Hamas executes father and son for Israeli collaboration

[tallboy123]

Let me rephrase it.

If peace has to return to Middle-East, Israel has to be destroyed!

it is possible...
All the middle east countries like iran,arabia,jordan,sudan,pakistan,afghanistan,iraq,etc etc should start a holy war against Isreal to bring peace to ME..

On israel side they will have US,EU,India. no match for muslim armies

 

[500]

Majority of Palestinians support Hamas

I dont know, what i know that majority of Germans supported hitler, so whut?

and Suicide bombings as far as they are against Israeli Soldiers, that's alright, that's not terrorism, that's fighting against the occupiers with whatever they possess, in their case, their lives!

The overhelming majority of Hamas attacks are against civilians. Suicide attack against tank is not really effective.

And you are not aware of what's happening in Pakistan so please just STFU, there's no comparison between Israel-Palestinian conflict which is a Fight between oppressed and Aggressors (Occupier Israel) and a insurgency supported by foreign countries inside the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which is a sovereign state and is not occupying any land illegally!

yeah there is good terror and bad terror. Sorry it does not work like that. Terror is terror.

According to Quran suicide is a big sin. Thats why beside little crazy assasin sect Muslims never used kamikaze. Then in 80-es Iran started using suicide bomber against embasies and enemy soldiers. After Iran Hamas became a first Sunni organization to adopt suicide terror. More over they started to use suicides in massive way, against buses, markets crowded streets with random people... And many Muslims justified that because its against "occupation". So other groups thought: if its OK to commit suicide and blow up civilian buses for "occupation" why not for other holy causes? Thats how this pandora box was open. Ironically Israel defeated suicide terror long time ago.

 

[Xestan]

The overhelming majority of Hamas attacks are against civilians. Suicide attack against tank is not really effective.

Really? Well, Not justified but as you kill their civilians, they kill yours!

yeah there is good terror and bad terror. Sorry it does not work like that. Terror is terror.

If what Hamas is doing is terror, then what the hell Israel has been doing since 6 decades? Humanitarian work?

According to Quran suicide is a big sin. Thats why beside little crazy assasin sect Muslims never used kamikaze. Then in 80-es Iran started using suicide bomber against embasies and enemy soldiers. After Iran Hamas became a first Sunni organization to adopt suicide terror. More over they started to use suicides in massive way, against buses, markets crowded streets with random people... And many Muslims justified that because its against "occupation". So other groups thought: if its OK to commit suicide and blow up civilian buses for "occupation" why not for other holy causes? Thats how this pandora box was open. Ironically Israel defeated suicide terror long time ago.

In a battlefield it's allowed to take down your enemy in every way possible, Suicide attacks has a long history! it didn't start with Iran.

 

[Jade]

Let me rephrase it.

If peace has to return to Middle-East, Israel has to be destroyed!

Tell me one thing. What has Hamas doing for solving the Palestine problem? Hamas charter calls for replacement of Israel and the Palestinian Territories with an Islamic Palestinian state, although recently it amended it to recognize Israel under certain conditions. Israel is certainly not going to accept such positions nor is going to negotiate any deal with Hamas. Hamas is big hindrance for the Palestine solution

 

[PteX]

It`s amazing that Pakistanis cannot understand that what Hamas is to Israel, Taliban and Al-Qaeda is to Pakistan.
They both believe they are fighting occupations and they both justify terror attacks and suicide bombings as means for combat.

 

[Xestan]

It`s amazing that Pakistanis cannot understand that what Hamas is to Israel, Taliban and Al-Qaeda is to Pakistan.
They both believe they are fighting occupations and they both justify terror attacks and suicide bombings as means for combat.

TTP and Al-Qaeda are not fighting Pakistan with the excuse of us being occupiers! They have other reasons, it's a insurgency, a rebellion, hell of a difference between Hamas and these terrorist groups, Hamas is fighting occupation with the support of majority of the Palestinians, while here in Pakistan TTP is a whole different group.

 

[PteX]

TTP believes they are fighting in the name of Pakistan and her people, to liberate them. Whether it was to expel the Arab militants that fled from Afghanistan, fighting NATO or fighting the too little Islamic leadership in Pakistan, it does not matter.
They believe they are fighting for Pakistan.

 

[silko]

TTP believes they are fighting in the name of Pakistan and her people, to liberate them. Whether it was to expel the Arab militants that fled from Afghanistan, fighting NATO or fighting the too little Islamic leadership in Pakistan, it does not matter.
They believe they are fighting for Pakistan.

if they where, then they wouldnt revenge the death of osama on the pakistani people. those poor people who did nothing and suddenly an a$$ decides to blow himself and take 80 innocent people with him. so much for their pakistan love. they took my brothers and sisters away from me.

fighting against the government IS fighting against a country. what else did you thought. it's not like hamas only fights against knesset. it kills innocents to.

