Greece to acquire 24 F-35 at a cost of $3billion, Defense Minister reveals

[Philip the Arab]

Yeah,the F35 and the Rafale never faced each others,even in exercises.

Meant F-22 my bad. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...as-f-22-stealth-fighter-not-invincible-111336

 

[IblinI]

Greece 82 F-16 Viper until 2028
Turkish Aselsan GaN based AESA Radar will be ready in 3 years for F-16s


Maybe Greece will have 24 F-35s between 2025 and 2028
but Greece until receives 24 F35s , Turkey will have developed its own TFX Fighter Jet , MIUS turbofan engine powered stealth UCAV , TF-2000 class Air warfare Destroyer , HISAR and SIPER medium/long range Air Defense Systems also more S400 Air Defense Systems will be in service


btw Greek F-35s will not find its Air Bases , when Greek F-35s comeback for landing
because of Turkish Armed Forces J600T , ATACMS , BORA , SOM , ATMACA , GEZGIN , KARGI , KGK-LR , HARM , AKBABA , SLAM-ER and RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile to destroy all Air Bases and Air Defense Systems in Greece and Greek Islands in a few hours




Greece was never bailed out ..... Greece remains a debtor's prison and the evidence is everywhere to be found that Greece is slowly dying under its EU induced euthanasia

and Greece to remain a European slave Colony until 2060 ... still Greece is dreaming about fighting with regional super power Turkey

-- Turkey has bigger GDP PPP than Greece+Israel+Egypt combined
-- Turkey has more military projects than Greece+Israel+Egypt combined

Greeks should pray for ERDOGAN that He spent over $60 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim countries between 2012 and 2019 , instead of producing tens of thousands of Ballistic and Cruise Missiles to turn not only Greece , but also whole region into stone age

Honestly I think you should be elected as the next Turkey president, so your country would be undoubtfuly the sole ruler of the region since you decided to bomb every nation that has qurrael with Turkey.

 

[KAL-EL]

Greece has Xena warrior princess And Hercules. That’s all they need.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

its very cheap if 3 billion for 24 jets m sure pakistan can get but we r not christion nation

Neither is Japan or Singapore

 

[pkd]

US would never let its top of the line, main stay fighter for the foreseeable future to go into the hand of one of the China's closest ally. Period.
Those having butterflies fluttering in their stomach, better murder them.

 

[Dante80]

Some more news about this, following a statement from the Greek Defense Minister.

Greece to acquire 24 F-35 at a cost of $3billion, Defense Minister reveals

Defense Minister, Nikos Panagiotopoulos, revealed Greece’s armament plans following the official visit of Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis to the White House. Greece plans to acquire 24 F-35 aircraft at a total cost of 3 billion USD including the infrastructure, proceed with the upgrade of 82 F-16 and possible purchase war ships and war material,Panagiotopoulos revealed. He added that there will be negotiations between the US Pentagon and the Greek side about the acquisition of war ships.

Speaking to Skai TV on Thursday morning, the Greek Defense Minister said that the F-35 issue was raised by Greece in an effort to achieve “air superiority over Turkey” in the coming years.

The acquisition of F-35 will follow the upgrade of fighter jets F-16 Viper, he clarified.
Referring to negotiations as a time-consuming procedure, he estimated that the acquisition of F-35 would begin after 2024.

The upgrade of 82-84 F-16 into the Viper version is to “start in these days” and is expected to last some 7 to 8 years.

“Someday Greece will also go to the 5th generation aircraft that has unique characteristics, the so-called stealth that is not detected by hostile radars but also has some formidable capabilities in terms of its electronic and weapon systems. Greece will, anyway, like the other countries, go to this 5th generation aircraft. The way we insist on doing this is firstly to upgrade the F-16 fleet to something between the 4th and 5th generations,” Panagiotopoulos said.

“When we are finished we will have upgraded the bulk of our planes, 82 to 84 F-16s, to the most up-to-date type for this type of aircraft, and have begun the process of acquiring the F-35s,” he said.

He underlined that “at the same time, we will have complemented the Mirage fleet because of their special features and the special weapons they carry, which is a type of necessity.”

The Defense Minister seemed certain that Turkey will not manage to acquire F-35 and that the Greek Air Force fleet will be superior to the one of the neighboring country.

On the possibility of acquiring ships and other war material, Minister Panagiotopoulos said that there are proposals to be discussed between the US Pentagon and the Greek side, and that these will be examined in detail by each sector in the coming period.

“There are two ways to obtain war material, either through the direct sales process and/or through the surplus of the US defense material,” Panagiotopoulos said.

PS No wonder that President Trump will never urge his friend Erdogan to refrain from creating tension in the East Mediterranean Sea. “Tension” mean nothing else than “boosting arms sales.”

