Fractures in Arab Gulf alliance

[Belew_Kelew]

Nope, being LGBT is practically illegal in Egypt. Marriage by law in Egypt can only be between men and women under the sstewardship/umbrella of the Mosque/Alazhar, Coptic Church, and the Orthodox Christian Church. Relationships of a sexual nature involving LGBT can result in hefty sentences under morality/vice laws, although homosexuality and bisexuality are not
explicitly stated to be illegal, they are still treated as such if found out.

LGBT rights in Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am not saying it's legal, but it slowly getting pass the crack.

Egypt’s First ‘Gay Wedding?’ | Egyptian Streets

The first gay marriage in Egypt - زواج لواط في مصر

The first gay marriage in Egypt - زواج لواط في مصر - YouTube

 

[Dubious]

Where is the Arab Gulf ?

I can't find it on the map

Just like many cant find schengen area

 

[Frogman]

I am not saying it's legal, but it slowly getting pass the crack.

Egypt’s First ‘Gay Wedding?’ | Egyptian Streets

The first gay marriage in Egypt - زواج لواط في مصر

The first gay marriage in Egypt - زواج لواط في مصر - YouTube

More power to them I say. However, the issue of LGBT rights and its acceptance is not at all present in Egypt and I don't think Egyptian society is in any way ready to accept LGBT people.

You did say it was legal.

Egypt prosecutor orders 7 held for homosexuality - CBS 5 - KPHO

now in egypt for the first time gay marriages is allowed legally

AlAazhar? Can't you just do it at a local mosque? Isn't Azhar a scholarly school?

Yep, that's why I wrote Mosque. Alazhar is primarily a scholarly school, however, it is embedded in Egypt society and government through its mosques, charitable works, and its ministerial position.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

More power to them I say. However, the issue of LGBT rights and its acceptance is not at all present in Egypt and I don't think Egyptian society is in any way ready to accept LGBT people.

You did say it was legal.

Egypt prosecutor orders 7 held for homosexuality - CBS 5 - KPHO





Yep, that's why I wrote Mosque. Alazhar is primarily a scholarly school, however, it is embedded in Egypt society and government through its mosques, charitable works, and its ministerial position.

Yes you are right i did say it was legal but i meant "legal" as accepted. My bad of using the wrong word.
This wasn't my topic anyway it was a response to my earlier post in regards to foreign Gulf interference into egypt.

 

[Mosamania]

More power to them I say. However, the issue of LGBT rights and its acceptance is not at all present in Egypt and I don't think Egyptian society is in any way ready to accept LGBT people.

You did say it was legal.

Egypt prosecutor orders 7 held for homosexuality - CBS 5 - KPHO





Yep, that's why I wrote Mosque. Alazhar is primarily a scholarly school, however, it is embedded in Egypt society and government through its mosques, charitable works, and its ministerial position.

Good job Egypt, all humans deserve their due rights, I just can't understand how people are offended by what other people are doing with their own bodies and lives.

Nothing disgusts me more than people trying to force their own way of life on everybody else, regardless of what that way if life be.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

Good job Egypt, all humans deserve their due rights, I just can't understand how people are offended by what other people are doing with their own bodies and lives.

Nothing disgusts me more than people trying to force their own way of life on everybody else, regardless of what that way if life be.

would you accept open gay marriages in K.S.A?

 

[Mosamania]

would you accept open gay marriages in K.S.A?

Yes why wouldn't I? Why would I seek to deprive people of their basic rights just to satisfy my own point of view., and even worse force it on other people.

A pillar of civil society is to give everyone the freedom to do what ever they wish to their person without interference from anyone or anything. Otherwise why be humans? Might as well let robots with specific and rigid programming rule the earth, they would be better than humans.

Beside the beauty of humanity is in its differences, to deprive it of that would make the world a very dark and sad and authoritarian place where all forms of creativity is stifled.

 

[Arabian Legend]

would you accept open gay marriages in K.S.A?

Of course Not.

 

[Developereo]

The article needs translation

benign dictators

The people of Bahrain found out just how benign these dictators are.

, the GCC has arguably done more than any other institution to guarantee political and economic stability over the last 35 years

Translation: the tyrants have done their part to hold down democracy and do the West's bidding, in exchange for the West's military guarantee to keep themselves in power and squander their nations' wealth.

