Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Yousef Alhelou, a Palestinian political analyst, sees the move as an act to normalise relations further between the two countries, whose diplomatic relationship has been strengtened with the normalisation deal to almost a level of an alliance.

It's not an alliance. Israel has expanded into UAE becoming more ideologically extremist, and more brazen in killing and persecuting Palestinians.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Don't talk out of context. Israel regularly attacks women and children. Destroys homes. Steals land. Stops water and electricity. Dehumanizes Palestinians. Yet, most of the Arab world unconditionally recognized Israel. Terrible mistake.

I don't think there are any settlements in Gaza since 2005 or any Israeli in Gaza. Gaza has a border with Egypt as well, they could supply Gaza with electricity, water, food etc in fact it's stupid to expect your mortal enemy to provide you with stuff. Also Hamas has no food, water, electricity but they have plenty of rockets and Kalashnikovs, strange, isn't it? Their leaders lead lavish lives in Qatar and Dubai and ordinary people have to suffer and die. When you fire rockets at Israel that too on civilians what do you expect in return?

I think this is exactly what Egypt is proposing lets see if anyone listen to Egyptians.

If both sides don't accept this, it means they just want to kill and die. Now there is so much hate and distrust on both sides that they won't be able to give concessions or talk among themselves positively. The Arab world will have to intervene, give Israel the guarantee of peace and security and of freedom to Palestinians and for that entities like Hamas and Islamic Jihad have to be disbanded. They should take administration (Defence, Finance, Communication) upon themselves and with all the $$ they have they can make Gaza in to Dubai or Singapore.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I don't think there are any settlements in Gaza since 2005 or any Israeli in Gaza. Gaza has a border with Egypt as well, they could supply Gaza with electricity, water, food etc in fact it's stupid to expect your mortal enemy to provide you with stuff. Also Hamas has no food, water, electricity but they have plenty of rockets and Kalashnikovs, strange, isn't it? Their leaders lead lavish lives in Qatar and Dubai and ordinary people have to suffer and die. When you fire rockets at Israel that too on civilians what do you expect in return?



If both sides don't accept this, it means they just want to kill and die. Now there is so much hate and distrust on both sides that they won't be able to give concessions or talk among themselves positively. The Arab world will have to intervene, give Israel the guarantee of peace and security and of freedom to Palestinians and for that entities like Hamas and Islamic Jihad have to be disbanded. They should take administration (Defence, Finance, Communication) upon themselves and with all the $$ they have they can make Gaza in to Dubai or Singapore.

Would you live in Gaza before Oct 7?

 

[mulj]

I don't think there are any settlements in Gaza since 2005 or any Israeli in Gaza. Gaza has a border with Egypt as well, they could supply Gaza with electricity, water, food etc in fact it's stupid to expect your mortal enemy to provide you with stuff. Also Hamas has no food, water, electricity but they have plenty of rockets and Kalashnikovs, strange, isn't it? Their leaders lead lavish lives in Qatar and Dubai and ordinary people have to suffer and die. When you fire rockets at Israel that too on civilians what do you expect in return?



If both sides don't accept this, it means they just want to kill and die. Now there is so much hate and distrust on both sides that they won't be able to give concessions or talk among themselves positively. The Arab world will have to intervene, give Israel the guarantee of peace and security and of freedom to Palestinians and for that entities like Hamas and Islamic Jihad have to be disbanded. They should take administration (Defence, Finance, Communication) upon themselves and with all the $$ they have they can make Gaza in to Dubai or Singapore.

those are statements debunked million times, zionists does not want any palestinian state with sustainability and self governing, your premises are false points repeated by western MSM and politicians all for purpose of white washing jews nazi project in occupied Palestine.
in order to do that what you are proposing necessity is founding of two equal states with clear borders recognized by international community but cynical and multi facet western policy prevents that,

 

[Fireurimagination]

Would you live in Gaza before Oct 7?

No but I wouldn't have voted for Hamas either or have 10 babies for martyrdom or teach kids in school Jihad and hate for Jews. FYI with all the population density and death and so-called nightmarish life Palestinians still have better life expectancy that India and Pakistan.

those are statements debunked million times, zionists does not want any palestinian state with sustainability and self governing, your premises are false points repeated by western MSM and politicians all for purpose of white washing jews nazi project in occupied Palestine.
in order to do that what you are proposing necessity is founding of two equal states with clear borders recognized by international community but cynical and multi facet western policy prevents that,

Who do you think would want peace more?

 

[mulj]

No but I wouldn't have voted for Hamas either or have 10 babies for martyrdom or teach kids in school Jihad and hate for Jews. FYI with all the population density and death and so-called nightmarish life Palestinians still have better life expectancy that India and Pakistan.

Who do you think would want peace more?

jews theach same to kill arabs, stop rambling stupidities and make false equations between occupier and resisting population, like jews are some belevolent entity and not etno religious etno supremacist project.

 

[Fireurimagination]

jews theach same to kill arabs, stop rambling stupidities and make false equations between occupier and resisting population, like jews are some belevolent entity and not etno religious etno supremacist project.

Well please provide a video or link to a news article where it shows schools in Israel teach their kids to kill muslims, until then you are the one who is rambling crap, there are plenty vids on YT about the other side priorities. In fact if that would have been the case Jews wouldn't have been so successful in science and business alike.

 

[mulj]

Well please provide a video or link to a news article where it shows schools in Israel teach their kids to kill muslims, until then you are the one who is rambling crap, there are plenty vids on YT about the other side priorities. In fact if that would have been the case Jews wouldn't have been so successful in science and business alike.

there is plenty here below is only one, will you now stop babling about peace loving jews and go do your research .

