Forum announcement regarding what happened

[Mehdipersian]

Question for everyone.. is there any other source of consolidated info like this forum on Gaza etc.. which is not subject to the constraints that this forum is now subjected to…

Iranian sites and channels(Telegram, Eitaa,x, ... ) are very good but most of them are in persian language

 

[Indos]

The political discussions here havent changed much at all from what they were in 2016 the only change has been attitude of a certain institution

Nope, before you were all pro military

When IK is ousted, you guys started attacking Military.

For me, I see IK is pretty dangerous for Pakistan as I consider him lying about thousands Khasmiris being raped or killed by Indians, he said the words Genocide right ? and so on which is I believe is not true as International community will know if such case really happen. IK look like has Gazha E Hind mindset according to me with him keep talking about that

Sorry if I hurt many IK supporters here, but this is my opinion and I dont have any bad intention for Pakistan

 

[Tamerlane]

Any person who posts online has to assume that the authorities know who you are and what you said. It applies to the authorities of whichever country you live in or the authorities of any country interested in you. Anyone who think they're antonymous is stupid.

 

[RayKalm]

For me, I see IK is pretty dangerous for Pakistan as I consider him lying about thousands Khasmiris being raped or killed by Indians, he said the world Genocide right ? and so on which is I believe is not true as International community will know if that is such case really happen. IK look like has Gazha E Hind mindset according to me with keep talking about that

Sorry if I hurt many IK supporters here, but this is my opinion and I dont have any bad intention for Pakistan

You are clueless on Imran. Please, next time, do not write on something you do not know of without first gaining knowledge.

 

[AFlover]

The problem is all overseas Pakistanis here have connections to their families back in their homeland
So no one will be willing to take this responsibility.
Other solution is to give the ownership of PDF to non-Pakistani members but then this will not remain PDF

So just close down the Pakistani political sections and limit this forum for some monthes to only technical discussions specially in Pakistani related developments.

I have been associated with this forum for over a decade. It’s a very important source of information and knowledge especially defense and military related topics . There are positive and negatives things that we come across here also when we dive into political issues but I think Yes! free speech should have some guidelines not to provoke anyone and to be civilized when having any opposite opinions.
I never want this platform to be ever closed again.
May ALLAH keep protected everyone here.

 

[teX]

I will probably close this forum again. If someone would like to take control of the forum feel free to do so. I will not be able to run this while i have my family in Pakistan. Just because of the nature of the forum and how fast posts come in, there is no way for us to delete things automatically.

True. Do what you have to do bro...

Its not protected hence the closure. You are responsible for what you post.

Hopefully, we will be free one day...

 

[Zibago]

Nope, before you were all pro military

When IK is ousted, you guys started attacking Military.

For me, I see IK is pretty dangerous for Pakistan as I consider him lying about thousands Khasmiris being raped or killed by Indians, he said the words Genocide right ? and so on which is I believe is not true as International community will know if such case really happen. IK look like has Gazha E Hind mindset according to me with him keep talking about that

Sorry if I hurt many IK supporters here, but this is my opinion and I dont have any bad intention for Pakistan

We were pro Pakistan and we were pro military because we were pro Pakistan

Indians did kill dozens of Kashmiris and the state was in lockdown for months and there still are clashes between freedom fighters and the Indian state apparatus in IOK

IK stayed neutral on the conflict in Ukraine (which isnt our business and we should not supply arms to Ukraine) and he was punished for it

The problem is that he had a very strong connection with the people of Pakistan which they cant break so they have gone full North Korea to create a society in the image they see fit (which we disagree with) and going against that image leads to torture, abduction and even death

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Any person who posts online has to assume that the authorities know who you are and what you said. It applies to the authorities of whichever country you live in or the authorities of any country interested in you. Anyone who think they're antonymous is stupid.

@WebMaster should not be liable for simply hosting a platform and cannot be deemed responsible for what people online post. It's actually very counter intuitive for those that cannot be named, but then again they were never known for their intelligence in the first place.

That's why I believe closing the Pakistani political sub-section indefineitly is a solution and all staff of the website should not engage in any political discussions whatsoever. It's not fair that @WebMaster should be taking the blame for this and also be losing out on revenue because of bullying tactics.

 

[Hyde]

My suggestion is to close the forum for now

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir, we can discuss political issues in a civil manner. Because every war and every major incident in the world is caused by the failure of a political solution. We can do a comparison of arms and army , but the thoughts are always free and independent .... if I am right?

Of course you are right. However, I feel there are too many people with fixed points of view to discuss political issues in a calm manner. For instance, on Indian politics, my views are very sharply etched out, and are unlikely to change at core (there already has been some modification at the edges).

I was not referring to Pakistan-India political issues in that passage, but agree wholly that such issues can be discussed, but with inhibitions.

A free discussion needs to be planned carefully.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

My suggestion is to close the forum for now

Delete this thread and close Pakistani Political subsection. Then watch how the issue sorts itself out in 2 weeks time.

 

[hatehs]

Nope, before you were all pro military

When IK is ousted, you guys started attacking Military.

For me, I see IK is pretty dangerous for Pakistan as I consider him lying about thousands Khasmiris being raped or killed by Indians, he said the words Genocide right ? and so on which is I believe is not true as International community will know if such case really happen. IK look like has Gazha E Hind mindset according to me with him keep talking about that

Sorry if I hurt many IK supporters here, but this is my opinion and I dont have any bad intention for Pakistan

No Pakistanis have always had mixed views on the military. When Imran in power, the idea was that since the military is showing signs that they will work with the civilian government to better the country, we'll give them a chance and avoid needlessly creating trouble and insecurity by clashing with them. After the military removed Imran and imposed unpopular and hated politicians on the country, there was no point working with them.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not realy, Even our Turkish member MMM-E, maybe did not use insults, but called the Pakistani state and army backward in certain way..
These kinds of things might not have been considered a problem before, but now we are on edge.

What I was hinting at is that it is true that there are now on board Indian members with a great deal of hostility towards all thinings Pakistan.

 

[TheSolution]

Nope, before you were all pro military

When IK is ousted, you guys started attacking Military.

For me, I see IK is pretty dangerous for Pakistan as I consider him lying about thousands Khasmiris being raped or killed by Indians, he said the words Genocide right ? and so on which is I believe is not true as International community will know if such case really happen. IK look like has Gazha E Hind mindset according to me with him keep talking about that

Sorry if I hurt many IK supporters here, but this is my opinion and I dont have any bad intention for Pakistan

He wasn't lying about Kashmir though. There is indeed a less intense genocide going on, obviously not at the level of Gaza.

 

[Joe Shearer]

We were pro Pakistan and we were pro military because we were pro Pakistan

Indians did kill dozens of Kashmiris and the state was in lockdown for months and there still are clashes between freedom fighters and the Indian state apparatus in IOK

IK stayed neutral on the conflict in Ukraine (which isnt our business and we should not supply arms to Ukraine) and he was punished for it

The problem is that he had a very strong connection with the people of Pakistan which they cant break so they have gone full North Korea to create a society in the image they see fit (which we disagree with) and going against that image leads to torture, abduction and even death

We can talk about it.

The trouble is that we cannot talk about it here.

He wasn't lying about Kashmir though. There is indeed a less intense genocide going on, obviously not at the level of Gaza.

I don't agree. Many Indians don't agree, and they are not bhakts, or Modi/BJP/RSS supporters. Again, we can talk about this, but probably not here.