Haiti is now almost completely deforested

[Clutch]

I agree with you, but Hati is actually different.

The European powers actually got together in the 1700s when Hati fight for it's freedom and "made an example of it" so other slaves would not revolt.

Could very well be.. I have heard of similar history where the Hari slave revolt was deemed a threat by the European colonizers.

But the fact remains... that no outside power can ultimately hold you down unless ultimately you allow them to do so by own poor unity or corrupt leaderships.

 

[Zibago]

Fought off the whiteman lol.

And lol a habshi talking about fathers. At least I have one

Lets not spread racism here shall we?

 

[Śakra]

Lets not spread racism here shall we?

I am only responding in kind to it

 

[Mugwop]

Fought off the whiteman lol.

And lol a habshi talking about fathers. At least I have one

So have you found your Father on this forum yet or are you still looking?

 

[halupridol]

Lets not spread racism here shall we?

Racism aside,,,negroes do seem to be stuck in evolution though,,,if historians like ibn khaldun made such observations hundreds of years ago,,n thr present attitude is fir everyone to see.
If things continue similarly,,,homo sapiens will evolve while they will slide into a subhuman level.

Wow! man your way of writing will make sakra look like a genius
I know it's hard for you to spell and even more difficult to read but this is a Pakistani forum.
So maybe you and your bend over buddy sakra should get lost and keep this forum clean.

Stay

 

[Mugwop]

Racism aside,,,negroes do seem to be stuck in evolution though,,,if historians like ibn khaldun made such observations hundreds of years ago,,n thr present attitude is fir everyone to see.
If things continue similarly,,,homo sapiens will evolve n they will slide into a subhuman level.


Stay

This comes from group of people who defecate in public despite modi giving them toilets.
A group of people who put heaters in temples for idols
The last president of the USA was a negro and indians were begging him to attack Pakistan. What does that make you?

 

[RealNapster]

Dominican rep. enforces the border very strongly I have heard. They do let Haitian migrant workers in, but they must have working permits etc and are not allowed to settle in the country.

I saw a documentry about it. The haitians cross border to sell some sort of “see animal-maybe a sort of fish i guess”. But they are not allowed to enter the market for 3-4 hours and police first let natives to sell there “machi”. And they say it happens daily

 

[Tshering22]

Feel bad for Hati.

They were never given a chance.
Every since their independence, European powers have tryed to destory them. Their current predicament is due to European nations refusing to trade with Hati or allow Hati to develop.

Could you please shed on the bold part a bit?

Why is Haiti under sanctions? They are not armed in any way.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Their current predicament is due to European nations refusing to trade with Hati or allow Hati to develop.

What??? Where are you getting this from??

 

[Rusty]

What??? Where are you getting this from??

history.
Seriously, read their history.
Hati won it's independence, and so the European countries wanted to make an example of them so the other slaves would not revolt.
Hati was essencially sanctioned in the 1700s

Could you please shed on the bold part a bit?

Why is Haiti under sanctions? They are not armed in any way.

They are not under sanctions now.
But when they won their freedom in the 1700s, the Europeans put them under sanction then.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

history.
Seriously, read their history.
Hati won it's independence, and so the European countries wanted to make an example of them so the other slaves would not revolt.
Hati was essencially sanctioned in the 1700s


They are not under sanctions now.
But when they won their freedom in the 1700s, the Europeans put them under sanction then.

That’s soooooo long ago it doesn’t matter anymore

 

[Desert Fox]

Shocking and appalling, the UN should get involved and help them get their act together, the place is a shambles according to one relative of mine who served their with PAK bat as part of UN peacekeeping ops.Kudos rascal

USA intervened three times to develope the country, and everytime the Americans withdrew Haitains went back to their old habits.

Also, some people claiming Europeans are to blame when in fact under French rule Haiti was the wealthiest island in the Caribbean and in Western hemisphere in general. How do you go from being the wealthiest to the most poorest in the Western hemisphere?

These people inherited the infrastructure from French, screwed it up, then Americans came in the first time, fixed things, left and again Haitians screwed it up, Americans came a second time, fixed things up, Haitians screwed up again, Americans come in a third time, fix things up, leave and Haitians screw it up again.

Sometimes a people are better off left to their own devices.

 

[Desert Fox]

history.
Seriously, read their history.
Hati won it's independence, and so the European countries wanted to make an example of them so the other slaves would not revolt.
Hati was essencially sanctioned in the 1700s


They are not under sanctions now.
But when they won their freedom in the 1700s, the Europeans put them under sanction then.

Granted Americans and Westerners in general have a habit of attacking, subverting and overthrowing foreign governments that refuse to tow the Globalist agenda. No denying.

Yet, North Korea doesn't look like Haiti, Iran doesn't look like Haiti, Syria doesn't look like Haiti (if we disregard the damage caused by the war).

Hell, even Afghanistan under the Taliban (1995-2001) had a stable government despite 16 years of war (10 years Soviet occupation, 6 years civil war) and American sanctions.

 

[Nilgiri]

I saw a documentry about it. The haitians cross border to sell some sort of “see animal-maybe a sort of fish i guess”. But they are not allowed to enter the market for 3-4 hours and police first let natives to sell there “machi”. And they say it happens daily

Yes this is current iteration...but there is history behind it as well.

There was also a dictator in Dominican republic that can be said to follow quite a racist policy before against Haitians in Dominican republic (before his time, the border was much more loose)...and also Haiti in general (he launched a few border wars etc against them). A lot of brutal conflict happened under his watch, you can say it was their equivalent of Partition here in subcontinent.

Here is bit of what I am referencing about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Trujillo#Haiti

So some of this attitude (rooted in some mix of truths, half-truths and lies like everywhere else in world) persists in the policy...on top of the major economic chasm between the two countries now as well.

USA intervened three times to develope the country, and everytime the Americans withdrew Haitains went back to their old habits.

Yah US never learned that development has to come from the people (from ground up)....you cant force development, democracy etc on people top down....it is lose-lose proposition.

 

[django]

Sometimes a people are better off left to their own devices.

Totally concur.Kudos Sir