However, the populist forces unleashed by the Arab Spring uprisings of 2010 and the rise of extremists under the banner of either the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, or the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) now threaten to tear it apart.

Translation

populist forces = democracy
popular demands to put their nations interests before the West's = terrorists and extremist

In other words, ordinary Arab peoples' desire to have representative democracy threatens the puppet dictators and their Western guarantors.

- Telegraph

Of course, the neocon media supports the tyrants against ordinary Arab people.

Quelle surprise!

 

[Falcon29]

would you accept open gay marriages in K.S.A?

Frogman and Mosa are the interesting part of the Arab world, so get used to it, lol. I've had plenty of heated arguments with them before on Palestine and now you know why.

Although lately I've been getting a lot better with Mosa.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

Yes why wouldn't I? Why would I seek to deprive people of their basic rights just to satisfy my own point of view., and even worse force it on other people.

A pillar of civil society is to give everyone the freedom to do what ever they wish to their person without interference from anyone or anything. Otherwise why be humans? Might as well let robots with specific and rigid programming rule the earth, they would be better than humans.

Beside the beauty of humanity is in its differences, to deprive it of that would make the world a very dark and sad and authoritarian place where all forms of creativity is stifled.

well you are unkingdom like.lol
I hope you haven't done a facebook page rallying your views, i think you would be in the minority in the kingdom.

Of course Not.

Well that is what i was expecting if you are from the kingdom. I guess there are many other views.

Frogman and Mosa are the interesting part of the Arab world, so get used to it, lol. I've had plenty of heated arguments with them before on Palestine and now you know why.

Although lately I've been getting a lot better with Mosa.

I am getting the interesting part now.lol
I don't mind that at long as they are consistent with their views.

 

[Al Bhatti]

Developed countries ‘envious’ of GCC economies

Bahrain and Saudi Arabia announce new causeway

 

[Al Bhatti]

Tensions between Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar were understood to have again come to head this weekend with an emergency meeting of foreign ministers in the Red Sea city of Jeddah described by the Saudi newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat as being “critical”. Riyadh and Abu Dhabi have accused authorities in Doha of supporting terror related groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood and meddling in the internal affairs of other GCC states.

The meetings could eventually lead to Qatar - the world’s biggest shipper of liquified natural gas - being ejected from the GCC. They also come at an awkward moment in the group’s history when a number of its leading ruling dynasties are in transition.
“People in the region say the GCC is effectively over as an organisation,” said Christopher Davidson, a reader in Middle East politics at Durham University. “Cracks are now appearing in the half-century old client state system in the region.”

“We’ve got the barbarians at the gates of the world’s largest oil fields and the price of crude has hardly moved, which tells me this instability has been factored in,” said Davidson.

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Muslim Brotherhood men told to leave Qatar

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14 September 2014

GCC envoys may return to their offices in Doha

Shaikh Khalid said a meeting will be held after a couple of days in Paris to form wider coalition and international mobilisation to confront the ISIS.

Ambassadors of Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and the UAE may return to their offices in Qatar at any time, said Shaikh Khalid bin Ahmad Al Khalifa, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Bahrain.

Speaking to Khaleej Times, Shaikh Khalid referred to an agreement concluded at a meeting held in Jeddah in August to solve issues between Qatar and other GCC states.

Regarding arrangements by the international coalition to fight the ISIS, Shaikh Khalid said a meeting will be held after a couple of days in Paris to form wider coalition and international mobilisation to confront the ISIS using military power, but “we have to first disband the ISIS from inside”.

“We have to solve the ISIS problem first from within our countries than outside. How do our sons join such terrorist organisations?” he wondered.In reply to Iran’s demand to join such an international coalition to fight terrorism, the minister said that any attempt made by any party to combat terrorism is good and would help the security of the region.

Asked about the current situation in Egypt, Shaikh Khalid said Egypt is moving on the right track as the present Egyptian government has determined the shortcomings and began fixing them.

He reiterated Bahrain’s solidarity with Egypt as the latter has stood by Manama during the past decades. He revealed a joint Egyptian-Bahraini coordination to handle current issues, especially the region’s stand in the face of terrorism.

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