FC-1 (JF-17) powered by WS-13 engine carries Taxi Trials

[rohailmalhi]

Please explain little further,
where this will be built. ?

it is going to be constructed near nawabshah

Business and Economy - PAF Aeronautical Complex near Nawabshah: 571 acres of land documents handed over to AVM Arshad

 

[My-Analogous]

You can also say, the Su 30s of IAF have a better reliability record than PAFs F 16 with only 2 crashes, whereas 8 F16s crashed in the same timeframe:

PAF have faced embargo and during that time and PAF done very well

 

[ANG]

Hi, are you sure the time frame is the exact same, 1998+? The PAF got their first F-16s in 1982 and they would have significantly aged by 1998, when the Su-30s were starting to get inducted. Moreover they were embargoed from August 1990 onwards. Take care.

 

[Bossman]

PAF never had 8 F16 crashes. One was a fraticide during combat with the Russians. One hit a wildboar while taking off. A few were canabilized during the embargo. There are rumours of one ending up in China. At the max, there were 1 or 2 crashes due to technical or pilot error issues.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

damn, tell me about the wild bore incident.....never heard bout it

 

[abaseen99]

According to Chinese media ,FC-1 (local Chinese name for JF-17) has recently carried out successful taxi trials powered by a Chinese made WS-13 engine ,currently first batch of 40 aircraft which will be supplied to Pakistan are powered by Russian Klimov RD-93B turbofans, while WS-13 has 10% greater thrust but is also having Quality issues with the turbine blades . Next batch of JF-17 which will be build in Pakistan will have this Chinese engine and same will be offered to export market , Chinese are already working on an improved engine which again will have further thrust

 

[Bossman]

damn, tell me about the wild bore incident.....never heard bout it

Happened at Sargodha. Came on the the runway as the F16 was on its final roll for takeoff. The pilot ejected at zero altitude and was safe. After the incident the base went on sort of a controlled rampage, guns and side arms of every imaginable calibre were brought out and all wildboars within the base and in its vicinity were eliminated.

 

[SQ8]

Happened at Sargodha. Came on the the runway as the F16 was on its final roll for takeoff. The pilot ejected at zero altitude and was safe. After the incident the base went on sort of a controlled rampage, guns and side arms of every imaginable calibre were brought out and all wildboars within the base and in its vicinity were eliminated.

Wish they would do the same to E-9.. got a scare at a friends place night with Mr &Mrs Boar.. with extended family roaming around towards road.

 

[abaseen99]

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

too bad i missed out.....never hunted bore before

nothing a 12 gauge slug can't handle. I do remember a couple years back an F-7 went down due to bird strike.

Boar strike is a whole other thing. From what i know, Sargodha is famous for its ample supply of wild boars.

I think building a fence and some good hunting will be more cost effective than losing another $20-30m dollars aircraft

 

[VCheng]

Happened at Sargodha. Came on the the runway as the F16 was on its final roll for takeoff. The pilot ejected at zero altitude and was safe. After the incident the base went on sort of a controlled rampage, guns and side arms of every imaginable calibre were brought out and all wildboars within the base and in its vicinity were eliminated.

It also made an almighty bang that woke up the city too!

There were a lot of BBQs after that incident for the American staff stationed there at the time.

 

[abaseen99]

Turbofan engines
Designation Thrust Used by Remarks
Shenyang WS-5 Cancelled
Shenyang WS-6 J-9, J-13, Q-6 canceled Cancelled [8]
Shenyang WS-6A Cancelled
Shanghai WS-8 Y-10 canceled Cancelled [9]
Xian WS-9 Qinling 91.2kN JH-7 Licensed version of Rolls-Royce Spey RB.168 Mk 202
Xian Qinling-2 9,325+kg Improved version of the WS-9; comparable to the French SNECMA M53-P2
Shenyang WS-10A Taihang 13,200kg J-10, J-11 Indigenous T/W: 7.5 replacement for AL-31 and AL-31F; possibly used to power new J-XX fighters [10]
Shenyang WS-10G Taihang 15,810kg J-XX Modified Taihang with T/W: 9, possibly used to power new J-XX fighters [11]
WS-11 JL-8 Licensed version of the Ivchenko-Progress AI-25TLK
WS-12 Taishan Canceled
WS-12B Taishan JH-7B Heavier, improved WS-12
Guizhou WS-13 Taishan 86.37kN JF-17 Indigenous T/W: 7.8 upgrade for RD-93
WS-13 upgrade 100kN JF-17 Upgraded Taishan with 100kN thrust in development [12]
Shenyang WS-15 18,350kg J-XX Described by Russian sources as the "18-ton" thrust, T/W: 9-10 project possibly used to power new J-XX fighters. [13]
WS-18 H-6K Developed as a replacement for the D-30K2 [14]

 

[abaseen99]

WS 13

 

[graphican]

Turbofan engines
Designation Thrust Used by Remarks
Shenyang WS-5 Cancelled
Shenyang WS-6 J-9, J-13, Q-6 canceled Cancelled [8]
Shenyang WS-6A Cancelled
Shanghai WS-8 Y-10 canceled Cancelled [9]
Xian WS-9 Qinling 91.2kN JH-7 Licensed version of Rolls-Royce Spey RB.168 Mk 202
Xian Qinling-2 9,325+kg Improved version of the WS-9; comparable to the French SNECMA M53-P2
Shenyang WS-10A Taihang 13,200kg J-10, J-11 Indigenous T/W: 7.5 replacement for AL-31 and AL-31F; possibly used to power new J-XX fighters [10]
Shenyang WS-10G Taihang 15,810kg J-XX Modified Taihang with T/W: 9, possibly used to power new J-XX fighters [11]
WS-11 JL-8 Licensed version of the Ivchenko-Progress AI-25TLK
WS-12 Taishan Canceled
WS-12B Taishan JH-7B Heavier, improved WS-12
Guizhou WS-13 Taishan 86.37kN JF-17 Indigenous T/W: 7.8 upgrade for RD-93
WS-13 upgrade 100kN JF-17 Upgraded Taishan with 100kN thrust in development [12]
Shenyang WS-15 18,350kg J-XX Described by Russian sources as the "18-ton" thrust, T/W: 9-10 project possibly used to power new J-XX fighters. [13]
WS-18 H-6K Developed as a replacement for the D-30K2 [14]

Wao... if realized, we won't need to think about more F-16s ever again!!!

 

[MastanKhan]

After the incident the base went on sort of a controlled rampage, guns and side arms of every imaginable calibre were brought out and all wildboars within the base and in its vicinity were eliminated.[/QUOTE]



Hi,

Not to add insult to injury---but a typical reaction from my brethren----.

The guns should have come out and the base commander executed for negligence of duty---.

The running of wild boar across the runway was a common practise by the wild boars of sargodha----the base commander knew about the warnings beforehand---all the airt force staff in pak air force knew about the issue---.

A wire fence was reccomended alongwith the killing of the wild boars----but no---Allah Malik----nothing happens---sh-it happens---.

What an air force---gosh if it was a base commander at a russian air force base----he would have been in front of the firing squad and family sent to siberia---.