Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[lightning F57]

it would make sense, what you said if the ummah was united.. I mean, forget that, arab league, UN, even "only musalman nuke power" .. where are they ? mostly mute spectators to this, aren't they ?

who will destroy them ?

you gotta get past Uncle Sam to get to them, good luck.

Tyranny can't last forever, change can come from within or from the outside. Palestinians not being given a viable state where they are free is a receipe for disaster and further conflict.

 

[-=virus=-]

Tyranny can't last forever, change can come from within or from the outside. Palestinians not being given a viable state where they are free is a receipe for disaster and further conflict.

The only hope is a super benevolent Israeli state that makes some sacrifices to accommodate the native Palestinians.

Not looking very likely to happen as of now.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

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This is silly. Even if their goods are boycotted and cause them financial losses, they have the entire western world to bankroll them.

 

[CrazyZ]

I understand well where you're coming from, a place of emotion.

but srsly, bro

mujhay to ek hi party ki "complete destruction" nazar aa ri hai, and it ain't the Yahoodi settler state.

it would make sense, what you said if the ummah was united.. I mean, forget that, arab league, UN, even "only musalman nuke power" .. where are they ? mostly mute spectators to this, aren't they ?

who will destroy them ?

you gotta get past Uncle Sam to get to them, good luck.

No emotions at play here. The most logical outcome of this conflict looking over the next 50 to 100 years is either Israel agrees to a real Palestinian state or it will eventually be destroyed. Even American strategists are saying this. That's why they will be leaning on Israel for a two state solution. America will not get involved on the ground......American people have no desire.

 

[Eslam]

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G_d is greater

 

[F-22Raptor]

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[F-22Raptor]

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[khansaheeb]

Thousands march against antisemitism in London

Organisers say the event is the first of its kind since the Israel-Gaza war broke out.

www.bbc.com

Thousands march against antisemitism in London​

26th November 2023, 10:38 PST
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By Anisa Kadri, in central London & Nathan WilliamsBBC News

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Watch: Thousands attend march against antisemitism in London
Tens of thousands of people have marched through central London at a demonstration against antisemitism.

Organisers estimated 100,000 took part in the first march of its kind since the Israel-Gaza war began, including former Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

The rally comes amid a steep rise in hate crime, especially against the capital's Jewish community.

English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson - who was asked not to attend by organisers - was arrested by police.


There had been concern that he might disrupt the demonstration.

The Met Police later said in total two people had been arrested. As well as Mr Robinson, 40, who was detained at the start of the march, police arrested a man for making antisemitic comments when crowds were leaving Whitehall.

The large crowd gathered outside the Royal Courts of Justice and made its way along Whitehall to Parliament Square, where a rally was held.

Placards bearing slogans like "Shoulder to shoulder with British Jews" and "Never again is now" were seen being carried by those taking part.

Chief Rabbi Sir Ephraim Mirvis told the crowd at Parliament Square British Jews "will not be intimidated" by antisemitism.


He said: "We call for a strengthening of community cohesion and we will forever be proud to champion the finest of British values."

The Campaign Against Antisemitism estimate Sunday's march to be the largest gathering of its kind since the Battle of Cable Street in 1936, when British Union of Fascists supporters were stopped from marching through east London, an area with a high Jewish population at the time.

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Tracey-Ann Oberman, Eddie Marsan, Rachel Riley and Maureen Lipman were seen at the march

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Tommy Robinson was led away by police officers - organisers had made clear he was not welcome

Several recognisable faces were spotted in the crowd, including TV personalities Vanessa Feltz and Robert Rinder, and actors Tracy-Ann Oberman, Elliot Levey and Maureen Lipman.

Countdown host Rachel Riley told the crowd: "We've learned from history the sharp price to be paid when good people stay silent and I'm grateful to each and every one of you here today for refusing to be bystanders."

Actor Eddie Marsan gave a speech urging "moderate people in this country to stand up and face down extremism and bigotry and antisemitism and Islamophobia and all forms of racism".

Comedian David Baddiel, who attended the march, described the day as "emotional, bonding, well-attended and shambolic".

He joked: "No-one had any idea where we were going or who was speaking. It was indicative, as ever, of how Jews really don't run the world."


As well as Boris Johnson, security minister Tom Tugenhadt, immigration minister Robert Jenrick and Labour's shadow science minister Peter Kyle were among political figures in attendance.

Crimes against Jewish people motivated by racism have increased dramatically since the outbreak of the Israel-Gaza conflict.

There were 554 reports of antisemitic offences in London between 1 October and 1 November in London, compared with 44 in the same period last year.

Islamophobic hate crime is also on the rise, with 220 offences in the same period, compared to 78 last year.

Sunday's rally against antisemitism comes after the latest large pro-Palestinian demonstration to be held in London since renewed fighting broke out in the Middle East.


The Met Police said 18 people had been arrested "during a significant policing operation" that was put in place around the pro-Palestinian march on Saturday, though the "overwhelming majority" protested lawfully, a statement said.

