference is given there."
I obtained a copy of Ishtiaq Sb's book, "Jinnah: His Successes, Failures and Role in History," and on page 473, he references the same article by Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa from The Friday Times that we previously discussed. Ishtiaq Sb mentions that Dr. Ayesha was kind enough to share with him the original note of the UK high commissioner, which is archived at Kew Gardens under file number DO 142/476. What is interesting, however, is that Ishtiaq Sb attributes the content of the letter not to Dr. Ayesha herself, but to "Jinnah, Pakistan and Islamic Identity: The Search for Saladin," a book I went through, but couldn't find any mention of the alleged letter. However, the author of the book, Akbar S Ahmad, does mention Jinnah's meeting with Al-Banna. I have also brought this apparent mistake to Ishtiaq Lahori Sahib's attention, let's see if he responds.
It doesn't seem like we'll make any progress by reaching out to the authors who are being evasive. So, to settle this debate once and for all, I have requested a copy directly from the British National Archives. They have said it will take about two weeks until June 20th to get the copy sent to us.
Meanwhile, YLH is at your doorstep, and any time you want to summon his detailed knowledge of the great man, you know the single, simple step that is needed.
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I agree with the tendency of your remark.
I agree with the tendency of your remark.
If it had been the other Ayesha-ji, Dr. Ayesha Jalal, that would have been several times more weighty, in keeping with the relative standing of the two learned people.
Point taken, but as a courtesy to @Ssan , I hope we can stay with this a little longer.
We all owe you our thanks for the focussed attention you have given to the subject, and the illumination you have brought to the subject.Indeed, sir, we should await a response from the record copying team at the British National Archives before reaching a final conclusion on this matter. So far, what we know is that Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa published an article in April 2017 in the weekly publication, The Friday Times, where she asserted that Jinnah wrote a letter to Hassan Al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, in January 1948. In this letter, Jinnah supposedly requested Islamic scholars from the Muslim Brotherhood to come to Pakistan and assist in establishing an Islamic state.
Ishtiaq Lahori, in his 2020 book titled "Jinnah - His Successes, Failures and Role in History," referenced Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa's claim and mentioned that she personally provided him with a copy of the original note on the letter. This note was sent by the then UK High Commissioner from Karachi to London in March 1948 and is archived in the Kew Gardens under file No Do 142/476. I think the document we have in the National Archives is the note sent by the British diplomat, not the letter itself. However, we should wait for the National Archives record copying team, whom I have contacted, to verify this.
A very summing up of the current state of play, if a mildly facetious phrase may be permitted.Yasser Latif Hamdani, an authoritative figure on Jinnah studies endorsed by the esteemed Ayesha Jalal herself, has challenged Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa multiple times through direct tweets and published articles, requesting her to provide evidence supporting the authenticity of the alleged contents of the letter mentioned in her 2017 article. Unfortunately, Dr. Ayesha has not responded
Thanks to @Ssan Sahib's persistent insistence, we find ourselves discussing the purported letter here on PDF. All the individuals mentioned above have been contacted, and soon we will ascertain whether such a letter exists and if it contains the attributed statements by Jinnah. If the letter is not found in the British Archives, we can confidently dismiss it. However, if it does exist, we can proceed with further debate on the subject.
@Ssan @Joe Shearer
I got a response from the record copying team at the National Archives about my request regarding a copy of Jinnah's supposed letter to Hassan Al Banna, which was said to be in their archives. Regrettably, they have conveyed that they don't have any record of such a letter. They have further suggested that if I am seeking specific fragments of information that might be dispersed throughout various documents, I am welcome to visit the national archives in order to personally examine the original records at no cost.
However, I believe that such a visit to the national archives won't be necessary, as our discussion revolved around the presence or absence of the letter in the British National archives, and it has been confirmed that no such letter exists. Any information provided by British staff in Cairo regarding Jinnah's relationship with Hassan al Banna, or the perspectives of British diplomats in Pakistan, are irrelevant in this context.
We all owe you our thanks for the focussed attention you have given to the subject, and the illumination you have brought to the subject.
A very summing up of the current state of play, if a mildly facetious phrase may be permitted.
I can confirm for you that it is not 1- as I do have a copy of the letter myself.
... This is from a spy who was intercepting communication between Jinnah and Hassan Al Banna and translating (which would mean translate for Banna and transcribe for Jinnah) some portion of it.