Source:. https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2020/01/09/f35-greece-us-acquisition-mitsotakis/

 

[MMM-E]

Speaking to Skai TV on Thursday morning, the Greek Defense Minister said that the F-35 issue was raised by Greece in an effort to achieve “air superiority over Turkey” in the coming years.

never ever ..... stop dreaming
F35 can not save tiny Greece from the upcoming Turkish Armed Forces

GREECE

-- 24 F-35A between 2024 and 2028
-- 82 F-16 Viper until 2028
-- some old Mirage2000s
-- pathetic PATRIOT Air Defense Systems ......... and nothing else


in a few years there will be special Radars to detect F-35s from long distance

also S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems will be in service to turn any Fighter Jet into crap of metal over the Aegean

also TF-2000 class Air warfare Destroyers will be in service to block the Aegean against Greek Fighter Jets

also KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems are ready to jam Greek F-16's and F-35's radar over the Aegean from 200km away

also 4 of Stand off Jammer Aircrafts will be in service between 2023 and 2027 to jam Greek F-16's and F-35's radar from 400km away

also BORA , ATMACA and GEZGIN land / naval based Ballistic-Cruise Missiles to able destroying F-35 Air Bases in Greece within hours .... even I am not talking about upcoming 500+ km SOM-ER air launched Cruise Missile and RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile

also Turkish MIUS supersonic stealth UCAVs will be equipped with GaN based AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missiles

also Turkish Airforce will have the TFX air superiority Fighter Jets

also Turkey may buy SU-35 / SU-57 Fighter Jets from Russia , if F-35s not delivered


Turkish AESA Radar will be ready until 2023 for 163 of CCIP modernized F-16s

also by 2025 HURJET Fighter Jets will carry even 280km SOM Cruise Missille with land attack/anti ship capabilities to engage on land and naval targets

even soon AKINCI UCAVs will be equipped with AESA Radar , SOM Cruise Missille and GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missiles


Greeks stop dreaming and work with Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean or even the US can not save your tiny Greece in a war

and the US,Israel never will fight against Turkey .... They wants to use daydreamer Greeks as pawns against Turkey

 

[Goku]

never ever ..... stop dreaming .... there will not be dogfight anymore over the Aegean
and F35 can not save tiny Greece from the upcoming Turkish Armed Forces

GREECE

-- 24 F-35A between 2024 and 2028
-- 82 F-16 Viper until 2028
-- some old Mirage2000s
-- pathetic PATRIOT Air Defense Systems ......... and nothing else


in a few years there will be special Radars to detect F-35s from long distance

and S400 , SIPER Air Defense Systems will be in service to turn any Fighter Jet into crap of metal over the Aegean

also TF-2000 class Air warfare Destroyers will be in service to block the Aegean against Greek Fighter Jets

also KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems are ready to jam F-35's radar over the Aegean from 200km away

also BORA , ATMACA and GEZGIN land / naval based Ballistic-Cruise Missiles to able destroying F-35 Air Bases in Greece within hours .... even I am not talking about upcoming 500+ km SOM-ER air launched Cruise Missile and RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile

also Turkish MIUS supersonic stealth UCAVs will be equipped with GaN based AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missiles

also Turkish Airforce will have the TFX air superiority Fighter Jets



Turkish AESA Radar will be ready until 2023 for 163 of CCIP modernized F-16s

also by 2025 HURJET Fighter Jets will carry even 280km SOM Cruise Missille with land attack/anti ship capabilities to engage on land and naval targets

even soon AKINCI UCAVs will be equipped with AESA Radar , SOM Cruise Missille and GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missiles


Greeks stop dreaming and work with Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean or evenn the US can not save your tiny Greece

and the US,Israel never will fight against Turkey .... They wants to use daydreamer Greeks as pawns against Turkey

Do u byheart all such info or do u seriously take efforts to write such paragraphs? Salute man.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Greece 82 F-16 Viper until 2028
Turkish Aselsan GaN based AESA Radar will be ready in 3 years for F-16s


Maybe Greece will have 24 F-35s between 2025 and 2028
but Greece until receives 24 F35s , Turkey will have developed its own TFX Fighter Jet , MIUS turbofan engine powered stealth UCAV , TF-2000 class Air warfare Destroyer , HISAR and SIPER medium/long range Air Defense Systems also more S400 Air Defense Systems will be in service


btw Greek F-35s will not find its Air Bases , when Greek F-35s comeback for landing
because of Turkish Armed Forces J600T , ATACMS , BORA , SOM , ATMACA , GEZGIN , KARGI , KGK-LR , HARM , AKBABA , SLAM-ER and RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile to destroy all Air Bases and Air Defense Systems in Greece and Greek Islands in a few hours




Greece was never bailed out ..... Greece remains a debtor's prison and the evidence is everywhere to be found that Greece is slowly dying under its EU induced euthanasia

and Greece to remain a European slave Colony until 2060 ... still Greece is dreaming about fighting with regional super power Turkey

-- Turkey has bigger GDP PPP than Greece+Israel+Egypt combined
-- Turkey has more military projects than Greece+Israel+Egypt combined

Greeks should pray for ERDOGAN that He spent over $60 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim countries between 2012 and 2019 , instead of producing tens of thousands of Ballistic and Cruise Missiles to turn not only Greece , but also whole region into stone age

The copy paste Turk is at it again

 

[Kingslayerr]

It's so amazingly funny how india managed to buy 36 rafales for 8billion

 

[Wa Muhammada]

Good news.