“I picture a dead Arab”: In disturbing video, Israeli children’s words echo indoctrination

Asked what he imagined when he was sitting in a tank, one boy answers, "I picture a dead Arab."

electronicintifada.net

 

[mulj]

jews killed their own settler who killed attackers in Jerusalem two days ago, bizarre incident.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730524812211102121

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

No but I wouldn't have voted for Hamas either or have 10 babies for martyrdom or teach kids in school Jihad and hate for Jews. FYI with all the population density and death and so-called nightmarish life Palestinians still have better life expectancy that India and Pakistan.

Who do you think would want peace more?

Your arguments are not valid, based on ignorance and prejudice.

Hamas didn't harm the Israeli hostages, Israel bashed in the skull and broke bones of Palestinian boy hostages with metal pipe, proving who is more inhumane. Israel's strategy is to provoke, humiliate, accuse, dehumanize and kill Palestinians since the inception of Zionism. It's a mass cruel regime which violates international law, practices crime against humanity and war crimes. Check reports of any western human rights organization, without exception they say the same thing. Many videos and links have been posted to prove it.

Palestinians are civilized, traditional, humane people, whom Zionists have dehumanized over a century. They are among the first Christians. Palestinian Muslims and Christians stand together 100%.

 

[Musings]

This is Abigail Edan , she is 4 years old and was released yeaterday.

Both her parents where murdered on the 7 of October massacre. And she was kidnapped and taken alone and held hostage to Gaza.

In a couple of days she would have to be told , that she will never see her parents again.

Tell me what sort of people take a 4 year old child hostage alone , without her parents to look after her ?

I do not deny Palestinain suffering .

Any decent person would be bothered from what we see in Gaza. Unlike all here ,that for them Gaza is some far away place they see on the news ,I actually live here , only a few hours drive away. So don't deny ours.

There was notheing decent or justifiable about taking such children hostage .

Simply a line you do not cross,

Girl, 4, whose parents were killed by Hamas becomes first freed US hostage

FOUR-year-old Abigail Edan has been released from captivity by Hamas, becoming the first American hostage to return to family amid the temporary truce with Israel. Abigail’s release comes nea…

www.thesun.co.uk

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A 4 year old is a 4 year old - be it Jewish Muslim or Hindu. To you and your sect - its not. According to your beliefs - you are the chosen ones.
Scums like you wont even allow it to register the fact that you have killed perhaps a dozen Palestinian kids today. Just because we dont have pictures to saturate populist media support - doesn't mean any less.

You steal their land their dignity their honor - carpet bomb civilians. Commit war crimes and set up an apartheid state - and then cant understand why they have a resistance to this? Are you really this stupid? Netanyahu doesn't want a 2 state solution and soon will have to answer to war crimes being committed and you still want to put flower pictures of a girl that Netanyahu has encouraged to become part of a conflict?
You and your clan really are the lowest form of human....

 

[Musings]

I thought we where debating the evidence of tunnels under the Shifa hospital.

The tunnels that Israeli built in the 1980s? We have been through this about 200 pages ago but are you a goldfish that you forget - and 2 weeks later you regurgitate the same diarrhea again?

It’s also well known that there are, in fact, tunnels and rooms under Al-Shifa. We know that because Israel admits that it built them in the early 1980s. According to Israeli media reports, the underground facilities were designed by Tel Aviv architects Gershon Zippor and Benjamin Idelson. “Israel renovated and expanded the hospital complex with American assistance, in a project that also included the excavation of an underground concrete floor,” according to Zvi Elhyani, founder of the Israel Architecture Archive, writing in Israel’s Ynetnews.

The underground infrastructure was part of a modernization and expansion effort at Al-Shifa commissioned by Israel’s Public Works Department. “The Israeli civil administration in the territories constructed the hospital complex’s Building Number 2, which has a large cement basement that housed the hospital’s laundry and various administrative services,” according to a report in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. The room and tunnels under Al-Shifa were reportedly completed in 1983. Tablet magazine described the space as “a secure underground operating room and tunnel network.” Zippor’s son Barak, who began working at his father’s architecture firm in the 1990s, said that during the construction at Al-Shifa in the 1980s, the Israeli construction contractors hired Hamas to provide security guards to prevent attacks on the building site.

“You know, decades ago we were running the place, so we helped them — it was decades, many decades ago, probably four decades ago that we helped them to build these bunkers in order to enable more space for the operation of the hospital within the very limited size of this compound,” former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak told a visibly stunned CNN host Christiane Amanpour.

Now stop talking your standard shit - it wont wash on here.....

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

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[Musings]

You see things as per your/Palestine's perspective, the other side has its own. Be it Israel or Hamas nobody absolutely nobody has a right to kill innocent civilians. The fact that you or others in the Muslim world won't denounce Hamas for killing innocents and taking women and children as hostage speaks volume. Firstly, the Palestinians/muslim world should come to terms with Israels's right to exist. As they see it, for Israel it is fight for survival and they will probably rather kill than get killed. After Israel withdrew from Gaza on 2005 did peace prevail?



Well attacking and killing civilians, taking women and children hostages won't help achieve the above, will it?

An indian thinking it all started on 7/10.

Why not think whats happened over the last 70 years for this course of horrific action that we all condone?

When you rape murder and pilfer their land - when you commit genocide - set up an apartheid state - defy all international law - it results in desperation and eventually something breaks. You cant continue to treat Gaza as a concentration camp and not expect conswequences. Im not saying its justified but its understandable.
Now do us all a favor my little dark brown Indian - stop trying to lick Jewish white man boots and look at the topic objectively - if you cant then remain quiet.......

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

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