Frontier shoot-out issue to dominate India-B'desh talks

[Lankan Ranger]

Frontier shoot-out issue to dominate India-B'desh talks

The border shoot-outs will dominate Bangladesh-India talks as the top Home Ministry officials from the two countries are set to meet here for a two-day session this week, reports said here today.

"There will be many issues on the table, but our main focus will be the non-stop killing of Bangladeshi citizens around the borders," Home Secretary Abdus Sobhan Sikder was quoted as saying by the Daily Star newspaper.

The paper quoted another senior Home Ministry official as saying that Dhaka would register a strong protest against the "killing of innocent Bangladeshi civilians" on the border as the two-day talks would start with the meeting of a joint working group tomorrow.

Paramilitary Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) chief Major Gen Rafiqul Islam last week said the frontier force decided to refer the matter of the "trigger happiness" of India's Border Security Force to the Home Ministry with requests to take up the issue with the higher authorities in India.

"I am simply disappointed... as our (BDR) efforts to convince our counterparts to stop the killing visibly failed," he said.

Leading rights group 'Odhikar' earlier this month released a report claiming that 74 Bangladeshis were killed and 72 others injured on the frontiers in the past one year.

"Fifty of the dead were killed in shootout and 24 others were brutally tortured to death by BSF troops" along some 4,000-kilometers porous borders, it claimed but according to newspaper reports at least three more Bangladeshis were killed in the past 10 days since Odhikar published the report.

The BDR Director General said the issue dominated his past two talks with his counterpart in BSF while "every time they assured us of looking into the matter as we asked them to follow the rules of engagement and arrest and return the trespassers instead of shooting them dead".

Officials, earlier said, the matter was also discussed during Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's talks with her counterpart Manmohan Singh in January last year in New Delhi while she again raised the issue with the Indian premier on the sidelines of the SAARC summit in Thumphu later.

Hundreds of frontier villagers last week staged protests at northwestern Kurigram frontier after BSF men allegedly shot 15-year-old girl Falani as she was trying to return home from India, where she was engaged in a job.

Police and reports said Falani was shot in her right shoulder and died instantly as her clothes got entangled in the barbed wire fencing on the borders.

Home Minister Sahara Khatun yesterday said that Bangladesh would raise the killing of Felani in the Secretary-level talks.

Frontier shoot-out issue to dominate India-B'desh talks

 

[Paan Singh]

bangladesh and india must ensure illegal trafficking of ppl from one country to another.this is the real cause.
unfortunately after fencing,it hasnt stopped yet

 

[eastwatch]

bangladesh and india must ensure illegal trafficking of ppl from one country to another.this is the real cause.
unfortunately after fencing,it hasnt stopped yet

Why are you bending the border killing issue with infiltration issue. No one would like any infiltration through border, even if it is to see his uncle. Since border cannot be sealed, therefore, it should be made safe because any human life is too precious and not to be wasted by BSF bullets. A mechanism must be found whereas BSF and BGB arrest the culprits and exchange them time to time.

 

[silentinksoldier]

thing is..BD must acknowledge illegal migration..and take steps to stop it

 

[fallstuff]

thing is..BD must acknowledge illegal migration..and take steps to stop it

There is none to acknowledge. Now if India was like US, that would be whole different ballgame. Come one dude, get real.

 

[silentinksoldier]

There is none to acknowledge. Now if India was like US, that would be whole different ballgame. Come one dude, get real.

aah yes.....if there was no illegal border crossing....the girl wasnt present on the fence...and since she wasnt there...she wasnt killed....

get real..man..

 

[LaBong]

no probs man.....if there is no problem of border crossing..there is no killing rite??? i mean..it isnt that bsf comes into your country at night and steals your shorshe bata eleesh...and kills a few of your men just for fun..and leaves rite???

BSF does that, according to our esteemed BD member here. No kidding.

 

[integra]

The girl died and all this internet warriors are here trying to justify there own shittty dilemma. If you support border killings than we should also support full scale firing from the BDR. We don't kill any illegal trespassers but we push'em back at flag meetings.
There are non-lethal and civilized procedures for illegal trespassers. Once I went to see what actually happens in the border area. Well cow traders and smugglers of indian goods carry out their operations under daylight but who dies in the end, none of them.

 

[silentinksoldier]

The girl died and all this internet warriors are here trying to justify there own shittty dilemma. If you support border killings than we should also support full scale firing from the BDR. We don't kill any illegal trespassers but we push'em back at flag meetings.
There are non-lethal and civilized procedures for illegal trespassers. Once I went to see what actually happens in the border area. Well cow traders and smugglers of indian goods carry out their operations under daylight but who dies in the end, none of them.

not our problem man.....we kill anyone who tries to cross the broder..for your info we have killed more indian smugglers than bd immigrants...

about you going to see what happens in the borders.....i doubt u saw people getting killed before your eyes....my village is ON the border.....a place in tripura called belonia....so i am pretty familiar with the realities.

thing is....if you dont even acknowledge illegal border crossing and migration by your people...then technically those people we kill dont exist....

the girl tried to cross the border..the moment they cross the border without our permission, they cease to be bangladeshi citizens...
its simple..you stop them or we STOP them...

