Gwadar- turn it into a liberal city.

[Desert Fox]

Well it would be rather sad if Pakistanis themselves cant enjoy Pakistan

Well, as long as we continue to face this militant problem and other social issues that is pretty much the only solution.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well, as long as we continue to face this militant problem and other social issues that is pretty much the only solution.

Why Gwadar? Why not Karachi? It already is a city of 20 million and can develop much faster. Just think you will improve living standard of 20 million people and prevent terrorist from disturbing economic hub of Pakistan. Save Karachi from militant problem too, you want to save small city like Gwadar but not Karachi?

 

[M. Sarmad]

1st did I say the Quran asked to punish?
The concept of country, land and territory can be interchangeably used as state country land territory...your point being?

Firstly , There is no concept of state/country in Quran .... And then , In a so called "Islamic State" , where drinking,gambling etc. are punishable offenses (in the name of religion) , clear Quranic laws are violated ... :"Let there be no compulsion in religion" .... Don`t you see the irony here ??

As for where it says about punishing such people...well, hello such people are punishable by morals not the Quran!
esp when you are going to steal to get the money to bet
esp when you are going to rape when you are drunk
esp when you are going to be ram your car into a tree or a person when you are intoxicated!
Oh did I forget sell your daughter to pay back the bet?

In the countries where gambling , drinking etc . are legal , The law and order situation is much better than the "Islamic" countries ... So Your argument is invalid

 

[Progressive1]

Agree completely on gambling, Alcohol in addition we should also maintain a top notch beach there, rest of the points though are arguable.

 

[qamar1990]

I agree with everything but gambling should not be legal. Coming to Alcohol, it should be only sold to non-Muslims and tourists from abroad who carry permits for purchasing.

i disagree for one reason
i think pakistanis who don't want to live in a sharia state should have an option to live in an area with these freedoms without ring abroad.
we already have these permits ect.

I think we should make Gwadar a tourist attraction by planting a lot of palm trees and other exotic tropical plants along with construction of modern buildings with a Islamic Architectural design, it would go nice, kind of like a Oases.

if we have casinos and bars and clubs ect
the people will come.
it is already at such a good location.
it will be our own europe in pakistan.

 

[Dubious]

Firstly , There is no concept of state/country in Quran .... And then , In a so called "Islamic State" , where drinking,gambling etc. are punishable offenses (in the name of religion) , clear Quranic laws are violated ... :"Let there be no compulsion in religion" .... Don`t you see the irony here ??

Why are you jumping into Quran? Do you not have common sense to allow this crap in a country that is already going through enough? If you want to drink and gamble go ahead no need to get state's permission...wait there is no such thing as Islamic state ...right!

In the countries where gambling , drinking etc . are legal , The law and order situation is much better than the "Islamic" countries ... So Your argument is invalid

Really name one!

 

[qamar1990]

Where does Allah say in Quran that drinking and gambling are punishable crimes ??

well they are clearly forbidden but they are not punishable.
@Akheilos never said that they are punishable

Well it would be rather sad if Pakistanis themselves cant enjoy Pakistan

allow only educated limited number of people.
the reason i said that they should need permits to live there is because everybody would flock there.

 

[Dubious]

i disagree for one reason
i think pakistanis who don't want to live in a sharia state should have an option to live in an area with these freedoms without ring abroad.
we already have these permits ect.

They have another option the sea

Besides shariah is not coming to Pakistan anyday...coz to have a proper shariah system you need a Khalifah...yea the guy doesnt sit on a throne we dont have one! So anyone posing you with their Shariah bitch need to check themselves out w.r.t the shariah scan and mind you 10-20 acts illegal under shariah will merge like sewage floating on water (Man I am sleepy cant even think of some examples of similarities)

if we have casinos and bars and clubs ect
the people will come.
it is already at such a good location.
it will be our own europe in pakistan.

Casinos and bars and clubs do not call people to a country! What calls is security, exoticness (something different that they wont experience back home), good food and good hotels, things to do, places to visit!

 

[qamar1990]

Why Gwadar? Why not Karachi? It already is a city of 20 million and can develop much faster. Just think you will improve living standard of 20 million people and prevent terrorist from disturbing economic hub of Pakistan. Save Karachi from militant problem too, you want to save small city like Gwadar but not Karachi?

gawadar needs to be built, it has an important port.
we can make things the way we want, like plan it out properly.
karachi is a big mess.

Firstly , There is no concept of state/country in Quran .... And then , In a so called "Islamic State" , where drinking,gambling etc. are punishable offenses (in the name of religion) , clear Quranic laws are violated ... :"Let there be no compulsion in religion" .... Don`t you see the irony here ??




In the countries where gambling , drinking etc . are legal , The law and order situation is much better than the "Islamic" countries ... So Your argument is invalid

actually law and order is better in countries with sharia.
saudi arabia, iran ect… lowest crime rates in the world.

Agree completely on gambling, Alcohol in addition we should also maintain a top notch beach there, rest of the points though are arguable.

top notch nude beach

 

[Progressive1]

There are many Pakistanis who dont want to live life under any religious dictation whatsoever(overt or implied) but love the country as much as everyone.

 

[qamar1990]

They have another option the sea

Besides shariah is not coming to Pakistan anyday...coz to have a proper shariah system you need a Khalifah...yea the guy doesnt sit on a throne we dont have one! So anyone posing you with their Shariah bitch need to check themselves out w.r.t the shariah scan and mind you 10-20 acts illegal under shariah will merge like sewage floating on water (Man I am sleepy cant even think of some examples of similarities)

we don't have sharia but we have elements of it.
what time is it where you live?

Casinos and bars and clubs do not call people to a country! What calls is security, exoticness (something different that they wont experience back home), good food and good hotels, things to do, places to visit!

saudi arabia seems exotic and they got security and good hotels ect.
but nobody wants to go there lol.

 

[M. Sarmad]

well they are clearly forbidden but they are not punishable.

Well there are a lot of other things also that are clearly forbidden in Quran , but instead of being "punishable" , they are legally sanctioned .... "Riba" for example is a much "bigger sin" than gambling or drinking , but the whole banking system of "Islamic" Republic of Pakistan is based on it !! ...... Ham dhoka kis ko de rahay hain bhai ? khud ko k Allah ko ?

 

[qamar1990]

There are many Pakistanis who dont want to live life under any religious dictation whatsoever(overt or implied) but love the country as much as everyone.

thats why we need this lol. we will basically gain billions in revenue plus imagine all the technology we will get, like hong kong did to china.

 

[Progressive1]

top notch nude beach

yes we can also have a nude beach zone.

 

[qamar1990]

Well there are a lot of other things also that are clearly forbidden in Quran , but instead of being "punishable" , they are legally sanctioned .... "Riba" for example is a much "bigger sin" than gambling or drinking , but the whole banking system of "Islamic" Republic of Pakistan is based on it !! ...... Ham dhoka kis ko de rahay hain bhai ? khud ko k Allah ko ?

hum khud ko dhuka dey rahay hain.
pakistan should get sharia if people want it but they should also make gawadar like the way i proposed.

yes we can also have a nude beach section.

ok **** lets do it
call @Shabaz Sharif and nawaz and tell them to put a bill in parliament lol.