Boot polisher

 

[MMM-E]

The copy paste Turk is at it again

Not copy paste ...... all of infos by me

I remind you on my Youtube video in 2014 ... in 2014 I told to you Turkey will develop even better UCAV than Israeli UCAVs in the next 5 years

and You said me keep dreaming , Turkey can not develop UCAV

RESULT : as of 2019 Turkey develops AKINCI UCAV which will be equipped with AESA Radar , SATCOM , artificial intelligence , SOM Cruise Missille and GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missiles for strategic strike capability

Evangelist-Zionist American senate blocked sale of UCAV to Turkey
but Turkey was became one of 4 countries in the world with the US , Israel and China in UCAV technology
( even Europe, Russia , India , Japan are dreaming about this UCAV technology )


its time to develop the TF-X air superiority Fighter Jet including TRMOTOR turbofan engine


so Israel and Greece have no clue about what Turkey develops in the next 5 years

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

3 billion $ is very very good deal for 24 F35s.

 

[CAN_TR]

Some more news about this, following a statement from the Greek Defense Minister.

Greece to acquire 24 F-35 at a cost of $3billion, Defense Minister reveals

Defense Minister, Nikos Panagiotopoulos, revealed Greece’s armament plans following the official visit of Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis to the White House. Greece plans to acquire 24 F-35 aircraft at a total cost of 3 billion USD including the infrastructure, proceed with the upgrade of 82 F-16 and possible purchase war ships and war material,Panagiotopoulos revealed. He added that there will be negotiations between the US Pentagon and the Greek side about the acquisition of war ships.

Speaking to Skai TV on Thursday morning, the Greek Defense Minister said that the F-35 issue was raised by Greece in an effort to achieve “air superiority over Turkey” in the coming years.

The acquisition of F-35 will follow the upgrade of fighter jets F-16 Viper, he clarified.
Referring to negotiations as a time-consuming procedure, he estimated that the acquisition of F-35 would begin after 2024.

The upgrade of 82-84 F-16 into the Viper version is to “start in these days” and is expected to last some 7 to 8 years.

“Someday Greece will also go to the 5th generation aircraft that has unique characteristics, the so-called stealth that is not detected by hostile radars but also has some formidable capabilities in terms of its electronic and weapon systems. Greece will, anyway, like the other countries, go to this 5th generation aircraft. The way we insist on doing this is firstly to upgrade the F-16 fleet to something between the 4th and 5th generations,” Panagiotopoulos said.

“When we are finished we will have upgraded the bulk of our planes, 82 to 84 F-16s, to the most up-to-date type for this type of aircraft, and have begun the process of acquiring the F-35s,” he said.

He underlined that “at the same time, we will have complemented the Mirage fleet because of their special features and the special weapons they carry, which is a type of necessity.”

The Defense Minister seemed certain that Turkey will not manage to acquire F-35 and that the Greek Air Force fleet will be superior to the one of the neighboring country.

On the possibility of acquiring ships and other war material, Minister Panagiotopoulos said that there are proposals to be discussed between the US Pentagon and the Greek side, and that these will be examined in detail by each sector in the coming period.

“There are two ways to obtain war material, either through the direct sales process and/or through the surplus of the US defense material,” Panagiotopoulos said.

PS No wonder that President Trump will never urge his friend Erdogan to refrain from creating tension in the East Mediterranean Sea. “Tension” mean nothing else than “boosting arms sales.”

Source:. https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2020/01/09/f35-greece-us-acquisition-mitsotakis/

But do you really think Greece can bear the costs for modernization of Navy (incl. purchase of new ships and 2 additional submarines), F-16 modernization as far as Greek articles are correct Mirage-2000 too, and finally F-35?

Don‘t know much about the Land Forces.

 

[Dante80]

But do you really think Greece can bear the costs for modernization of Navy (incl. purchase of new ships and 2 additional submarines), F-16 modernization as far as Greek articles are correct Mirage-2000 too, and finally F-35?

Don‘t know much about the Land Forces.

I don't think there is a plan for additional submarines at this juncture. The main HN programs - funded or already running - as I understand the news so far are:

1. P-3B Orion MPA upgrade/modernization
2. Meko 200HN MLU
3. Modern torps program. The latest we heard on that was about the F21 nuking the competition.
4. New frigate program (2+2). The FTI seems to be the main candidate at this time.

For HAF, the F-16 program is running, there are negotiations about M2000-5 MLU/support and F-35 is supposed to be brought forward around the 2024 timeframe.

With regards to cost, this is mostly par for the course for Greece, if you have been following military procurement historically in the country. The 10 year economic crisis we had surely did skew both acquisition programs and rates of adoption/modernization.

And it also seems to have skewed outside beholder expectations about the Greek Armed Forces in general.