The force has come under pressure over its policing of pro-Palestinian demonstrations, and has pledged to crack down on placards and chanting which are judged to constitute a hate crime.

 

[Sineva]

The voice of ignorance......and sadly proud of it too.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1728756585147576817

Sadly there are a lot of westerners like this woman

 

[Sineva]

I don't see them going to war with the U.S. Do you see it?

Its the POLITICAL PRICE,war has nothing to do with this,this is the HEARTS AND MINDS part,the SOFT POWER part of being a great power and it matters a hell of a lot,because without it all you`re really left with are threats and military force,and that tends to come with lots of potentially unpleasant consequences in todays world,even for the us.

 

[Eslam]

The voice of ignorance......and sadly proud of it too.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1728756585147576817

This little jewss Israel rodent seems to be suffering Genitourinary Syndrome of Menopause (GSM Syndrom) genitalia get it mounts with real men with the Izz adine al-qassam Brigades, the little jewess will be folded like a washcloth to be unraveled.

 

[Darius77]

The problem with hypocritical western police states is that the Zionist crimes against unarmed Palestinians and the holocaust of Gaza has made too many enemies now to repress. A whole new generation of Arabs, Muslims and western supporters of Palestine has now been awakened. The Zionist child killing cowards dug their own grave by killing babies, women and children. It is impossible to silence billions of people around the world now. Zionist military incompetence and cowardice exposed their weakness too.

'Israel' lost control, on the way to losing its war on Gaza: Report​

• ByAl Mayadeen English
• Source: The Sunday Times
• 26 Nov 2023 23:18

A report by The Sunday Times reveals that the Israeli occupation is now being skillfully leveraged by the Resistance in the captives issue.

'Israel' lost control, on the way to losing its war on Gaza: Report

A report by The Sunday Times reveals that the Israeli occupation is now being skillfully leveraged by the Resistance in the captives issue.

english.almayadeen.net

Hamas announces the release of a Russian citizen held hostage since October 7.

Hamas said it released the hostage at the request of Russian President Vladimir Putin in appreciation of his position on the Palestinian issue.

 

[-=virus=-]

No emotions at play here. The most logical outcome of this conflict looking over the next 50 to 100 years is either Israel agrees to a real Palestinian state or it will eventually be destroyed. Even American strategists are saying this. That's why they will be leaning on Israel for a two state solution. America will not get involved on the ground......American people have no desire.

and just who exactly is going to do the destroying ?

 

[Meengla]

Agreed. Gaza crisis is forging a collective Muslim identity that I have never seen before. That should be used to build more regional interconnections. Pakistan should push this at the OIC.
The war plan I mentioned would not be just the Egyptians alone. The convention offensive would be a MENA coalition of the willing. Egypt, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Jordon......etc. Pakistan should send forces as well.
I'm confident the war plan would work but what's the USA/western response to this? Cutting aid, sanctions most likely. In theory MENA has a population and resource level large enough to shrug off western sanctions like Russia has done. Problem is Russia is one state while MENA is fractured.

I absolutely believe that a very strong 'message' had been conveyed to Americans after the Extraordinary OIC Summit as well as through various other diplomatic channels. It is not as hopeless for Palestinians as people here often say. Many pages ago I had said that the chances for the Palestinians are higher than they were for the Afghan Taliban prior to the summer of 2021. The forces aligned for the Palestinians were/are far stronger than they were for the Afghan Taliban in their 20-year struggle against NATO.

As for a collective response, it is my understanding that powerful Muslim nations like Turkey (and probably others) said during the Extraordinary OIC Summit that the GCC Arabs have to take the lead before others could put their necks out. And I believe the GCC Arabs have been more forceful--there have been other meetings after the OIC Summit including visits multi-nations delegations to Moscow and Beijing as well as bilateral meetings between Iran and Turkey. Americans are well aware of the strategic losses facing America in the Middle East and beyond. Why do you think Biden is so $ss kissing to Beijing lately?? American diplomatic options AND American strategic options are sharply curtailed by the parasitic Israeli Lobby--remember that about 400 US Govt. officials wrote a strong letter just a few days ago (albeit mostly anonymously) protesting against the American policy in this conflict. Any blue-blooded American on this forum supporting the American policy is either naive or stupid in supporting the hitherto so stupid pro Israel policy.

fighting for their lives after 400 military deaths against Hamas with RPGs locked in tiny open air prison with no food or water ?
don't know what's more embarrassing, making that claim or believing it

Correct. Imagine Israel is already fighting 'for its existence'!!! Against a militia operating from an Open Air Prison and mere skirmishes against Hezbollah. Pakistan had 70,000 civilians/military citizens killed between mid 2000s and mid 2015s, with an already poor economy destroyed, had a big power like India to its east and NATO sitting and threatening on the west but I never heard Pakistanis worried about their very 'existence'!

 

[Eslam]

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