 

[integra]

not our problem man.....we kill anyone who tries to cross the broder..for your info we have killed more indian smugglers than bd immigrants...

about you going to see what happens in the borders.....i doubt u saw people getting killed before your eyes....my village is ON the border.....a place in tripura called belonia....so i am pretty familiar with the realities.

thing is....if you dont even acknowledge illegal border crossing and migration by your people...then technically those people we kill dont exist....

the girl tried to cross the border..the moment they cross the border without our permission, they cease to be bangladeshi citizens...
its simple..you stop them or we STOP them...

Well then why hav you joined Defense.pk silenStinksoldier? You should hav joined the BSF. Your mentality and theirs are truly one of a kind and they synch perfectly. Now go join your BSF(border shhitty farts), 'cos they stink so much that when any citizens cross the border they just encounter cardiac arrest.

 

[silentinksoldier]

Well then why hav you joined Defense.pk silenStinksoldier? You should hav joined the BSF. Your mentality and theirs are truly one of a kind and they synch perfectly. Now go join your BSF(border shhitty farts), 'cos they stink so much that when any citizens cross the border they just encounter cardiac arrest.

how charming......

 

[wild_fire1979]

Well then why hav you joined Defense.pk silenStinksoldier? You should hav joined the BSF. Your mentality and theirs are truly one of a kind and they synch perfectly. Now go join your BSF(border shhitty farts), 'cos they stink so much that when any citizens cross the border they just encounter cardiac arrest.

Not much of an intellect are you? And whatsoever happened to this forums policy of no personal attacks?

 

[eastwatch]

New Age | Newspaper

BSF to use rubber bullets in border, says Delhi
Indo-Bangla home secy-level talks begin today
Mustafizur Rahman

Delhi agreed with Dhaka to take steps to prevent casualties on the frontier at the two-day bilateral talks led by the joint secretaries of the two countries’ home affairs ministries’ on Tuesday, said officials.

The 11-member Bangladeshi team, led by joint secretary (political) Kamal Uddin Ahmed, protested strongly against the killing of innocent Bangladeshi citizens by the Indian Border Security Force, and again put forward a proposal for the use of non-lethal weapons along the borders to stop the killing of unarmed civilians, said officials.

Indian joint secretary Shambhu Singh is leading a 10-member delegation to the 10th joint working group meeting, scheduled to be concluded by 11:30am today (Wednesday).

‘We are trying to find out ways to resolve the issues of border security, border management and also immigration,’ Kamal Uddin told New Age.

The joint working group will finalise some proposals for placing them in the two-day home affairs secretary-level talks beginning today, he added.

The meeting of the joint working group discussed the issues of border security, border management, immigration and enhancement of cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of the two countries, said an official.

He said that Bangladesh protested against the recent killings on the borders by the BSF, particularly the killing of a Bangladeshi teenage girl who was going home, and sought an explanation from the Indian side.

The BSF on January 7 shot dead Felani, 15, after she became entangled in the barbed-wire fence on the Kurigram border. She was returning with her father Nurul Islam Nuru, a resident of south Ramkhana at Nageswari in Kurigram. They were coming back from Delhi, where they worked, after her marriage with a boy in Bangladesh was arranged.

The Indian side had agreed on taking initiatives to stop such killings and the use of non-lethal weapons like rubber bullets to guard the borders, said a senior official, adding that the joint working group meeting had decided to include Bangladesh’s protest against the frontier killings by the BSF in the joint declaration.

The home secretary-level talks will also focus on frontier killings, border disputes, smuggling of narcotics and capacity building for both countries’ law enforcers to maintain border security more effectively, according to officials.

Home affairs secretary Abdus Sobhan Sikdar will lead a 19-member team while his Indian counterpart, GK Pillai, will lead a 13-member delegation to the 11th home secretary-level meeting.

Over the years the BSF has killed one Bangladeshi every four days, according to human rights organisation Odhikar, which has claimed that 74 Bangladeshis were killed, 72 injured and 43 abducted in 2010.

Bangladesh had earlier proposed to India that non-lethal weapons should be used by border guards to ensure that no unarmed civilians on the borders would be killed, but the Indian authorities have yet to make any official response.

 

[integra]

Not much of an intellect are you? And whatsoever happened to this forums policy of no personal attacks?

nah why shud I be an intellet, I hate them actually.
All talks and no bs ,humor etc. .

Anyways I would be glad if the Indian authorities follow the above
news which I doubt they will.

 

[idune]

What kind of govt will ask a foreign country to use rubber bullet against its own citizen?? But this is what Awami stooge regime requested india to do against Bangladeshis. Please read

"On the first day of the two-day talks, Dhaka reiterated its earlier proposal that BSF men use rubber bullets instead of lethal weapons to save lives of people who cross the border. Delhi is yet to respond to this."

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