 

[PteX]

if they where, then they wouldnt revenge the death of osama on the pakistani people. those poor people who did nothing and suddenly an a$$ decides to blow himself and take 80 innocent people with him. so much for their pakistan love. they took my brothers and sisters away from me.

fighting against the government IS fighting against a country. what else did you thought. it's not like hamas only fights against knesset. it kills innocents to.

That was what i said... They believe that they are doing it for Pakistanis as much as Hamas believes what they do is for Palestinians.
Both are terrorists doing what they do for themselves and not for their people.

 

[salvage]

if they did collaborated then they deserved it

 

[TheJewverine]

I by no means support what Hamas does in Palestine and the attacks they launch inside Israel, however, hate only begets hate, you should listen to what most Israelis have to say for the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs, they hate their guts! There is bound to be hatred in return.

I don't agree with this at all, stereotyping is what causes hate in the first place. I don't hate Muslims, simply because they are Muslim. I would hope a Muslim wouldn't hate me for no explainable reason (although my experiences on this forum are beginning to make me think otherwise...) Whenever someone groups a kind of people based on their own nationality, race, color, etc. they are only cheating themselves.

 

[Xestan]

TTP believes they are fighting in the name of Pakistan and her people, to liberate them. Whether it was to expel the Arab militants that fled from Afghanistan, fighting NATO or fighting the too little Islamic leadership in Pakistan, it does not matter.
They believe they are fighting for Pakistan.

Your understanding is senseless, you don't know a sh*t about what's this TTP group all about and you're comparing it with Hamas, can you understand simple things, TTP is fighting without any solid reason, their stance is disputed, some of them say, they want a True Islamic State, some say, they want US-Pak relations to be ceased, some say they are fighting because of Drone attacks, whatever the reasons they present, it makes them a Internal Rebellion, a insurgency, funded n supported by hostile Intelligence agencies.

On the other hand, Hamas is not your home-grown terrorist group, they consist of locals of the Country which you are occupying illegally, like Afghan Taliban are fighting US-NATO forces because they are aggressors, some of their actions can't be justified but then again, we have to see who started killing the innocents first and that's Illegal State of Israel.

 

[TheJewverine]

Your understanding is senseless, you don't know a sh*t about what's this TTP group all about and you're comparing it with Hamas, can you understand simple things, TTP is fighting without any solid reason, their stance is disputed, some of them say, they want a True Islamic State, some say, they want US-Pak relations to be ceased, some say they are fighting because of Drone attacks, whatever the reasons they present, it makes them a Internal Rebellion, a insurgency, funded n supported by hostile Intelligence agencies.

On the other hand, Hamas is not your home-grown terrorist group, they consist of locals of the Country which you are occupying illegally, like Afghan Taliban are fighting US-NATO forces because they are aggressors, some of their actions can't be justified but then again, we have to see who started killing the innocents first and that's Illegal State of Israel.

 

[PteX]

Your understanding is senseless, you don't know a sh*t about what's this TTP group all about and you're comparing it with Hamas, can you understand simple things, TTP is fighting without any solid reason, their stance is disputed, some of them say, they want a True Islamic State, some say, they want US-Pak relations to be ceased, some say they are fighting because of Drone attacks, whatever the reasons they present, it makes them a Internal Rebellion, a insurgency, funded n supported by hostile Intelligence agencies.

On the other hand, Hamas is not your home-grown terrorist group, they consist of locals of the Country which you are occupying illegally, like Afghan Taliban are fighting US-NATO forces because they are aggressors, some of their actions can't be justified but then again, we have to see who started killing the innocents first and that's Illegal State of Israel.

By your logic it`s OK to commit suicide bombings to kill innocent civilians because they are part of the enemy. Well maybe you`ll experience the legitimacy of suicide bombing first hand.

 

[Bratva]

When i was a kid, i thought Israel to be monster, Hammas and fatah to bhe some super hero. As time passes and i become mature. i realized what HAMAS is doing is completely wrong, A little bombings here and there killed so many Palestinians back. What is purpose of their resistance? if they can not stop killings of Civilians which are dying because of them,

You can not Fight with a monster until you are properly equipped in which case you can not defend your back, Totally United with no internal frictions and wars. have a unified government which can equally voice their desire for freedom. Expose Israeli settlements and harrasments and brutalities through videos to convince the world you are backing th wrong choice. Two teenagers killed by Israeli Rubber bullets. i still can not forget that video. One brother got hit, another is trying to help him. He placed his head in his lap desperately trying to console his brother. But alas the consoler also got hit and both died.